Sexual Maturity

[Xchus]

Hello,

I have a question regarding sexual maturity. As far as I know, sexual maturity will present eventually regardless of the photo-period, and the plant will express maturity by asymmetry in the inter-nodes, or alternating inter-nodes. I have also read that plants even if grown under a 12/12 photo-period from the beginning, they still need to reach maturity before they can start flowering.

I noticed in the different grows that in average Mango Haze show pre-flowers around week 4 and 5 and show asymmetry around week 8 and 9. At the same time, seed plants take around 14 to 16 weeks to harvest and clones take 8 to 10 weeks to harvest.

Questions (Assuming ideal conditions, e.g. no height limit)

1) Can sexual maturity explain why seed plants take longer to harvest compared to clones?

2) If the above is true, wouldn't a mature seed plant reach harvest at 8-10 weeks same as a clone?

3) Usually the stretch is less if the plant reaches maturity in its vegetative period, and I have read that plants after 2 months of vegging tend to stretch a lot less. Since MH reaches maturity at around 2 months time, Shouldn't we try to reach maturity before flipping to 12/12 to minimize stretch, maximize internodal density (e.g. from veg @18/6 or 20/4), and increase yield?

4) aren't cuts/clones better taken from a mature plant?

5) Isn't the end product better from a mature plant?

 

[Xchus]

My 3 Mango Haze plants started flowering at approximately week 8/9, just as I have researched. Now it is a matter of waiting and compare both seedplant and clone runs to determine actual flowering time. I still believe that indoors the plants should always finish flowering at approximately the same time after they reach sexual maturity.

 

[MJPassion]

I noticed in the different grows that in average Mango Haze show pre-flowers around week 4 and 5 and show asymmetry around week 8 and 9. At the same time, seed plants take around 14 to 16 weeks to harvest and clones take 8 to 10 weeks to harvest.

I find it's best, and as you mentioned, to mature plants previous to flowering them. IMO, you get better, faster flower formation resulting in a higher yield.

I've been following a couple other breeders (Kingdom Organic Seeds) and they recommend veging your plants to sexual maturity (60days minimum) previous to flowering them on every pack of seeds they make.

I've yet to germinate seeds under a reduced light cycle so have not had the opportunity to observe the different characteristics mentioned above. It's nice to see this type of information posted.

Thank You

 

[Lammy]

Hello,
I have a question regarding sexual maturity. As far as I know, sexual maturity will present eventually regardless of the photo-period, and the plant will express maturity by asymmetry in the inter-nodes, or alternating inter-nodes. I have also read that plants even if grown under a 12/12 photo-period from the beginning, they still need to reach maturity before they can start flowering.

I noticed in the different grows that in average Mango Haze show pre-flowers around week 4 and 5 and show asymmetry around week 8 and 9. At the same time, seed plants take around 14 to 16 weeks to harvest and clones take 8 to 10 weeks to harvest.

Questions (Assuming ideal conditions, e.g. no height limit)

1) Can sexual maturity explain why seed plants take longer to harvest compared to clones?

2) If the above is true, wouldn't a mature seed plant reach harvest at 8-10 weeks same as a clone?

3) Usually the stretch is less if the plant reaches maturity in its vegetative period, and I have read that plants after 2 months of vegging tend to stretch a lot less. Since MH reaches maturity at around 2 months time, Shouldn't we try to reach maturity before flipping to 12/12 to minimize stretch, maximize internodal density (e.g. from veg @18/6 or 20/4), and increase yield?

4) aren't cuts/clones better taken from a mature plant?

5) Isn't the end product better from a mature plant?

HI

I believe SEXUAL maturity is what happens at the end of the flowering cycle. But maybe not.

IMO
1&2=yes according to robert connell clark's marijuana botany
3=IDK
4= well taking clones works either way. I guess it depends on how much time you have and what you got going on as to which is better. If I was to flower out several clones of each plant I would want to take the clones while I was waiting for it to reach maturity to lessen the wait.

I think that's why they recommend to flower out clones because the cloning process eats up some of the time it takes to reach maturity.

5= I don't believe you could have the end product from an immature plant. I don't believe they'll flower without being mature like you say.


Overall I have to say that I agree with you. under ideal circumstances I would definitely want to veg the plant for a couple months.