Sadness & Anger

[spiritualyEnhanced]

I have the parents of both. parents recurent and seed for diffrent directions it could go but after I saw what it turned out to be I was stoked.I was locked up when it was out, and had no idea about its smell or taste exedra. I just ran with it, now people are taking my work. My inheretance money I was able to use to do the time consuming breeding that I choose instead of hydro and supper cropping. I started breeding cause few where like me...small time.
so you see this its mine It had nothing locked in like this untill I wore the genes for a few years. my friends say its like bullrider the first one. I took two diff gene pools with a 1 to 5 ratio that took work. I guess its my fault looking out for patients .. who knew they have friends that can do this. but like i said im small time but i have all original material it takes for all expressions this has so...
with all the stuff going on at uc davis with gene testing lets see what happens.
they say its bullrider so the shops take it as bullrider. then a shop got seeds last year and all this is happinin.

what is going on in the world today every one steals peoples stars!

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

wait let me upload some more .

living in the protection of my home in socal.

 

[SmokeOn]

I'm confused, I didn't fully understand your post. What I got was that you did some small scale breeding and came up with something that is similar to afghani bullrider, then someone stole the plants from you? And something about UC Davis testing it? For people who aren't clued in on your situation or scene it's really hard to follow.

What is the name of your strain? The plants look very nice. What is the lineage? Is it a hybrid, polyhybrid, a true breeding line?

 

[EnglishSpringerSpaniel]

I have the parents of both. parents recurent and seed for diffrent directions it could go but after I saw what it turned out to be I was stoked.

So you still have the parent plants, that's probably the most important thing. I gather from the post that you are a bit bummed out, but the glass is half-full as much as it is half-empty. Look on the bright side

I was locked up when it was out, and had no idea about its smell or taste exedra. I just ran with it, now people are taking my work.

This is where I start to get confused...so did you release the breed as a seedline via Seedbay or some other seed outlet? If you aren't a professional breeder or otherwise profiting from your seedline, what's the big deal if the genes you developed are being shared amongst the medical community? As a small-time breeder, I think I'd see that as more of a compliment than anything. Also, what do you mean by 'I was locked up when it was out', followed by 'I just ran with it'. Were you locked up when your seedline was released? Some clarification here would help a lot.

My inheretance money I was able to use to do the time consuming breeding that I choose instead of hydro and supper cropping. I started breeding cause few where like me...small time.

I'm not sure how hydro and supercropping somehow run counter to 'time-consuming breeding'. In fact, I'd think supercropping your females when you're breeding is probably a fine idea because you can produce more large flower sites and thus, more seeds. Also, I'm sure there is plenty of effective breeding being done exclusively via hydroponics. FWIW, most of the cannabis growing happening in the world probably qualifies as 'small time', so there are more people like you than you may think

so you see this its mine It had nothing locked in like this untill I wore the genes for a few years. my friends say its like bullrider the first one. I took two diff gene pools with a 1 to 5 ratio that took work.

Working a breed for a few years and exhausting your inheritance money seems to contradict the 'small time' classification you mentioned earlier.

I guess its my fault looking out for patients .. who knew they have friends that can do this. but like i said im small time but i have all original material it takes for all expressions this has so...
with all the stuff going on at uc davis with gene testing lets see what happens.
they say its bullrider so the shops take it as bullrider. then a shop got seeds last year and all this is happinin.

what is going on in the world today every one steals peoples stars!

Now this is going to throw you for a bit of a loop probably, but consider this: Your breed, that you worked for a few years, probably had a genetic starting point of....that's right, someone else's breed that they probably took years to develop as well. I'm still very curious as to how your breed got leaked into public circulation...wouldn't you have had to either give out seeds, or give out the female AND the male cutting you used to make them?

ESS

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

like i said

aaahhh ya, ya think.
my buckets full.
Its like budwieser buying out a micro brewer. and im not a pro im godly!... I was caged.
learn the important parts to breeding not just making seeds, frequncies and adjusting chromo's. then talk about knowing something cause im sure i wouldnt plant your offspring just by how you talk about breeding.
Do you bother learning your specimen?
On the last part dork I cured its hermie symptoms and changed the flavor hight ..... what have you done????

 

[sookieme]

Wow i just stubled across this and was like whaaaaaa??

