questions for Nevil

[REDEYE_420]

Well jeese thats not enough for me!I dont belive it for a minute...

Hi Alecky, how are you? Welcome to the Mr Nice Forum.

Hey Alecky, what's hard to comprehend about Nevil's arrival here at MNS?

1, Shanti introduced Nevil to the community.
2, Shanti, Nevil and Howard all started Mr Nice Seeds together.
3, Shanti has been working with Nev's lines for a minute already.

....nor do i belive this posters claims about SSH,JH and DIESEL being the same cutting,nor can i belive forum members here not questioning this claim.

Here is a quote from the history section here on MNS.

We are daily users of cannabis, and the mother and father plants Neville and I have kept alive for the last twenty years are capable of producing every currently existing strain.

Shanti introducing Nevil to the community is enough for me to believe that it is Nevil I'm talking to, or reading.

What would it take for you to believe that it was indeed Nevil, Alecky?

 

[Doobz]

err... I feel even more retarded now.. I thought Nevil was Howard..

I lost the plot long ago.. ahh well.. Where is my spliff... I think thats lost also.. haha

 

[REDEYE_420]

LO@Cytrax, I want some of what your smoking!

 

[hempy]

Hi hempy,in short,no its not enough.

Jeese im not ganja,as you know Ganja from SS, is "archivist" on these forums.Come on you argued with him here!

To be honest jeese i taught it was you posting as nevil.

Anyway im not looking for an argument,i just dont belive its nevil and i dont belive SSH,JH,DIESEL are one and the same.

alecky what is it that you need to prove its neville do you want his passort or his front door key or will he need a hand writen note from some one i dont know who tho lol.

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It is Neville belive it.

 

[JessE]

Jeese im not ganja,as you know Ganja from SS, is "archivist" on these forums.Come on you argued with him here!
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Hi Alecky,
I dont think you're ganja, as Im well aware of his handle here at MNS, though if you give me some time I could come back to this thread with another handle lol. If it wasnt for the fact new members have to be accepted, I would demonstrate this point readily for you. We could be anyone we like on the internet. The point was ultimately that all we have to go on is your word, much like with Shanti and Nevil's. You could be anyone from President Obama to the Dalai Lama, with quite a few possibilities in between.

To be honest jeese i taught it was you posting as nevil.

Well it is certainly an honor to be confused with the King of Cannabis, but I can tell you he is far more knowledgable than myself. I learn from the man the same as everyone else. We are definitely not one in the same however.

 

[Nevil]

I find this debate about whether I'm the real Nevil or not almost as amusing as those companies pretending that their stock is derived from another source than the genetics that I put out there. Right now we have a lot of people pretending indignation at the suggestion that their stock is not exclusive. Who is going to stand up and say that they have a gene pool free of Seed Bank stock. There are a handful, but for the most part,
I have been in all of your grow rooms.
I'll be the first to admit that every generation puts it's own stamp on the progeny and every breeder has a right to be proud of their achievements, but I haven't seen anything new for some time. If you build a lego house with Red,Green White and yellow blocks, somebody can tear it apart and build a new one, but it will still be a house with Red,Green White and yellow blocks, From a distance they all look the same. I didn't create those blocks, they were given to me by other people and they didn't create them either. A pedigree data base might take a lot of the bullshit out of this business and genetic fingerprinting will flush out the liars. If we can be bothered.

People say I should write a book. I've been thinking about it. I've got a title.
GRAIL QUEST ON THE PLANET OF THE ZOMBIE GODS.
Our hero is caught in a time loop, is slashing his way through a jungle inhabited by slack-jawed dribbling arseholes intent on blocking his access to the legendary one toke, ecstasy and enlightenment Grail cannabis...........

Well, I had a bit of fun with that and I thought about deleting it but then I thought, In so many ways I'm just talking to myself. So what does it matter?
N.

