The True Origins of Haze- BigHerb's Article

[sookieme]

Very true JessE. It's just so annoying that these bullies feel the need to behave in such a manner. But you're right, I shouldn't be wasting my time with them fools. I always surround myself with positive people.

Peace
GM1

lies lies and more lies

you bait and troll members constantly then like the little girl you are you cry "stop trolling me " as soon as anyone responds, even when thier response was good and acurate

go away little girl and take jesse with you im sure you two would have more fun playing with your barbies then being here hell you two prolly know a ton more about barbie dolls then you do cannabis

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

lies lies and more lies

you bait and troll members constantly then like the little girl you are you cry "stop trolling me " as soon as anyone responds, even when thier response was good and acurate

go away little girl and take jesse with you im sure you two would have more fun playing with your barbies then being here hell you two prolly know a ton more about barbie dolls then you do cannabis

sookie , even though i said this to you in person i will say it here so other may learn from it ,,,,

STOP replying to them , they have you right where they want you , falling into thier trap , they are baiting/trolling for a reason , and that reason being ,,,,,,,,

TO MESS UP BIGS THREAD AS MUCH AS THEY CAN BECAUSE HIS ARTICLE IS 10 TIMES BETTER AND MORE ACCURATE THEN JESSE'S WAS

they are succeeding in making a complete mess of this thread and laughing all the while they do so

sorry for everything big , maybe admini will find it in his heart to delete 90% of the posts in your thread saving it from this mess

peace

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

Hey big,

I'm sorry to hear about the recent loss in your family. A death in the family is always tough and it's extra hard around the holidays. You and your family have my condolences.

Ok, the rest of you guys can go back to fighting each other now. Sorry for the interruption.

HB.

 

[biteme]

another brain fart that keeps coming to me is just how does nyc play into the haze picture of today? i have been fortunate to have visited many of the great cities of the world as well as taste what delights each may have to offer and as much as i hate to admit it, none compare to nyc. many moons ago, my first tastes of haze came from the west coast, usa and for the most part, it was a dealer incentive to purchase the more commercial load that was for sale to the masses. other times, small amounts could be purchased at prices never heard of before and then the import biz fragmented and florida became a player and it was about this time when haze became rare.

and it is still rare for me to see it and yet there is one locale i am aware of where haze is commercially available-the big apple. i am not here to repeat lore from bigherb. news of this market comes from other online new yawkers. bigherb has talked of haze grown in ny but even he would admit that the climate would never support haze grown in commercial amounts. and yet a market thrives? and why in nyc? why not chicago or london or paris? there are many reasons which i will hold back for the moment. since 9/11, nyc has been under the world's microscope. and the answer to this haze query is evident if you look hard.

my little spiel here has little to do with the origins of haze except for the fact that an nyc connect may be nearly as old as the strain itself? outdoor versions have come from many locales to nyc over the years. the nyc haze connect would make an interesting story all by itself. peace-biteme

 

[cheesefucker]

Sorry to hear of your loss big herb mate. All the best CF

 

[coop]

another brain fart that keeps coming to me is just how does nyc play into the haze picture of today? i have been fortunate to have visited many of the great cities of the world as well as taste what delights each may have to offer and as much as i hate to admit it, none compare to nyc. many moons ago, my first tastes of haze came from the west coast, usa and for the most part, it was a dealer incentive to purchase the more commercial load that was for sale to the masses. other times, small amounts could be purchased at prices never heard of before and then the import biz fragmented and florida became a player and it was about this time when haze became rare.

and it is still rare for me to see it and yet there is one locale i am aware of where haze is commercially available-the big apple. i am not here to repeat lore from bigherb. news of this market comes from other online new yawkers. bigherb has talked of haze grown in ny but even he would admit that the climate would never support haze grown in commercial amounts. and yet a market thrives? and why in nyc? why not chicago or london or paris? there are many reasons which i will hold back for the moment. since 9/11, nyc has been under the world's microscope. and the answer to this haze query is evident if you look hard.

my little spiel here has little to do with the origins of haze except for the fact that an nyc connect may be nearly as old as the strain itself? outdoor versions have come from many locales to nyc over the years. the nyc haze connect would make an interesting story all by itself. peace-biteme

Haze is to the northeast what og and kush are to SoCal. Its just always the way its been. NYC has always been the destination for some of the best buds int he country as they will always go for top dollar. As bigherb suggested the haze grown back in the day was exported to nyc for that same reason.