I did'nt now what you were talking about, as im sure others don't either.

i don't think anyone was bashing you
,but asking what you are talking about.

"learn the important parts to breeding not just making seeds, frequncies and adjusting chromo's. then talk about knowing something cause im sure i wouldnt plant your offspring just by how you talk about breeding."

it doesnt take a rocket scientist to grow seeds and experiment. sorry just my two cents.

there are so many seed strains out there you have to be creating something really diffrent. sorry im babbling

 

[EnglishSpringerSpaniel]

aaahhh ya, ya think.
my buckets full.
Its like budwieser buying out a micro brewer. and im not a pro im godly!... I was caged.
learn the important parts to breeding not just making seeds, frequncies and adjusting chromo's. then talk about knowing something cause im sure i wouldnt plant your offspring just by how you talk about breeding.
Do you bother learning your specimen?
On the last part dork I cured its hermie symptoms and changed the flavor hight ..... what have you done????

Uh what? My basic point is that it's hard to understand what you're saying at all in your first post, and in the parts that I actually can derive some meaning from, a few details run contradictory to each other. This post didn't do much to make things clearer. Can you explain why supercropping is bad when it comes to making seed? Also, if you treasured your work on your breed so much, why did you ever give out anything but the finished product?

ESS

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Ok well

spaniel sorry for going crazy, but check your response! then you see what im talking about.
And if its so easy to create kind .....do it.
removing the undesired.... do it.
kicking out bad traits threw 5-6 genrations and not changing identities in your material.
making a variety that is suitable for the knewbie, like i said do it then.
after have them review it right here.
i will bet your uniform will come from some one elses work when you make seed.
im talking using scratch and fixing a family to where others can enjoy it cause its been fixed. and growing it has became easy without the worries behind it.
like it was in the begining.
And Sook beyond experiments man it changes after you build a solid relationship with your plants ,after years of friendship!

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

on supper cropping

So if you know your plant line ... you know what it does... there would be no worries.
if you dont , you need to anilize the group as bred ;for what you pass down to the childrenn needs to be noted to learn dom and ressive traits that you are giving ... c what i mean man?
fine if its your mom and your just kepin it hanging on for dear life to existance to reproduce hybs. or a good f--somthin backcross. then where do you go>>>

20 footers pumpin rock hard nug... thats a feat . that every one wants

 

[keyplay]

I hear you loud and clear

......and yeah the bred lines waiting to be baked by different specimens in each cycle that may come to fruition only when testing has been extensively and documented by the breeder after eating a peanut butter sandwich and of course that may not always be the typical or normal occurence but one may find out, yes

Far out, man!

 

[REDEYE_420]

I'm completely baffled too??

I'm getting more and more confused with every post.

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

ok guys

jokes huh?
well get this.
bullrider had been gone for a long time and then it comes back up....(the real bulrider) sativa pheno that came from my eyes, my touch and my ideas, my combos of terpinoids shall i go on????two totaly diffrent families.
I had no genes from bullrider and no idea about the combo to create bullrider... and either did any one else.
I started all this from old seed no purcheses from seed banks and no use of others material. you can asume i did but i mix match genes for fun and will till the end cause im not after the shit others are when they do this.
as i said i fuck, suck, and love every one i put time and money into because I have a relationship with them so i know there language.
I wish you all understanding. i stoped going to school early and i dont care if it shows in my grammer.

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

sheesh you guys its easy to understand him , its in his own words and black and white

he is a God of pollin chuckers

unfortunately some Devil has stollen his genes and making a buck off his hard work

poor Godly pollin chucker i feel for you and that Devil needs to stay in hell

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

no

he and all the others can do the rest of my hard work and i will seek my pair of gens a few years later and just restore that shiiiite.
i just wish others did what it takes for devolepment and we could do so much mor instead of stealing thats all.
Make that money you greedy devil and see what the god Lord says about it.
Fuck it from now on im putin LordKush, LordBullrider, lord what ever so when theese funny pitures come up they can cross refrence them...match the genetic makeup or traits that show and if people can see they will belive.
i want to say its origins that should make the names. not what goes on today. but if you learn history you bypass names and learn regions an species. jasmin, madagascar jasmine, gardina shrub, gardina bush.
we can all do the same stuff folks or we can be creative in our own world.
I am and you all dont want to or you would understand.
wait some may and they will admit but others wont and jump the wagon making jokes.
See you at the cup 1 day with a ripple effect!
This is my mutant leaf the L for LORD.