 

[ironeddie]

hello all obviously new to this thread and forum i have watched it take a bad turn for the worse as soon as a few posters became involved in it really dont understand this line of thinking.. firstly what would shanti or mns have to be gained in any way by lying about the fact that nevil is indeed a member of these forums. second it is well known shanti and nevil have worked togeather a lot over the years and are truly good friends and collaborators and also a known fact that the 3 of them including mr marks are the forming members of the Mr. Nice line of gear..other than the fact you have NO proof whatsoever of your claims nevil is not nevil i feel it in extremely bad taste to come into this thread and blatantly accuse someone of not being who they say they are without any sort of proof to back up your side. have you ever met nevil? do you know anyone who has? are all your theories and conjecture merely pulled from some posts and the babble of other jealous breeders? i must agree with others who have said if you dont like whats happening here at mns thats fine don't believe it but it is in extremely poor taste and character to pop into someones back yard and start calling them a liar with absolutely no proof of your claims maybe the mns forums arent for you or their lines of fine beans..
good day to you sir and your jealous friends eddie

 

[ironeddie]

A quick question for nevil.....do you feel anything of value can be gained from a cross of any of the mexican dwarf strains being crossed with your haze? as we all know haze being sativa has a longer flowering period.. would this be of any use to growers in northern climates to be able to experiance the joys of fine haze mixed in such a way it has a shorter flowering period while keeping the taste and feel of your marvelous haze? or would the cross only serve to degrade the genetics of it im sure there would be a trade off at some point but would the outcome be beneficial?

 

[alecky]

Jeese and eddie calmdown!

Jeese not for a minute did i confuse you with "the king of cannabis" i merely taught you were immitating him.

Eddie thats a typicaly bad humoured reply that new members get here.I just asked a question.No of course i dont know nevil or anyone that does know him,if i did id ask him or them!

Again i just asked a question eddie,i didnt insult anyone.

 

[Nevil]

I saw dwarfism as a curiosity. It gives you a smaller plant with less yield in the same amount of time. If you were into bonsai cannabis, it might have appeal. Most people want more, not less.
N.

 

[kingkill]

I've decided to stop quoting Nevil in my signature. He just says too much cool stuff and I'd have to be always be changing it around.

 

[cheesefucker]

I find this debate about whether I'm the real Nevil or not almost as amusing as those companies pretending that their stock is derived from another source than the genetics that I put out there. Right now we have a lot of people pretending indignation at the suggestion that their stock is not exclusive. Who is going to stand up and say that they have a gene pool free of Seed Bank stock. There are a handful, but for the most part,
I have been in all of your grow rooms.
I'll be the first to admit that every generation puts it's own stamp on the progeny and every breeder has a right to be proud of their achievements, but I haven't seen anything new for some time. If you build a lego house with Red,Green White and yellow blocks, somebody can tear it apart and build a new one, but it will still be a house with Red,Green White and yellow blocks, From a distance they all look the same. I didn't create those blocks, they were given to me by other people and they didn't create them either. A pedigree data base might take a lot of the bullshit out of this business and genetic fingerprinting will flush out the liars. If we can be bothered.

People say I should write a book. I've been thinking about it. I've got a title.
GRAIL QUEST ON THE PLANET OF THE ZOMBIE GODS.
Our hero is caught in a time loop, is slashing his way through a jungle inhabited by slack-jawed dribbling arseholes intent on blocking his access to the legendary one toke, ecstasy and enlightenment Grail cannabis...........

Well, I had a bit of fun with that and I thought about deleting it but then I thought, In so many ways I'm just talking to myself. So what does it matter?
N.

Please write you book Nevil i would kill to read that I bet you got loads of stories to tell. I have a question to, what are you smoking on ? i know Ronin has already asked this but what is your favourite smoke. ?

