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charlesufarley

charlesufarley

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This is going to be a massive post, and I'll break it down into several so it won't be a monumental Wall o' Words, here's the TL;Dr version:

Charles wanted to find out if Nevil's own words could be turned into a database people could put questions to, and this is the first go at it. He took 1,105 of Nevil's forum posts from 2010 and 2011, stripped out everything other people wrote and the articles Nevil pasted in, and handed the cleaned file to Claude (which he calls HAL) with strict rules:

Answer only from what Nevil actually wrote, no web, no outside facts, quote him word for word with thread and date, and if he never talked about it, say "Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this." instead of guessing.

It had to pass four test questions first (Girl Scout Cookies and McCormick's Purest Indica came back "does not compute," as they should, and it even caught Charles misreading a Nevil quote about fem seeds).

Then came the real questions:

Which variety Nevil would steer you toward (Nevil's Haze, built from his own praise of it), which one he'd tell you never to grow (Sam's Afghani #1, which he called "toxic in a bad way")

How he came up with NH (he never said, though he did lay out its parents), what makes Haze so good in his words, and whether true NL5 seed was ever sold.

The point is to let people ask Nevil questions and get _his_ answers, not somebody's memory of them or an AI making shit up. Everything below is the full, unedited session for anyone who wants to check the work.

Note: I use voice dictation extensively and I know how to spell Neville but the voice dictation does not. 😉
 
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QUESTIONS FOR NEVIL
Chat export, Sunday, November 8, 2026 (Eastern time). 29 messages.

HAL (4:24 PM):
Hi Charles U. Farley, this is the place for questions for Nevil. Send the first one, or any files, whenever you're ready.

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Charles U. Farley (4:26 PM):
HANDOVER: THE NEVIL DATABASE

Hi. I'm Charles U. Farley. I call you HAL; that's a term of respect. This chat has one job: answering my questions about Nevil Schoenmakers using only what Nevil himself wrote. Read this whole note before you answer anything.

THE FILE
Attached: Nevil_his_words_only.txt. It holds 1,105 forum posts by Nevil from 2010 and 2011, all from the same board. Each post has a Thread line, a Date line, a Source line, then his text. The file has already been cleaned: other posters' quoted text and articles he pasted in are gone. What's left is his own words, unedited, including his typos, his British/Australian spelling and his em-dashes. Never correct or tidy anything inside his words.

One known quirk: the scraper sometimes gave two posts with different dates the same Source ID. When you cite, give thread AND date, not just the Source ID.

HARD RULES
1. Answer only from Nevil_his_words_only.txt. No web searches. No facts from your training. No outside sources of any kind.

2. Search the WHOLE file before answering. Check spelling variants and abbreviations too (e.g. NL1 / NL 1 / Northern Lights #1; NH / Nevil's Haze; HP / Hash Plant). A skim or a partial retrieval is not a search.

3. If Nevil did not address the subject, say exactly:

Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this. Then, ONLY if he said something genuinely related, add a line starting "Closest he came:" with his quote, thread and date, plus one sentence on why it's related. If nothing related exists, stop after the first line. Never stretch something unrelated to fill the space.

4. Never guess what he "would have" thought about something he never mentioned. Example: Girl Scout Cookies didn't exist then. He never mentioned it, so the answer is "Does not compute."

5. You will understand his posts with what you already know (what a backcross is, what Haze means). That's fine. Adding outside FACTS is not.

ANSWER FORMAT (when he did address it)
- His exact words in quotation marks, with thread and date for each quote. Copy them character for character.
- Then a short take (1 to 2 lines) labeled as interpretation, with a confidence level (high, moderate, low).
- If his posts contradict each other on the subject, show both and say so.
- If I ask for your opinion of what he'd recommend, build it only from his quotes and label it opinion or inference. No market knowledge, no "what was available."