I know dudes in the city and now all they smoke is haze oil at the tune of $80-100 a gram

 

[JetLife]

coop is not playing!

ive heard of 8000 dollar pounds of haze, and 700 dollar zones of sour d being eaten up in nyc! those nyc deivery services will hit ya for 20 a .5 i hear as well sometimes. hahahahaha.

nyc has some really awesome smoke... but the prices are insane.

i thought being down here in texas was bad after moving from california.... hahahaha.

 

[budkeeper]

Please Be Civil

No but keep pulling the crap you have been pulling for the last year or more along with your A-team members and i would bet you lot will be lol.


You lot need to focus on what matters that would be growing and keeping things factual and honest bet you cant do it.

Hempy,
I have been posting for a few months and read many good and informative posts by you. For this I thank you. I will soon be growing my La Nina in Hempy Buckets and again, thank you for sharing this with the canna community. You deserve recognition and a ton of respect for this.
With that being said, if someone asked me to describe this Hempy guy I would say: Hempy is has a memory like a steel trap (I believe you histories at face value) knows how to and has been around some incredible grows by all accounts. Loves sativas (as do I) and shares his growing techniques on an open forum.
Now, on recent forums Hempy has become the 'hey look at me' guy. Most Americans, especially Southerners know what this is. It's the guy doing a stunt like base jumping. As he gets a stiff breeze that sends him sailing out before the spectators he goes 'hey look at me!' As everyone turns their attention to him. A stiff wind pushes them right into the cliff face and they come crashing down. Hempy I am not an analyst, but recently you have been that guy. Try not to be that guy anymore. Real life tells me that these posters could just as easily get along with you as argue. Believe it or not, it is your call. You do contribute and will contribute. Right now you like to bicker. That is a fact.
The thing that all of us need to understand that some very cool folks at MNS have given us a place to express our ideas and share in all things marijuana, plus a few entertaining things on the side. Not just new growers or old growers or growers period. It can be anyone who cares to. It isn't up to me or you to decide who posts here, nor should it be. The threats you make as to who can participate in this forum are by all accounts hollow. MNS is a business and bitching hurts the company. They want civility and what you call honesty and truth are seen differently by others. If you know something and are unwilling to share that information, that is your call. I disagree but guess what? That's my call. Ain't nothing but a thang. Some histories are rewritten regularly. Haze and G13 among them. Great points to discuss, and your posts can be very civil (HHF response) and you sir do not need to be a non-contributing accuser. By acting this role you (or anyone doing it) deliberately brings about posters who will go on and on at the non-contributing level. It's like spraying herbicide on a plant. The thread, like the affected plant, withers up and dies. Is this what you want? I hope not. You are better than that.
Just thought I'd add that Eisenhower was in office when I was born. I would guess by your 1979 reference that I have a couple years on you. Not that it really matters. BH my apologies for the spiel. Hempy thanks again for all the right things you have done and at the risk of you getting angry I have to ask you this one question. If you continue being the MNS contrarian, would you consider removing the second part of your signature line statement? It would then be much more accurate.-bk

 

[Eugene]

sookie , even though i said this to you in person i will say it here so other may learn from it ,,,,

STOP replying to them , they have you right where they want you , falling into thier trap , they are baiting/trolling for a reason , and that reason being ,,,,,,,,

TO MESS UP BIGS THREAD AS MUCH AS THEY CAN BECAUSE HIS ARTICLE IS 10 TIMES BETTER AND MORE ACCURATE THEN JESSE'S WAS

they are succeeding in making a complete mess of this thread and laughing all the while they do so

sorry for everything big , maybe admini will find it in his heart to delete 90% of the posts in your thread saving it from this mess

peace

....yup. This is exactly correct. They must be family members to be able to continue on as they do in this thread. Very obvious what is being done.

