The Great Cheese Deception

[british_hempire]

Sensi Seeds Skunk #1 I should have written, Sensi Skunk is a different strain.

Come to the next uk hemp expo, you can meet the original grower and some of the people from exodus and hear the truth from the actual people who were there...

that's the saddest part of all, the people who were there and were responsble for the events and plants we talk about are still around, not hard to track down or speak to, in fact, many of them are online and could be contacted, we're talking about recent events here not something that happened a generation ago like Haze...

 

[kashrocks]

Who really cares about Cheese ???

Ok it is a good Sk#1 but c'mon there is way much better on the market...

Peace.

K.

 

[wonkadonk]

Indeed, certainly nothing to get worked up over.

 

[dr Rockster]

Dr Rockster has no sense of integrity, honesty, or anything else.... he was here to spam like he did elsewhere.....

he goes on about the med scene etc... there is hardly one in the UK.... if he is all about sharing and caring he shouldn't be charging for those seeds



he was asked lots of times to explain himself and he simply couldn't... he was going to get a proffesor to tell us how it all happened but that never happened either....

he has been banned from just about everywhere for this nosense... he is the worst sort of person for any so called community.

Kaliman Seeds - Home of the Exodus Cheese in Seed Form

seems his distribution centre is a 2 bed flat in Ruislip...

and if you thought this was a nice friendly place, think on....

I mean the fuckwit didn't even test the seeds out, he just spammed them and got them out for 65 friggin quid.. yeah he cares alright he cares for $$$$$

another prob I had with this was I asked Rockster about the offspring were he said Males showed therefore Y is present.. how can that be from an xx plant.. I could of understood it stressing to show balls etc but it still would of produced xx pollen so where did the Y come from ? its called marketing and spam to sell that is all.....

here is what the shister originally said

Thankyou the fates for bringing Unclepeter to me.

I don't know if you are into safe sex Unclepeter but rest assured I'll be steri-gloved up as I dissect your pathetic fact free hate filled ignorant rant, ok, ya with me so far?

And be advised, it's going to be messy.

I'm having a good time with friends right now but be advised that on the morrow every single lying bullshit point you have made will be met by me in fair and tempered measure and I'll show all at Mr Nice what a little lying fact free fucktard you are.

Till the morrow, you liar.

 

[Unclepeter]

Thankyou the fates for bringing Unclepeter to me.

I don't know if you are into safe sex Unclepeter but rest assured I'll be steri-gloved up as I dissect your pathetic fact free hate filled ignorant rant, ok, ya with me so far?

And be advised, it's going to be messy.

I'm having a good time with friends right now but be advised that on the morrow every single lying bullshit point you have made will be met by me in fair and tempered measure and I'll show all at Mr Nice what a little lying fact free fucktard you are.

Till the morrow, you liar.

The only fact I'm concerned with is the presence of the Y... and this here reply of yours... yes you state you have given free seed away etc... maybe marketing.. .hmmmm you also forget to mention to budding grower that you were in fact going to sell the wares... anyway have a nice night!

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"So you're giving the seeds away? Thats very honourable of you, I apologise on behalf of everyone who thought you were just spamming your seed line looking to profit for a project you spent a few man hours on.

Leets opinion is appreciated but is it not a little bias seeing as your friends?"
Yeah,I've given well over a hundred packets away and loads just at the last Manchester hempfair and have never sold a single seed in my life.

l33t biased because of friendship? Of course bias is possible because of friendship and maybe therefore possible vested interests, yes but its not the case.

l33t has no interest bigging up anything for me, all he said was my cheese tastes just like the clone original, simply a true statement.

Going back to that Manchester Hempfair and me giving away seeds (there were no seed vendors AT ALL,just equipment and nutes) I got a right good feeding frenzy going, lol!

At the time I gave them away as untested S1's, femmed beans, as I thought this clone that went all boy on me (and I started a separate thread querying it as soon as it occurred,I was just scratching my head, like wtf?) would give rise to femmed beans, I mean, what else could it?

But it didn't and that was even more puzzling? The progeny was an absolutely normal male/female population. There was no chance of any pollen pollution,only had the Exodus clone going, I was pulled and quizzed on that straight off but no, what happened, happened, just as reported.

I've spoken to one other person who reported this exact same thing happening with a bunch of clones going into flower, one grew out as a normal male but I don't think he used the pollen but did report this strange occurrence.

actually i will pull up some of your posts...

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Thx do you have any papers applying to plants and not killifish? I should point out its about exceptional XX males not XY if I've read it right. thats not what has happened here so swivel. or again are you changing tact and now saying its not XY?
Sorry mate you are right and I stand corrected, I thought this related to plants,please forgive my shoddy reading.