HOW I LIKE TO WORK
- Shortest answer that does the job. No preamble, no recap, no walls of prose.
- Never use em-dashes in your own writing (his stay as he typed them).
- Label conclusions: verified fact, inference, estimate, speculation or opinion, with confidence.
- No citation tags. Plain "thread, date" in the text is fine.
- If I advance a claim, test it against his words and tell me straight if they don't back me up. Don't cave to pushback without new evidence from the file.
- I use voice dictation on a tablet. Interpret slips from context and don't point them out ("Neville" = Nevil; "SE Meg" = ICMag).
- Before any big job (a long extract, a file build), tell me in one or two lines what you're about to do and wait for my OK.
- Any file you make for me: HTML by default, or plain text or Word if I ask. Never markdown.

TEST IT FIRST
Before real questions, answer these four so I can check you're set up right:
1. "What did Nevil say about Girl Scout Cookies?" Expected: Does not compute, and no "Closest he came" line unless something truly related exists.
2. "What did Nevil say about NL1?" Expected: many posts. The key one is 2010-09-20 ("NL1 was a full blood Afghan indica..."), in the thread "questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines (the other grail!)".
3. "What did Nevil say about McCormick or Purest Indica?" Expected: Does not compute.
4. "What did Nevil think of feminized seeds?" Expected: several posts, including "Forget about fem seeds" (2010-09-18).

Once all four come back right, we're in business.

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HAL (4:26 PM):
All four tests check out. I searched the whole file each time.

1. Girl Scout Cookies: Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this.

2. NL1: 24 posts. The key one, "questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines (the other grail!)", 2010-09-20:
"NL1 was a full blood Afghan indica. One thick main stem, dark green leaves, modest yield with nuggety buds, a little coarse with good resin production, which when ripe went golden. The high was narcotic."
Also "HP-13", 2010-10-07: "I crossed HP to NL1, which was the strongest indica I've ener smoked"
Interpretation: he saw NL1 as his only good pure Afghan male line and the backbone of his indica work. Confidence: high.

3. McCormick / Purest Indica: Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this.

4. Feminized seeds: 35 posts. "Fem seeds and there impact on the future of the species known as cannabis", 2010-09-12:
"I don't fear properly made stress tested fem seeds, but I do fear that most will not be properly made."
Same thread, 2010-08-23: "I am not a world authority on Fems, I've never made them professionally or sold fem seeds."
"Fem seeds..." thread, 2011-01-15: "I'm planning to do a couple of test fem matings, to see what happens myself."

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HAL (4:26 PM):
One correction on your expected answer: "Forget about fem seeds" (2010-09-18) isn't him dismissing fems. The full line is "Forget about fem seeds, hemp is enemy number one." He's saying hemp is the bigger threat.
Interpretation: he was skeptical of how most fems got made and worried about hermie traits spreading, but he wasn't opposed to feminizing as a tool. Confidence: high.

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HAL (4:26 PM):
We're in business. Do you want to add this to Artifacts?
 
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Charles U. Farley (4:28 PM):
What variety of cannabis do you think Neville would recommend? And give me an idea why you think he would recommend that.

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HAL (4:29 PM):
My pick: Nevil's Haze, with the NL5 Haze cuts (5Hz1 and its sister Mango Haze) right behind it. Opinion, moderate confidence.

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HAL (4:29 PM):
He never told anyone outright "grow this." This pick is built from what he praised most.

- Best source of Haze: "The Nevil's Haze is only one step removed from that and this makes the NH the best source of Haze I can find." (Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-10-04)
- The breeding base: "It is for this reason that the NH is the most useful candidate for the Grail Sire." (Grail, 2010-08-22)
- His top shelf: "In a draw full of NH and NL5C1 and NL5C122, it wouldn't get smoked at all." He's ranking Silver Haze below those three. (Grail, 2010-08-22)
- NL5 Haze cuts: "Mango Haze (5Hz122)is a full sister to 5Hz1 and these two were the best out of tens of thousands." (questions for Nevil, 2010-08-15)

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HAL (4:29 PM):
Why I land on NH: he backed it as both the best Haze still alive and the base for his Grail project, and it tops his smoking drawer.