Sounds like paranoid schizophrenia...unbalanced and untreated

 

[bigherb]

I dont know the solution ive tried it all ,ignore ,defend myself ,ask politely for civil convo an abit of respect .Im at a loss for the best attempt an becoming tired ,what was once a pleasures here are becoming somthing thats not enjoyable .

I find it sad an amzaing how anyone can waste soo much time on senseless negativity ,nothing in life surprises me .But i hope i will get a surprise one day soon an see a new policy an karma wind at MNS .



I appreciate all the positive input


Ive been very busy at work an id like to respond to a few post

Bucketbong

My first smoke of Thai Buddha stick

That was an intriguing an most enjoyable post .I really loved the story backround info an detail of your experience .This is what posting is all about

It seems that many ozzies are familiar with Thai buddah an that this INcense trait was quite common within that Thai line .

Donallad mallard

First smoke of thai

Thankyou for that sharing your experience ,it was like reliving a moment of one of my first times smoking .I can definetly relate to a similar experience


Im curious as to your experiences on taste /aromas with the first thai aswell as the golden


Be back soon


1luvbigherb

 

[farmergiles]

ok farmergiles, try and give a fuller description of this pressed product, if you will? the only similar product i have seen in the western hemisphere has never been indy dom and the simple fact that it has been pressed is due to the need to smuggle and therefore, it is a commercial variety of sorts. and what is the origin of this import? peace-biteme

I'll do my sorry best biteme.

Very dry.

Uniform mid grey green.

Few seeds. ~I tried to germ a couple but they were fairly dry and dead.

Buds not that fragrant.

Fairly distinctive smell and taste- not quite chocolate.

I've seen the same weed on occaisions over a decade in the UK and NL.

Poor weed imo, just too weak.

Maybe good to use as larf with some better weed, it's not unpleasant.

I would not say it is afghani. It is fairly mid ind/sat IMO.

I've never had the privilege of smoking the trippy Thais so I cannot tell you if this is similar.

IDK if this stuff is Thai at all but I think I know what Eggybread meant.

This weed is pretty irrelevant to this thread IMO.

fg

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

Hempy,
I have been posting for a few months and read many good and informative posts by you. For this I thank you. I will soon be growing my La Nina in Hempy Buckets and again, thank you for sharing this with the canna community. You deserve recognition and a ton of respect for this.
With that being said, if someone asked me to describe this Hempy guy I would say: Hempy is has a memory like a steel trap (I believe you histories at face value) knows how to and has been around some incredible grows by all accounts. Loves sativas (as do I) and shares his growing techniques on an open forum.
Now, on recent forums Hempy has become the 'hey look at me' guy. Most Americans, especially Southerners know what this is. It's the guy doing a stunt like base jumping. As he gets a stiff breeze that sends him sailing out before the spectators he goes 'hey look at me!' As everyone turns their attention to him. A stiff wind pushes them right into the cliff face and they come crashing down. Hempy I am not an analyst, but recently you have been that guy. Try not to be that guy anymore. Real life tells me that these posters could just as easily get along with you as argue. Believe it or not, it is your call. You do contribute and will contribute. Right now you like to bicker. That is a fact.
The thing that all of us need to understand that some very cool folks at MNS have given us a place to express our ideas and share in all things marijuana, plus a few entertaining things on the side. Not just new growers or old growers or growers period. It can be anyone who cares to. It isn't up to me or you to decide who posts here, nor should it be. The threats you make as to who can participate in this forum are by all accounts hollow. MNS is a business and bitching hurts the company. They want civility and what you call honesty and truth are seen differently by others. If you know something and are unwilling to share that information, that is your call. I disagree but guess what? That's my call. Ain't nothing but a thang. Some histories are rewritten regularly. Haze and G13 among them. Great points to discuss, and your posts can be very civil (HHF response) and you sir do not need to be a non-contributing accuser. By acting this role you (or anyone doing it) deliberately brings about posters who will go on and on at the non-contributing level. It's like spraying herbicide on a plant. The thread, like the affected plant, withers up and dies. Is this what you want? I hope not. You are better than that.
Just thought I'd add that Eisenhower was in office when I was born. I would guess by your 1979 reference that I have a couple years on you. Not that it really matters. BH my apologies for the spiel. Hempy thanks again for all the right things you have done and at the risk of you getting angry I have to ask you this one question. If you continue being the MNS contrarian, would you consider removing the second part of your signature line statement? It would then be much more accurate.-bk

problem is your mistaken about something ,,,

he has always been that look at me guy , he has always been a jerk and an abusive troll

that is why he has been banned from every single forum he has joined other then this one , some multiple times