I just jumped on the "even in established sex determining systems spontaneous sex reversal can occur due to mutations"

I've seen other stuff relating to plants and this was to be the first of some links on the subject,I'll see what I can dig up.

Again, many thanks for the correction, I do wanna keep this real.

odd ya called me mate then... hmmmmmm now that came about from the last attempt to put me in place I think.....

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Aw'right Riz

cheers for the words of support bruv and here's an abstract from the Genetics Society of America which is about "common spontaneous sex reversed XX males of the Medaka Oryzias Latipes"

To cut to the chase, go to first paragraph: 'Genetic mechanisms...' and please read: "In some studied cases, EVEN in established sex determining systems, new sex chromosomes can appear due to mutation and invade the population"

To anybody that doubts my claim but has been polite and enquiring I would say
this does seem reinforce my claim, to others less polite, read it and go swivel on it.

http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/163/1/245

now previously you said...

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You are not out of line but merely arguing from ignorance my friend,I've got true Cheese in seed form and I'm getting a little tired of the doubters having a pop whilst not having grown or tried it.

It is NOT hybridised, NOT feminised but derived solely from the original Exodus Cheese cut and is in a normal male/female population

Google spontaneous sexual reversal in plants hempy and then see if you can come back at me in the same way, sure the genes are 100% Skunk#1 but through a freak of nature a supposed spontaneous mutation occurred and 'The Cheese' was born in 1989 but being a clone and hybrid could not be bred into seed form, not until I had this lucky chance occurrence, a female clone grew up as a boy when put into flower.

I know this sounds wack but it does happen in nature and across many species of plants which means in evolutionary terms plants started doing this a long time ago. The mother plant was also exposed to very low dose STS from some overspray from some Cheese clones I was treating for the feminisation process and this may have been the cause, I really don't know?

I've written to a prominent geneticist at an American university about this spontaneous reversal(it's not a mutation) and am waiting for a reply from him and will keep you posted.

I just sit here own my own sometimes(with a nice very flavoursome joint of my Cheese on the go) and think.....................f*ck, I've cracked it..............and yes, it does give me a warm fuzzy feeling all over, lol!

So your man dressed as a woman comment I respectfully ask you to take back hempy, then go to the interwebs and educate yourself then come back and apologise for jumping to erroneous and slightly offensive conclusions and then we can play nicely again hempy ok?

peace

Rockster

so did they get back to you at all?

 

[dr Rockster]

The only fact I'm concerned with is the presence of the Y... and this here reply of yours... yes you state you have given free seed away etc... maybe marketing.. .hmmmm you also forget to mention to budding grower that you were in fact going to sell the wares... anyway have a nice night!

I'd advise you to bathe and wear purple underwear on the morrow.

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[mriko]

Greetings dr Rockster,

Could you tell me, about the Quattro Cheese pack, are all beans from the 4 strains all mixed together in the pack, or are they separated so one can choose which version to grow ?


Irie !

 

[Unclepeter]

I'd advise you to bathe and wear purple underwear on the morrow.

YouTube - ‪Dr Cox - Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong‬‏

ok,

your doing it for all the right reasons and not jumping on a bandwagon... opps seems ya are!

Rockster
04-11-2011, 01:41 PM
Hi HomeTNGrown and thanks for the kind words mate.

Well if you've got some I do so hope they turn out well for you and will be to your liking.

Well femmed seed production is a must for the European market as vendors report between 70-90% of all seed sales are for femmed seed so have to jump on the bandwagon and am starting by reversing the original Exodus clone as well as the suicide cut which is an unhybridised variant of the original as it seems there are 4 types knocking about all derived from the same 1989 UK Exodus original mom but having gone through various hands and growroom conditions over the last 23 years have 'evolved' a bit differently to each other.

Many report the Exodus doesn't produce pollen when reversed but now we have Dr Greenthumb and Franco at Greedhouse, sorry, Greenhouse, who say they have done it so I am sure it's doable?

It's my Cheese#1 that really wants reversing but that is next after this run.

Many thanks to anybody that has bought our seeds and can report you have gotten us off to a good start, Kaliman Seeds is most definitely a going concern and has enabled me to forge links with the Prague medical community who are providing growing space for me which will in turn generate funds for their projects as they need funds badly so it's some thing I'm very happy to be hopefully involved with.

who are they? anyone know?

seems some one called kali man doesn't like ya either

Looking For Regular Cheese Seeds - UK420

 

[british_hempire]

Something about the way rockster posts with such nastiness that makes me think he's a really offensive fellow in real life too, just gives me this really distasteful feeling to read how nasty the imagery he uses in his posts is, just makes me shudder...