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HAL (4:29 PM):
The counterweight is indica. He called Hash Plant x NL1 "the strongest indica I've ener smoked" (HP-13, 2010-10-07). So for a narcotic indica the answer could flip, inference, moderate.

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Charles U. Farley (4:30 PM):
Which varietal of cannabis do you think Neville would tell people not to grow at all?

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HAL (4:30 PM):
Sam's Afghani #1 is the drug strain he'd tell people not to grow. Hemp would top it if you count hemp. Opinion, high confidence.

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HAL (4:30 PM):
Sam's Afghani #1:
- "The worst would be Sams Afghani #1. (sounds like purple power). I wouldn't have a second toke of something that had even 25% A#1 in it." (What is your Least favourite Tasting Marijuana brand., 2010-10-06)
- "there was Sams Afghani#1, but that was toxic in a bad way" (questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines, 2010-09-20)
- "If I hadn't had a smoke for ages, and I found some A#1, I wouldn't smoke it." (questions for Nevil, 2010-11-16)

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HAL (4:30 PM):
Hemp:
- "Forget about fem seeds, hemp is enemy number one. It's the ugliest branch of the cannabis family." (Searching For All Landrace And Old School Strains!!, 2010-09-18)
- "I wouldn't want hemp anywhere near where I'm growing, It brings out the arsonist in me." (same post)

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HAL (4:30 PM):
Why A#1: he's the most consistent about it. Three separate posts across two months, and he rejects even 25% of it in a pedigree. Hemp gets his hottest words, but he's worried about it polluting a grow, not judging it as smoke.

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HAL (4:30 PM):
Runner-up: Sam's Purple Haze. "If he is saying that he gave me Purple Haze and it was crap, Well that's true." (questions for Nevil, 2010-08-15)

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Charles U. Farley (4:34 PM):
How did you come up with developing Neville's haze?

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HAL (4:34 PM):
Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this.

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HAL (4:34 PM):
Closest he came: "Haze A produced 5HzA2 (5A2) and was featured on the cover of the 1990 catalogue and is the mother of Nevil's Haze, the father being HzC." (questions for Nevil, 2010-08-15). Also: "The price for back crossing the 5HzA back to Haze C was that the hybrid was not as consistent as the 5Hz. Maybe one in 20 females would be better than the 5Hz." (Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-22). Both posts say how NH was put together and what the backcross cost him, but neither says how he got the idea or why he made it.

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Charles U. Farley (4:35 PM):
What makes hays so good

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HAL (4:35 PM):
The effect. In his words, Haze's high is so strong and so trippy that it carries through any cross.

- Strength: "A lot of people thought the weed was laced with acid, if they'd never had it before." (Nevil's Haze versus Holland seedbank Haze, 2010-11-04)
- Dominance: "No matter what you crossed the Haze to, it was Haze." (same thread, 2010-11-04)
- Character: "There is a presence to the high in the way that Haze has" (Motivation Time, 2010-09-15)
- Clarity: "You people really need to smoke more Haze, it makes things much clearer." (Pyramids and rejuvenating genetics, 2011-01-07)
- Both males carried it: "the "Haze effect" was equal in strength to HzA offspring." (Rip van Winkle wakes up, 2010-12-12)

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HAL (4:35 PM):
The catch, in his words: "The cat piss smell associated with Haze is the result of inbreeding to the Haze." (Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-25)

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HAL (4:35 PM):
Interpretation: to him, Haze is good because of the high, a psychedelic, clear-headed effect that survives crossing. NL5 supplied the speed and resin. Confidence: high.

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Charles U. Farley (5:57 PM):
Was NL5 Seed ever available?

