deran... would you please define haze in ten words or less
serial stacked 4 way hybrid , se asian, south indian, mexican and columbian
not possible bc of recombination
is the same as me saying there is inscense in something I may have hunted down in a 9 or 14 week plant...
defining a strain only by a aroma trait, is like saying all blondes are dumb
add ice in my coke, is my coke not coke?
no its not, its vanilla ice coke (insert flavor of choice), or if its water ice, then its a dilluated coke
You have any pictures of your ohz outdoor.
makes no sense at 45°
but nobody has these plants in circulation any more, so we need the next best thing...
so you have proof of that statement, meaning you visited all growers on this globe to verify ? and no, we dont need the next best thing, blue mauritius stamp - if destroyed - will stay that 4ever, by choosing the next best thing you neglect those you didnt expirienced, thats ignorant, and not suiting you, you know it better
Media hype... you are funny mate... the people growing ganja dont grow anything longer then 9 weeks, ask Greenhouse and see their seed sales. And then you got us, a real small part of the big picture that actually care.
dont judge others by your values
I mean why would you be here if you have already found your grail. Just to make those that dont have original hz look like dummies...
thats simple, i need to prosper and i might miss something, im not making them looking like dummies, they do it already without me, im just correcting false stated half - truths, half truth - nice oxymoron, aint it
I also think that you have not grown enough newer genetics to see that one can find early hz
so of the initial 4 corner stones, that would be a mexican leaning pheno? do you mean that, or do you mean a early strain crossed with another haze hybrid, like NH for example ?
to be honest, most newer genetics i tried (between 50 and 100 strains), most were not worth to remember and a waste of time, like the 90s kali mist or ssh - never understood that hype nowadays
If we can find 16 week phenos why can there not be a fast one
simple, because all thats today left of those 4 corner stones, takes that mentioned time, its not like with NH, were you can find a nl dom pheno, rdy in 9 weeks, bc haze was a annually stacked serial hybrid
But concerning the determination of a particular haze hybrid leaning to A or C, it is not that difficult if one has grown a Haze A or Haze C hybrid with only one othe two present...5Hz, G13/Hz or Afghan Haze (all Haze C hybrids)...and if your really lucky grown the 5 hzA, or G13/hzA. If you get an extreme sat leaning version of one of those you can observe many of the individual haze characteristics (especially if you grow a decent number of seeds). Then if you grow something like NH or MH with A and C present, you then have the difficulty of determining the influence of either unless you've grown them separately.
again , without the initial separate parents, we can only speculate about the progeny, i.e. cross a kush flavor with a skunk flavor and dont get a nordle flavor, get a haze flavor, happens too often, most think that traits , especially aromas, transfer,but thats not always the case with aromas, any parfum designer will second that, take 2 different smells, and get something completely different to those 2, which isnt in any kind related to those 2
Now, take that experience and couple it with the knowledge of haze A and haze C from Nevil, Shanti and YoSammy and it becomes quite easy to pick out Haze A or Haze C LEANING phenotypes. All it takes is a little careful observation.
again, without parents, those are just words for me

im stubborn
But yes, the ultimate point is that MNS only sells Haze hybrids.
thats more than ok to me, as those are properly named, and i would be the first to enjoy something fast flowering which delivers whats promised, but in those 25 years with those plants there is this factor called empiricism and thats the hardest part about all things concerning haze