In all honesty, I would want to find out more about his work if he wasn't such an offensive character, I really wouldn't want to meet this bloke because he sounds so nasty.

I was planning to go to Prague in November for the Hemp Fest, I'll be giving it a miss if rockster's going to be there ingratiating himself with the locals, I like to avoid people who give me a shudder...

 

[Rizladon]

i have met rockster on a few occasions now BH and i can honestly say, hand on heart, he is a great person.
my first run in with rockster was when i put up a thread about a friend on another forum, my friend was suffering badly with his chemotherapy sessions for his stomach cancer. He was having trouble eating, sleeping and generally feeling like shit, the weight was dropping away from him rapidly and he was deteriorating before our eyes. Rockster saw the thread and sent me a pm offering some help, now please bear in mind that i had never spoken to rockster before this (i had read his threads though) after sorting rockster out with an addy for my friend he sent a few ounce down for him for gratis! now this is not the actions of a cunt in my book, he did not know me or Darren, he wanted nothing in return, he just wanted to help. just ponder that for a moment....



unfortunately my friend, Darren has since passed away as he lost his battle with cancer late last year. After this show of kindness it was a logical progression for a friendship to develop between rockster and myself and it is a friendship i cherish as i know if i ever needed help he would be there and the same on my part if rockster ever needed my help i would be there no questions asked.


Right back to the thread................................
I have a pic for you jesse, this "cheese" looks alot like the plant you are claiming to be the real deal Exodus clone, only thing is this is not uk cheese, it is from seed but you will have to admit that the colour, structure and resin coat all look identical to the pic you are claiming is the uk cheese (a point i disagree on, but lets leave that there) this is a pheno of rocksters cheese #1 from seed i think there are "cheese-ier" looking phenos in his seeds but definately see a similarity to the manicured plant pic you have put up.

catch you all later,
Riz.

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

i have met rockster on a few occasions now BH and i can honestly say, hand on heart, he is a great person.
my first run in with rockster was when i put up a thread about a friend on another forum, my friend was suffering badly with his chemotherapy sessions for his stomach cancer. He was having trouble eating, sleeping and generally feeling like shit, the weight was dropping away from him rapidly and he was deteriorating before our eyes. Rockster saw the thread and sent me a pm offering some help, now please bear in mind that i had never spoken to rockster before this (i had read his threads though) after sorting rockster out with an addy for my friend he sent a few ounce down for him for gratis! now this is not the actions of a cunt in my book, he did not know me or Darren, he wanted nothing in return, he just wanted to help. just ponder that for a moment....



unfortunately my friend, Darren has since passed away as he lost his battle with cancer late last year. After this show of kindness it was a logical progression for a friendship to develop between rockster and myself and it is a friendship i cherish as i know if i ever needed help he would be there and the same on my part if rockster ever needed my help i would be there no questions asked.


Right back to the thread................................
I have a pic for you jesse, this "cheese" looks alot like the plant you are claiming to be the real deal Exodus clone, only thing is this is not uk cheese, it is from seed but you will have to admit that the colour, structure and resin coat all look identical to the pic you are claiming is the uk cheese (a point i disagree on, but lets leave that there) this is a pheno of rocksters cheese #1 from seed i think there are "cheese-ier" looking phenos in his seeds but definately see a similarity to the manicured plant pic you have put up.

catch you all later,
Riz.

if this is true rockster can be my friend.
people who care are a missing breed.
And liar's should dig a hole and grow a knew batch,the last batch was worthless.

 

[dr Rockster]

Greetings dr Rockster,

Could you tell me, about the Quattro Cheese pack, are all beans from the 4 strains all mixed together in the pack, or are they separated so one can choose which version to grow ?


Irie !

Hi mriko,

I'm afraid they are mixed, we really should have made packaging to keep them separate though and the next lot we produce and pack will have 4 separate compartments within one package.

But I'm kinda breaking forum rules even talking about this to you as I joined Mr Nice Forum as a regular member but have since started Kaliman Seeds and only post here to counter the outrageous and ignorant slings and arrows fired at my character and all because I make a very specific claim that others have found to be totally true and yet others here wallow in hate and total ignorance of the facts.

It's getting tiresome, Cheese#1 is totally proven, just talk to anybody that has grown it out?

My shoulder has been almost dislocated from hearty backslaps delivered with a " ya cracked it my son!" type comments and for me to occasionally drop in here and see this unmitigated hate filled ignorant shit being spat out about me
is beyond the pale.

Certain players banging on who certainly won't let cold hard facts get in the way of their hate.....it's just........not nice and lowers the tone of the place, they are shitting in their own lounge and fuck em!