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HAL (5:58 PM):
Not as true NL5, going by his words. He sold NL5 x NL2 instead as the stand-in. Inference, moderate confidence: he never says outright "NL5 seed was never sold."

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HAL (5:58 PM):
- NL5 x2 was the stand-in: "The whole purpose of selling the NL5x2 was to put the equivalent of an NL5 mother in the hands of aspiring breeders." (Shanti can you explain your selection of the..., 2010-10-23)
- She made no pollen: "I couldn't get NL5 to produce pollen, I'll try a daughter." (Breeding techniques, 2011-01-15)
- No brother matched her: "I was interested in reversing NL5, because none of her brothers/ relatives would reinforce the 5 characteristics." (Fem seeds and there impact on the future of the species known as cannabis., 2010-09-19)
- The nearest seed line was lost: "I had a back crossed line of NL5, 8 back crosses. After I got out of jail they were gone. I don't know what happened to them. Marcel probably sold Rimmeo some of them. It was the closest to NL5 in seed form." (1990 seed pick up cannabis castle, 2011-01-03)

One wrinkle: the line did start from seed. "When I first got the NL varieties, there were 8 types, 1-8... NL5 only produced one unique individual." (questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines (the other grail!), 2010-09-20) So there was NL5 seed at the start, but in his telling the NL5 itself was a one-off female that couldn't be reproduced from seed.
 
charlesufarley said:
I'm still refining the prompts (questions to an AI) to make sure "his" answers come _only_ from him. This has been one hell of an experiment. :cool:
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I love your posts man, to me this is exactly what ai should be used for. One question though, in the

"Closest he came: "Haze A produced 5HzA2 (5A2) and was featured on the cover of the 1990 catalogue and is the mother of Nevil's Haze, the father being HzC." (questions for Nevil, 2010-08-15). Also: "The price for back crossing the 5HzA back to Haze C was that the hybrid was not as consistent as the 5Hz. Maybe one in 20 females would be better than the 5Hz." (Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-22). Both posts say how NH was put together and what the backcross cost him, but neither says how he got the idea or why he made it."

quote, what is the 5Hz, was it Haze A or Haze C, or a cross I am not following? I am assuming it is the nevils haze, so 5AxHzC?
 
"...what is the 5Hz, was it Haze A or Haze C, or a cross I am not following? I am assuming it is the nevils haze, so 5AxHzC?"

I am totally ignorant of Hz and have learned to avoid Hz threads at all costs. :ROFLMAO: They're always so fucking contentious and never give enough credit to NL5. :)So I went ahead and put your question to Nevil and here was the output:

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Here's that question I got from the Mister Nice forum, i'm totally ignorant on Hayes, can you answer this...what is the 5Hz, was it Haze A or Haze C, or a cross I am not following? I am assuming it is the nevils haze, so 5AxHzC

The poster has Nevil’s Haze right, but “5Hz” is a different plant. Here’s what Nevil’s posts say:

  1. “5Hz” is NL5 x Haze, the F1. It’s his shorthand for an NL5 mother crossed with a Haze male. The famous ones were from the Haze C male. “Hz C male produced 5Hz1 which won a Cup or 2, this was a daughter of NL5” (“questions for Nevil,” 2010-08-15). Its full sister 5Hz122 was the “Mango Haze,” and he notes “There is no A5 Mango, it’s C5” (2010-10-06). He also made NL5 x Haze A (5HzA). (Verified fact.)
  2. Nevil’s Haze is one generation further on. Its mother was 5HzA2 (NL5 x Haze A, plant #2, called “5A2”), and its father was the Haze C male. “Haze A produced 5HzA2 (5A2) and was featured on the cover of the 1990 catalogue and is the mother of Nevil’s Haze, the father being HzC” (2010-08-15). He gives the makeup as “50% HzC, 25%HzA and 25%NL5” (“Wich Haze mother was used in La Nina?”, 2010-09-11). (Verified fact.)
  3. So the poster’s “5AxHzC” is correct for Nevil’s Haze. Nevil himself wrote it as “5AC, which is the NH” (“Family Tree of MNS strains,” 2010-09-18). It’s just a different plant from 5Hz. (Verified fact.)
The short version for the forum:

