QUOTE: 2009 investigation by L******
I am not here to talkshit about people,(
meaning he probably will) i dont want to be banned to write this story , i made this investigation , it's a personal point of view , completely subjective... i am not here to get
SOme
MAn down... Just want the TRUTH (really hard in thoses times and even more in a still illegal stuff like cannabis)
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All this amnesia story really began to annoy me, so i decide to think (yes it sometimes happens) and begin to investigate a little...
First of all, Soma said that the amnesia haze is a cross between a South East Asian crossed to an afghanni and a jamaican (high times, issue from october 2008)
NDLR, WE Skip lie 1 and 2 they don't have nothing to do with our topic.
The third lie is more in harmony with the thread cuz it concerns the amnesia haze.
Surprising that this amnesia haze which come from nowhere in a period where Soma looks like to have losed his freaky inventiveness, bahhh, yes cross every strains to the g13/haze male( from Neville, what a work Soma reflect a loose of speed...
But even so this amnesia is THE winner and it's pedigree has changed from south east asian crossed to an afghanni and a jamaican, to : laotian crossed to the Afghan/hawaaian male (from shantibaba, what a work soma )...
So you suppose well that i don't make this post only to break sugar on soma's back (french expression which means talkshitting) wiht uberknown facts
Hy-Pro have been gaining cup places with "Amnesia" since 1996/97
Ok I think we can confirm that Amnesia [Hy-Pro] is the real deal original Amnesia that grows about NL. Interesting to learn that it's an indica dom. strain that has been since exclusive to the underground /coffeeshop fraternity in Holland. This one has already been cloned and passed on for future keeping. the plant we've got is Pushtu to the rass,, with health and vigor to match.
Hy Pro are well established Dutch seedbreeders [sometimes sold as royal queen brand, maybe others] many people have not yet heard of, they produced, or are at least the people who marketed Amnesia, & have done for several years.
Somthing IS worrying me in this whole story, why did soma choose in 2003 to create a strain copying the name of a weed already known everywhere in holland and adding the word haze after (yes that makes sell but that doesn't explain everything) and claiming after that the cross come from a laotian x afghanni/hawaaian , especially when this hypro amnesia is winning cups since 1996
Esco said:
In the "Brabant"(near Zeeland) they have it to the growshop Groenvinger in Hoogerheide, it has the odor typically amnesia , the only problem is that it makes some indicas nuggets, so don't know where it comes from.
me said:
Mee too, i read that it exists a commercial clone of amnesia (not haze) which makes some hard indica nuggets well known in the south of holland with the great (too much) strong taste of amnesia, i must remember where i read that
It is almost confirmed in the next quote from Karma genetics (Happy brother )
Karma said:
This Amnesia is related to the Cup winning cut from Hy-Pro (South Holland). It is almost the same just got a very strong bubblegum smell during flower, And in my eyes gives a litle more punch, Its not soma's amnesia haze.
So we learn that the winning amnesia from Karma genetics is derived from the winning hypro cut since 1996, yes i grant u that we are really turning around in the actual breeding but it's already nice from karma to give us some additionals clues :yeahthats (THX to him)
Karma said:
The Hypro cut about 9 to 10 weeks.
The cut i run 10 to 11 weeks.
Karma said:
Hy-pro has been runnin there Amnesia for a long time. Many coffeeshops have used there cut for entry's. The Hy-pro amnesia cut is sold all over the south of holland for years.
Also to clearify i think the cut Core runs is also the same Amnesia cut as in the shops here in the south the HY-Pro cut.
The cut i run is just slighty different. (in my eyes just that little extra) It stretches even more then the Original Hy-pro cut. Yields are about the same, just more Bubblegum smell during flower, and a just litle more foxtail.
Amnesia is a eazy to grow not to long flowering super tasting herb with a real strong punch. Simply a winner.
Also for breeding she is great giving off here fatty cristals, making a dryer sativa strain very fatty.
I am looking forward to the test's with my Jack O Nesia cross. This is going to be a real Fatty eazy hazy sativa hybrid.
So all thoses texts make me think to one of a sentence which i said 5 months ago on this topic (it's just below ) Did soma take a uberknown cut and pollenised it with his G13/haze male ???
Me8monthsago said:
When we see that the amnesia HAZE was done at the exact same time that the popping of the loved g13/haze male , only survivor on 10 neville's seeds...
He maybe only dusted an ubberknown cut with his cherished male cut ?? That couldn't be improbable that a weed like amnesia haze countains some OH genpool ...
Some amnesia make me really think to a hazy background or maybe it's the laotian influence...
We have also remember that soma changed several times the "recipe" and that could explain various pheno on the web, good and really bad...
So to Conclude , in my country, it's really easy to buy some amnesia but it's expensive and you find A LOT of Pheno , but my goodness when i tried the Amnesia core (or the SSH Moppel
![Grinning squinting face :laughing: š](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f606.png)
) i directly found back this Amnesialicious taste , like in
Toermalijn , the PERFECT AMNESIA
But , even to that time , i said in my reports that my SSH smelled like a kind of amnesia, even shantibaba said it
SSH Shanti said:
A winner of multiple awards including 97,98 and 99 HTCC as well as it being called by other names in various different countries such as Amnesia haze, the Bomb etc
ME9monthsago said:
A dried Bud smells really spicy/Floral , when you grind it , the aroma which comes out is really powerfull withouth being sickly like a Diesel , When you light the joint and smoke the first toke , a Strong High invades you pretty quickly , The smoke is heavy withouth being totally unpleasant , The taste of the smoke is a mix of fuity/spicy/floral , It's a real pleasure to smoke this strain whatever the moment of the day , this pheno makes me think about a Amnesia Haze but not so Strong & Nauseating , I would say the High & the taste are more subtle too , Smoking that weed is a real pleasure...
I want also add that i tested 3 phenos of Amnesia hypro and the three samples smelled the amesia odor , some more diluted .... the boss of HyPro said to me , that the original amnesia is a Pure afghani crossed to a Neville Haze Male
So it's not so surprising that the amnesia haze is in fact some SSH cuz there are a lot of coffeeshops wich are selling Brillliant Haze, Diamond Haze(
Toermalijn), Amnesia haze and i have to admit that all thoses samples taste the SSH taste ... or a generic haze taste...
END OF QUOTE 2009 by L******
here is my(tetsuo) research to prove the
Toermalijn story. I personnaly confirm what it is said in this thread being myself at
Toermalijn around 1999/2000.
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