 

[dr Rockster]

Something about the way rockster posts with such nastiness that makes me think he's a really offensive fellow in real life too, just gives me this really distasteful feeling to read how nasty the imagery he uses in his posts is, just makes me shudder...

In all honesty, I would want to find out more about his work if he wasn't such an offensive character, I really wouldn't want to meet this bloke because he sounds so nasty.

I was planning to go to Prague in November for the Hemp Fest, I'll be giving it a miss if rockster's going to be there ingratiating himself with the locals, I like to avoid people who give me a shudder...

"on noez, the big bad Rockster might be at the Hemp fest so I ain't going!"

Don't be so bloody precious, away and grow a spine!

 

[british_hempire]

Hiya Riz

Thanks for sharing, that doesn't sound like a cunt at all, as you say.

Rockster would do himself a big favour if he didn't use such disturbing language in his posts, I mean, it gave me a bad impression reading them.

Just saying how it seemed to me, the caveat being I haven't met him.

 

[british_hempire]

"on noez, the big bad Rockster might be at the Hemp fest so I ain't going!"

Don't be so bloody precious, away and grow a spine!

You see, that's precisely the sort of nastiness that makes me not want to meet you.

No spine needed here, I just don't want to have to tell you to go away to your face in front of friends of mine if you speak to me as offensively as you do online.

Point being, if I'm somewhere like Prague I'm there to enjoy myself, have a holiday and chill with my friends, I certainly wouldn't appreciate having to deal with annoying people with offensive mouths.

You're your own worst enemy with your love of being nasty to people and your ego about 'having cracked it'.

Even Nevil questioned your male and you were nasty to him too, so don't blame me if I tend to think you're a dodgy character for reacting that way all the time, it's not proper behaviour.

 

[kashrocks]

I just don't want to have to tell you to fuck off to your face in front of friends of mine if you speak to me as offensively as you do online..

Here we go again...

I thought Shanti had been clear in his post yesterday

Can't you just stop profering insults ???

You should better continue to edit the insults you posted in the Canna Community thread as there are still of a lot of them there than creating new conflicts in other threads...

Peace.

K.

 

[Unclepeter]

I guess its no new undies for me... went commando today too!

 

[dr Rockster]

You see, that's precisely the sort of nastiness that makes me not want to meet you.

No spine needed here, I just don't want to have to tell you to go away to your face in front of friends of mine if you speak to me as offensively as you do online.

Point being, if I'm somewhere like Prague I'm there to enjoy myself, have a holiday and chill with my friends, I certainly wouldn't appreciate having to deal with annoying people with offensive mouths.

You're your own worst enemy with your love of being nasty to people and your ego about 'having cracked it'.

Even Nevil questioned your male and you were nasty to him too, so don't blame me if I tend to think you're a dodgy character for reacting that way all the time, it's not proper behaviour.

Even Nevil? How crawly bum lick is that?

Listen up, you've dogged me about my genetics whilst saying you aren't into the cheese so you've been a troll fuck from the start and if you don't like the mouth on me good, I'm glad I've offended you as you as you are an internet scumbag who has tried to diss me and call me a liar whilst having no evidence whatever to make your claim

So listen up, I'm not a liar and all the noise coming out of your porcine bloated waste of carbon and 3 dimensional space can't make me out to be one, ya dig?

So don't be a priggish little tosser seemingly upset by by a few swear words so away and grow a spine and a pair.

 

[dr Rockster]

You see, that's precisely the sort of nastiness that makes me not want to meet you.

No spine needed here, I just don't want to have to tell you to go away to your face in front of friends of mine if you speak to me as offensively as you do online.

Point being, if I'm somewhere like Prague I'm there to enjoy myself, have a holiday and chill with my friends, I certainly wouldn't appreciate having to deal with annoying people with offensive mouths.

You're your own worst enemy with your love of being nasty to people and your ego about 'having cracked it'.

Even Nevil questioned your male and you were nasty to him too, so don't blame me if I tend to think you're a dodgy character for reacting that way all the time, it's not proper behaviour.

I have no love of being nasty to people, that is your fallacious strawman in your description of me but I'll be very forthright when dealing with the likes of you who are ignorant troll fucks who say to others I am a liar and that is not an adhominen but merely a personal observation.

Just listen to yourself, you talk of 'my ego' in having cracked it, well, yes, I am rather chuffed I've got the clone into seed form, I mean, who wouldn't be?

I've got the genetics...........and what have you got, apart from high cholesterol?

 

[british_hempire]

Thanks for those two posts, you just proved my point about what a nasty arrogant person you like to portray online.

Congrats on your inbred skunk, aka bullshit#1.

Feel free to pm me if you wish to hurl further insults, better than doing it in public then I can say what I really feel.