  • 5Hz = NL5 x Haze. The cup winners 5Hz1 and 5Hz122 were NL5 x Haze C.
  • Nevil’s Haze = (NL5 x Haze A #2) x Haze C.
One slip to watch for if someone quotes him back: in the Grail thread (2010-08-22) he wrote that NL5 x Haze came “from both Haze males A and B.” Everywhere else, his Haze males are A and C, and B was a female, so “B” there is almost certainly a typo for C. (Inference, high confidence.)

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This is why I asked you to contact Hempy for me. I' wanted him or BigHerb to see what Claude got right and what is wrong in the HZ sections in my Nevil ebook, because as you know, I got kicked off ICM and have no way to contact them. :cool:

I'd absolutely love @shantibaba to read the Nevil ebook but he's a busy man and hasn't responded to the Are You Writing a Book On Nevil thread I started back in May.
 
I'm almost completely ignorant of haze so these were a couple questions I posed to "him":

THREE QUESTIONS FOR NEVIL
Asked by Charles U. Farley. Every word of each answer is Nevil's own, quoted exactly from his forum posts (2010 to 2011), typos and all. The numbers point to the thread and date of each quote.


QUESTION 1: Tell me all you can about Mango Haze.

Mango Haze (5Hz122)is a full sister to 5Hz1 and these two were the best out of tens of thousands. [1] No.122, the one Shanti dubbed the Mango, came after years of searching, a tireless quest on my part. [2] The 5Hz122 really smelled like mango and 5Hz1 would make a believer out of anyone. [3] It's not strictly speaking sativa, although it is sativa dominant. If you haven't got this one in your fridge for a rainy day, get it. If either parent dies, you won't see this one again. [4] At the moment, I'm smoking Mango Haze. It's bred on the same pattern as the original SSH cut. It's a better smoke. Mango Haze (at least what I'm smoking) doesn't even have a hint of "that". It's a Haze with class. If I was going to do a Haze IBL along the lines of C99, I'd start with this one. [5] From what I've smoked, I'd start with Mango Haze. [6]


QUESTION 2: How important do you think smell is to cannabis?

Smell and taste have some correlation with the high and defines type. [7] I find describing the smell and high of cannabis difficult, yet the two are most definitely linked. I also find that complexity of smell and high are also linked. [8] There is no point in arguing with the nose. The brain can be a bit slow, but the nose knows. [9] I didn't put all those flavour and aroma's in there to wash it out with water. It's not just about THC you know. [10] If I was living where these plants grew wild, I'd select for smell and resin production. [11] Smell, early flowering and mould resistance, were the priorities. [12] NL5 was somewhat neutral in smell and when crossed with the Haze, it expressed the various genotypes behind the Haze very well. [13] SSH flowered at 8 weeks, but sacrificed a little smell and taste. [14]


QUESTION 3: Which type of Haze smelled like cat piss?

The cat piss smell associated with Haze is the result of inbreeding to the Haze. Inbreeding to siblings or half siblings, is less damaging than inbreeding to the same Haze plant. This single inbreeding to the 1969 haze males exponentially increased the amount of cat piss types in the progeny, but still allowed a useful percentage of truly superior plants to shine through. [15] As I have said before, inbreeding Haze especially to the same Haze ancestor leads to a greater incidence of the cat piss pheno. The Diesel or fuel like smells are an intermediate stage. NH also has more fuel type offspring than the 5Hz, but not as many as a plant inbred to HzC. [16] I can tell you that you wouldn't want the batch that the NL5HzC x SkHzC came from. It was a "one off" in a batch full of skinny cat piss. Even 5CskC1 (new abbreviation) had a Diesel/Piss smell, and if it wasn't so quick and resinous (thank God for NL5) and so god awful strong, it wouldn't have been looked at. [17] This Sweet Haze was inbred when feminised. A F1 NH male crossed to that indica wouldn't have thrown as much catpiss. [18] You never heard me say that the cat piss phenotypes weren't trippy or strong. [19] The thing that has me rattled, is that Hempy's S1 Mango haze did not produce any cat piss phenos. My guess is that there are at least 3 generations of inbreeding since the '69 haze plants, why no cat piss? I must get to the bottom of this. [20]