 

[shantibaba]

Hi All

away at present so limited with reading and doing all the posting i should be doing but saw this thread and thought to make a comment.

Since I began in this field of work i only ever had people copying everything i wrote for descriptions , every name i made and so on. Initially I felt all my work and labors were in vein as everytime i did the hard work and put in the time...well it seemed that i got a small part of my just deserves back?

Then I thought if my things are good enough for all other seed companies to copy as well as femminize or autoflower etc...well I must be doing something right for many of those who use the end product! It did not pay the bills but the more I thought about it the more I understood my motivations for doing this in the first place is because I loved it and enjoyed every facet of the process...I would be doing this anyway. So I took the approach to make the most of things as soon as I finished them and inevitable those in the industry will eventually copy or remake things in a different way but use the name I labelled it to sell their versions of my work. Sure it does not in any way mean things were correct from others but it stopped me getting upset with the state of the industry. I felt it was time to withdraw from the commercial side of this unregulated market and concentrate on the quality growers and patients who were worthy and honorable...hence the onset of www.mrnice.nl, and this forum for open sharing and support.

I refuse to believe that many can do the same as I do even with the same tools so it will always be a version made by others when you stop reading the hype or advertising. I prefer to meet people who are honorable and correct in all manner of life, rather than bow only to the money god as most tend to do...look at the femminized trend for a living example. Now there are so many confusions in this field it only acts to make it more difficult to find the real thing. Those who do know the worth and educate themselves enough eventually find their way here. We do not need all the market or even a majority of it as in most things the top 10% of people are the types we prefer to deal with...correct people in their daily lives .

So without taking away the seriousness of disappointment by breeding great things and having them copied...life is not just but at least we sleep well at night and have helped many in their ambitions.

Take care and remember if things are copied then they are simply worth to copy and that means they are worthy...your job was done well! All the best Sb

 

[Grover Sativa]

Shanti - Does that mean your OK with the varieties I'm releasing next month.,.

Super Silvery Haze
Medicine Woman
Great White Goldfish
Spicey
and Neville's Haze (nobody else seems to change the name of that one for some reason, so I won't either!)

OK, maybe not...

 

[b0b_b1tch1n]

cant wait for your Great White Goldfish Grover

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

it just sucks man.

thanks for responding.
respect for the labor and risk you put forth through the madness of the world we live in today.al the hard work with a naked eye and the gods guiding you.
now,
It just sucks to have all my selections and tributes to be grabed by the greedy and hijacked for resons more than I wanted. I want to see the shit they come up with with my out crosses 3-4 years from now .and then do it again for fun. now its shamfull slave trading types that use silver and cant cross refrence if it depended on there real moma!!!
i just dont get why people are doing the passing genne thing if its not theres.
the g sk1 i have is yours if you want it back just cause i know what it takes.
and see what ive done with it.
want grab some coffee:]

 

[spiritualyEnhanced]

Groover sativa

Thats what im talking about how long you been fukkkkin with the frequencies and doing the labor behind making a name??
Is that what he calls his work you copied or sim in a cross refrence, recognizing his work??? Shady games man shady.
Jef tek his bul is not even close to mine and i cant discribe the diff cause i havnt gottn a rip of it...
But mine is athentic cause i ibl two gen pools make origanl hydrids root out the hermie symptoms to f6 so far and there true.
That is mine then cause that is work!

 

[curious101]

Shanti - Does that mean your OK with the varieties I'm releasing next month.,.

Super Silvery Haze
Medicine Woman
Great White Goldfish
Spicey
and Neville's Haze (nobody else seems to change the name of that one for some reason, so I won't either!)

OK, maybe not...

i'm offering Super Soldier's Haze, Medicine Tranny (cause all the chems i've used on her lol), Hammerhead Shock, Neville's Devil's Haze, La Negro for all my african homies and G13/Funk!
ON A SERIOUS NOTE: I love Shanti's attitude, if his work is so good others would steal it and use his names on other hybrids then he feels he's at his peak...I agree he's copied but will never be duplicated or replaced! There is only one Shanti and thank god we have him here at MNS