 

[farmergiles]

Well then why bring it Bob jeez .

Tired you know .

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

Well then why bring it Bob jeez .

Tired you know .

its called sharing information , something a forum is for

it was to clarify that someone was not aware of the facts as they thought they were

why dont you shove it as im tired of your digs at me , your a troll plain and simple

have a nice day

 

[hempy]

Hempy,
I have been posting for a few months and read many good and informative posts by you. For this I thank you. I will soon be growing my La Nina in Hempy Buckets and again, thank you for sharing this with the canna community. You deserve recognition and a ton of respect for this.
With that being said, if someone asked me to describe this Hempy guy I would say: Hempy is has a memory like a steel trap (I believe you histories at face value) knows how to and has been around some incredible grows by all accounts. Loves sativas (as do I) and shares his growing techniques on an open forum.
Now, on recent forums Hempy has become the 'hey look at me' guy. Most Americans, especially Southerners know what this is. It's the guy doing a stunt like base jumping. As he gets a stiff breeze that sends him sailing out before the spectators he goes 'hey look at me!' As everyone turns their attention to him. A stiff wind pushes them right into the cliff face and they come crashing down. Hempy I am not an analyst, but recently you have been that guy. Try not to be that guy anymore. Real life tells me that these posters could just as easily get along with you as argue. Believe it or not, it is your call. You do contribute and will contribute. Right now you like to bicker. That is a fact.
The thing that all of us need to understand that some very cool folks at MNS have given us a place to express our ideas and share in all things marijuana, plus a few entertaining things on the side. Not just new growers or old growers or growers period. It can be anyone who cares to. It isn't up to me or you to decide who posts here, nor should it be. The threats you make as to who can participate in this forum are by all accounts hollow. MNS is a business and bitching hurts the company. They want civility and what you call honesty and truth are seen differently by others. If you know something and are unwilling to share that information, that is your call. I disagree but guess what? That's my call. Ain't nothing but a thang. Some histories are rewritten regularly. Haze and G13 among them. Great points to discuss, and your posts can be very civil (HHF response) and you sir do not need to be a non-contributing accuser. By acting this role you (or anyone doing it) deliberately brings about posters who will go on and on at the non-contributing level. It's like spraying herbicide on a plant. The thread, like the affected plant, withers up and dies. Is this what you want? I hope not. You are better than that.
Just thought I'd add that Eisenhower was in office when I was born. I would guess by your 1979 reference that I have a couple years on you. Not that it really matters. BH my apologies for the spiel. Hempy thanks again for all the right things you have done and at the risk of you getting angry I have to ask you this one question. If you continue being the MNS contrarian, would you consider removing the second part of your signature line statement? It would then be much more accurate.-bk

You know mate i am a little surprised at this post from you because you seam to have singled me out and yet over looked many valid points.

Why have you not singled out the trolls that attack me and other members.

The threads i had that they trashed years of work.

The outing of members by other members the threats made and bulling.

The spreading of misinformation to just name a few.

I only re posted because bucket posted and brang me into it yet again then after i posted to him again i am singled out by set members so you cant see this or are you not wanting to see this part.

Now i am a poser i cant believe you guys honestly are you all blind.