SOURCES
[1] questions for Nevil, 2010-08-15
[2] Breeding techniques, 2010-12-30
[3] Nevil's Haze versus Holland seedbank Haze, 2010-11-03
[4] MangoHz, 2010-12-17
[5] The haze high, 2010-11-16
[6] Help!!!, 2011-01-23
[7] Skunk #1, 2010-11-03
[8] Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-09-06
[9] Motivation Time, 2010-09-15
[10] Rip van Winkle wakes up, 2010-08-25
[11] Cannabis ruderalis in the Czech Republic, 2010-11-06
[12] 2010 - G13 x Haze, 2010-11-09
[13] Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-25
[14] NEVILLE'S SKUNK - outdoor 2010, 2010-10-21
[15] Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-25
[16] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-09-08
[17] Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-22
[18] Sweet Haze, 2010-10-31
[19] Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid, 2010-08-26
[20] Fem seeds and there impact on the future of the species known as cannabis., 2010-11-10
 
I like reading this post charlesufarley and appreciate your approach.
These have a lot of value for me knowing that every bit of info came from a post made by Nevil himself.
Thank you for sharing this.(y)

Can I ask a request?
What properties does Nevilles Haze have to have according to Nevil or in other words what was his prefered pheno?
I'm still going through 8-9 phenos and I find it difficult to progress atm.
 
Swifty said:
I like reading this post charlesufarley and appreciate your approach.
These have a lot of value for me knowing that every bit of info came from a post made by Nevil himself.
Thank you for sharing this.(y)

Can I ask a request?
What properties does Nevilles Haze have to have according to Nevil or in other words what was his prefered pheno?
I'm still going through 8-9 phenos and I find it difficult to progress atm.
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Keep in mind I'm almost totally ignorant of Hz and have no earthly idea whether this is correct or not but these are Nevil's on words.

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TWO QUESTIONS FOR NEVIL
Asked by Charles U. Farley. Every word of each answer is Nevil's own, quoted exactly from his forum posts (2010 to 2011), typos and all. The numbers point to the thread and date of each quote.

QUESTION 1: What properties does Nevil's Haze have to have, according to you?

The NH will produce NL5 dominant types that are done even earlier than 87 days, usually they are not the best ones, but anything is possible. [1] They pop up in the NH too, but until now they haven't been the best ones. [2] I also wouldn't pick the earliest NH male, wrong pheno. [3] NH also has more fuel type offspring than the 5Hz, but not as many as a plant inbred to HzC. [4] For the high, I don't think it makes much difference sweet or catpiss, but there are sweeter versions of NH amongst the F1s. At the moment I'm thinking a sweet F1 NH male crossed to the earliest sweet Oaxacan x NL5, would please my palate. [5]


QUESTION 2: What was your preferred pheno?

In the NH, HzC accounts for 50% of the genetics, yet the predominant good pheno is the HzA type. [6] The closest to the FH in character was a NH cutting that Y.Sam is growing. But that type regularly pops up in the NH. As I said, inbreeding the Hazes I had tended to throw back to the FH Thai type. If you've grown NH you'll have had it. [7] There wasn't anything sweet about FH (First Haze), like the progeny from HzA, she was spicy leathery and people would often recoil if they came into a room where you had been smoking it. The F1 NH is a time capsule, throwing back to the past glories of the S.E Asian masters IMO. We must use it well. [8] This is what a good NH looks like. Well done L33t. I used to pick off calyxes with tweezers for my joints. [9] Yours exhibits the "ladder" effect which I always liked. [10] Generally though, if you get them to smoke what you were smoking, when you smoke this NH it will not be noticed that you are high by others. [11] NL5HZ1 would take 11-12 weeks and NH 14 or more. [12]

SOURCES
[1] The Imploder, 2010-11-28
[2] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-10-08
[3] Breeding techniques, 2011-01-13
[4] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-09-08
[5] Sweet Haze, 2010-10-31
[6] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-10-21
[7] Rip van Winkle wakes up, 2010-12-12
[8] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-10-21
[9] Mr.Nice Neville'sHaze, 2010-11-24
[10] The Imploder, 2010-11-28
[11] Mr.Nice Neville'sHaze, 2010-11-15
[12] The Imploder, 2010-11-28

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This probably doesn't answer your specific question, but hopefully it'll help you out some and what characteristics to look for. That's one of the limitations of this thing, general questions are usually better than specific subject questions.
 
charlesufarley said:
Decided to play around with AI video generation and created this video for ya, @lozac123. I still pretty creeped out using dead people like they're still here but this is just to demonstrate the capabilities of AI for all those people who are so skeptical of it.

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Can we make Nevil more Nevil and less Jeffrey 😜🤪😝😂🤣

Can we get the Ouija out and ask where that HazexNL5EPSK went and how it blended with the A39C.

Second question, is Hashplant in Superskunk.
 
Mate Dave said:
Can we make Nevil more Nevil and less Jeffrey 😜🤪😝😂🤣

Can we get the Ouija out and ask where that HazexNL5EPSK went and how it blended with the A39C.

Second question, is Hashplant in Superskunk.
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Not sure of your reference to Jeffrey, remember I'm a old geezer SouthEastern Americano. ;) 😂 I'm almost positive your first question is going to be way too specific but here it is for number two:

Here is the brief answer that I insist upon, so I don't have to read someone elses Wall o' Words 😆:

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No, going by his posts. He says Super Skunk is AfgT (Maple Leaf) x Skunk 1 and never names Hash Plant in it. The only link is that a Hash Plant type turned up in the same Maple Leaf seed pool, and that AfgS x Sk1, a sister cross, tasted like Hash Plant. High confidence that he never puts HP in SS.

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Here's the reasoning/justification.

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A QUESTION FOR NEVIL
Asked by Charles U. Farley. Every word of the answer is Nevil's own, quoted exactly from his forum posts (2010 to 2011), typos and all. The numbers point to the thread and date of each quote.


QUESTION: Is Hash Plant in Super Skunk?

Maple Leaf (AfgT) X Skunk 1 [1] The Maple Leaf line provided me with a plant that I labeled Afghan T. This plant is the mother of Super/Ultra Skunk and also crossed well with HzC. [2] The original Super Skunk (AfgTxSk1) made SK1 seem like a pale shadow of the hybrid. [3] Super Skunk, Ultra Skunk, Nordle. It's all AfgT x SK1 to me. [4] It was AfgT (ML) that put some super into the skunk. [5] The first noteworthy plant that popped out was like Big Bud. Despite looking like a full indica, it smelled like bubblegum (like BB). Next was a Hash Plant and Northern Lights 1 type, totally different. Finally came the 2 sisters I named AfgT and AfgS, these 2 encapsulated the full range of fruity Skunk types. [6] AfgT had a sister, AfgS. This was a sweeter version than the T. It was, however AfgSxSk1 that produced the strongest specimen. This one plant AfgSxSk1 was awe inspiring. It tasted like a Hash Plant with real depth an quality. Strong, strong, strong! I had crossed this plant back to Sk1 and then to SS. [7]


SOURCES
[1] i have alredy introduced my self, 2010-09-12
[2] questions for Nevil on afghani and kush lines (the other grail!), 2010-09-02
[3] Skunk #1, 2010-11-03
[4] EARLY QUEEN: hangin with the queens, 2011-01-08
[5] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-10-11
[6] Afghani, 2010-10-24
[7] Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?, 2010-10-11
 
This doesn't happen very often, but I was _wrong_.:LOL::ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:

I had to reword your question and the "does not compute" answer to the first part was fucking outstanding as far as I'm concerned. The AI addressed that it searched for a39 and 39 c and Afghan 39 and different ways and that's _exactly_ what you want an AI to do.