 

[JessE]

Originally Posted by budkeeper
Hempy,
I have been posting for a few months and read many good and informative posts by you. For this I thank you. I will soon be growing my La Nina in Hempy Buckets and again, thank you for sharing this with the canna community. You deserve recognition and a ton of respect for this.
With that being said, if someone asked me to describe this Hempy guy I would say: Hempy is has a memory like a steel trap (I believe you histories at face value) knows how to and has been around some incredible grows by all accounts. Loves sativas (as do I) and shares his growing techniques on an open forum.
Now, on recent forums Hempy has become the 'hey look at me' guy. Most Americans, especially Southerners know what this is. It's the guy doing a stunt like base jumping. As he gets a stiff breeze that sends him sailing out before the spectators he goes 'hey look at me!' As everyone turns their attention to him. A stiff wind pushes them right into the cliff face and they come crashing down. Hempy I am not an analyst, but recently you have been that guy. Try not to be that guy anymore. Real life tells me that these posters could just as easily get along with you as argue. Believe it or not, it is your call.

Thats funny budkeeper,
I seem to remember hempy leaving this thread alone, and having Bucketbong attack hempy out of the blue once again, as bucketbong was himself attacking ganja man 1.

Funny I do not see any mention of that from you, instead I see a long winded post skirting the truth while yourself, joining in with the other half dozen posters who stopped in to single hempy out for what exactly?

Defending himself against an unprovoked attack?

So you're now joining in with the other half dozen posters, to single out someone who was initially attacked yet had what do with the thread up until that recent point in time?

It looks to me like you're one of these weak, vagina ass posters who like to roam around in packs and send likes, and single those out who have already been bullied. You talk about being from the south, that is a damn shame, because most southerners are educated enough to actually read something before they open their mouths and comment.

So please do explain to me how hempy jumped into the wind, to show everyone he can fly by responding to someone once again singling him out. Something that has went on for nearly two years, while who has said or did what about it? Thats right, very few of you. And there is a nice healthy portion of the regular posters who attack hempy in packs, like wild animals, at any chance they get.

I personally think every last one of you who participate in the gang raping around here are likely weirdo's in the real world with no social skills. Some of you seem to think you can bully, harass and threaten people and you will suffer no consequences? Something which happens regularly around here, yet where are you to say anything bud keeper?

Yet you come in to lecture someone who is responding to being attacked? Be proud of yourself "southern boy." You're clearly a real man.

 

[BucketBong]

What happened to the ceasefire Hempy? As for your mate Jesse , the bloke is what I'd call a dog. The bloke doesnt even have the manners to respond to a pm I sent him that was an attempt at brokering peace. Last time I'll respond or read anything you two type here .

 

[BillyBadGrower]

please watch this vid, then think about ur behavour, then get a fcukin life, ppl are dieing in the world and ur acting like fcukin teenage girls

 

[budkeeper]

My Bad

hempy and JEssE,
You found me out. My post was obviously some kind of a devious ploy to stir the pot. I will now slink away from this post and only interact with like minded preverts. This is a forum guys not a competition. I have rarely seen supposed marijuana proponents so close minded and xenophobic. Hope you both enjoy wallowing in your self pity.
BH sorry for your family member's passing. I won't disturb this thread again.-bk

 

[hempy]

hempy and JEssE,
You found me out. My post was obviously some kind of a devious ploy to stir the pot. I will now slink away from this post and only interact with like minded preverts. This is a forum guys not a competition. I have rarely seen supposed marijuana proponents so close minded and xenophobic. Hope you both enjoy wallowing in your self pity.
BH sorry for your family member's passing. I won't disturb this thread again.-bk

You and many others in here love to single people out for no valid or credible reason and yet when they your target reacts at these attacks and slander you and the rest of the trolls cry out i have been wronged and an injustice has been committed.

Most of you dont add shit to this community or to the mantra of this site and or do you seek to better the experience to be had here for ether your selfs or the sites members as a whole and most of you only want and love to see is drama and its often at the expense of a few people you lot have singled out for 2 years.

Well heres the thing it is not going to happen any longer if you attack me i will come at you like a freight train its my god given right to defend my self from ass holes like your trolls.

My advice is go smoke something and get on with it that being discussing the cannabis plant growing cannabis and further educating your selfs on set topics.

If you keep attacking me i will come back smoke some mangohaze and not stop until i am banned or you lot are banned this shit stops and will stop one way or another dont take this as an idle threat it will be a big mistake.