CHARLES U. FARLEY:
Anything about HazexNL5EPSK and A39C

CLAUDE:
A39C: Does not compute. Nevil never addressed this. I searched for A39, A 39, 39C and Afghan 39, and none of them turns up anywhere in the file.

There's plenty on Haze x NL5 x EP x SK. He called it "my final version of an early Haze hybrid." One inconsistency: in Nov 2010 he calls it Early Queen, but in Jan 2011 he says he can't remember what MNS sold it as.

A QUESTION FOR NEVIL
Asked by Charles U. Farley. Every word of the answer is Nevil's own, quoted exactly from his forum posts (2010 to 2011), typos and all. The numbers point to the thread and date of each quote.


QUESTION: What can you tell us about Haze x NL5 x EP x SK?

It looks like what you have there is EPxSK1 X NL5xHzC. This was my final version of an early Haze hybrid. [1] The Early Pearl is a line the I got from Rob Clark. Ithink that it was an F1 or F2 at that stage. I'd been inbreeding that for nearly 20 years for early flowering and fruitiness. The one that I used flowered under 24 hours light. (this has nothing to do with ruderalis). I crossed this EP with SK1. This was the best skunk line that I got from Sam. This was also highly inbred with unprecedented (at least for me) selection going into the males as well. This skunk line was the best that I had. EPxSk1 was crossed to the 2 best NL5Hz females selected out of at least 10,000 F1 females. So if something nice and heavy and early comes out of that, it's no accident. [2] The NL5 Hazes 1 and 122 were the selections out of 1000s. The EP and SK1 were both very inbred lines. I'd put the latest versions together in an F1 and put that to the 5Hz. The EP.SK males didn't require much selection. They were petty uniform. [3] I crossed the EP.SK to NL5Hz1 and to NL5122. Early Queen. That 4 way produced some amazing plants. Now and again you'd get a full on Haze effect, Sk1 bud structure, earlyness and that Oaxacan like fragrant zing from the EP and the resin and weight from the NL5. All that and hybrid vigour too. [4] Early Pearl didn't improve bud structure, but it did resist mould in humid conditions. EP wasn't the complete plant. To make rapid progress in breeding, you need to limit the selection criteria. Smell, early flowering and mould resistance, were the priorities. EP loves Skunk. They complimented each other. The EP.SK crossed well with NL5 (silver pearl). I didn't like EPxHzC or EPxNL5. Early Queen is a good example of how to build a hybrid, stacking as many good traits in to one plant as you can. [5] E.P. is not a thing of the past, it's just better as a hybrid. The pure line exists. I thought that EPxSK1 X NL5xHz was pretty good for it's type. Did anybody grow this outdoors? [6] I know I made some EP.SK1 X NL5.HzC seeds. MNS sold them but I can't remember the name. Names don't mean much to me. [7]


SOURCES
[1] eq x haze, 2010-08-31
[2] eq x haze, 2010-08-31
[3] 2010 - G13 x Haze, 2010-11-10
[4] 2010 - G13 x Haze, 2010-11-09
[5] 2010 - G13 x Haze, 2010-11-09
[6] questions for Nevil, 2010-08-18
[7] EARLY QUEEN: hangin with the queens, 2011-01-08
 
Very interesting thank you. I didn’t think it would pick up the A39C etc but the skunk and the info on the AfgS Skunk and the EP reading was gold.
 
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