 

[krk]

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One of the males I crossed it with was Ruderalis x NL1 X NL1. I was testing a 25% Ruderalis male on the most difficult plant I'd come across to see what it would do. I used all the seed I had to find the earliest male for the next generation. I grew the females out and because it was so resinous, I made hash out of it. To this day it was the best hash I've ever smoked, and I've been privileged to have smoked the best.
I truly regret not having made a cutting of that plant. I didn't make that mistake with the 6 that followed.
I'm feeling a bit sad now, I think that I'll go and have a smoke.
I'll tell you the rest later.
N.

What did you call this? rudy x NL xNL?? I have a friend that grew Critical Mass this summer and its flowering way ahead of the Early Skunks from shanti...
I miss the Early skunks from the late 80s and early 90s.. They were consistant 1lb yielders done by sept 25th.. It sadens me that the indoor breeds have stolen the show from the old days of outside supremacy. Big Bud never finished before ES back in the day. Could the finish time of the Critial Mass be shortened by shanti breeding it outside in europe?

 

[Grover Sativa]

Nev, you know the only true 'Holy Grail' joint is the first one you ever smoked?...
you spend the rest of your life searching for weed that'll get you as high...but you'll never find it! The fun is the search and what you uncover along the way!

On a completely different tip - I'm sure there's plenty of original (non sensi seed bank) lines out there. The days of the enthusiast scouring the globe looking for genetics aren't dead..(Shit! You're doing it yourself, right now!) They just don't win cannabis cups or get grown by many people...

If I was in Brazil or Greece or wherever and smoked some killer landrace, I'd bring seeds back. I'm sure the same applies for thousands upon thousands of other growers. If it was good and I knew how, I'd release seeds, get it 'out there'.

I can't be the only person who would do this (or, indeed, has done..)

It is surely a better option to encourage as many growers to breed original lines as possible - otherwise the future of cannabis really will look bleak, with the same mothers and fathers being 'remixed' a thousand times.

I hate to say it - I almost dare not say it - but how many hazes do we need? (Nev's Haze is probably good enough for all of us!)

It is very tempting to think that 'I'll never do it like Shanti or Neville, so why bother?' and probably true but that won't be the healthiest route to go down.

I've never ever thought of breeding before (short of a few fun projects) but if I ever did do something I would not want to be labelled as just another guy who used Nev's Haze and didn't admit it or have some other breeder telling everyone that they could easily make my stuff with their own mothers and fathers, especially if I'd spent time hunting down an original plant...I'd hope people at least gave my stuff a chance before being cast into a pot with Arjan and his ilk.

It can't be right to think that every single variety out there is somehow just a different mix of the same plants that Shanti has in his mother rooms. That everyone thinks like GHS(OKAY, It's probably 90% true...) but there must be some original stuff out there, mustn't there?

It makes me want to start a plant hunt myself...Jamaica, anyone?

GS

I hope I wasn't sounding disrespectful, 'cos that's not what I mean..

 

[Grover Sativa]

I'm off to play FIFA on my XBOX. I know I'm too old but in my world Tottenham actually win the Premier League....[sigh]

 

[Nevil]

I hate to say it - I almost dare not say it - but how many hazes do we need? (Nev's Haze is probably good enough for all of us!)

Well, we need a few.
Type 1
I need a Haze female that is not descended from either HzA or HzC, to put to the NH male. If it clicks, sufficient seed needs to be produced for long term storage, just in case. these seeds may be important to breeders in the future.
Type 2
I need an unrelated female to make a hybrid with the NH, preferably a sativa. This needs to be an elite sativa to bring out the best qualities of the NH.
Type 3
We also need to inbreed to our existing Haze lines, focussing on a fuller expression of the qualities already present in the gene pool. Resin production and yield, coupled with early flowering times are given more priority than with the pure and out-cross lines.

A lot of work has and is being done with type three. Types 1 and 2 still require a concerted effort. This is where I'm asking for help.

It's no good saying to me in 20 years time, what happened to the varieties from the good old days. We need to act now, before it's too late!
N.

 

[Skunkha]

preservation goals and aspirations

Well, we need a few.
Type 1
I need a Haze female that is not descended from either HzA or HzC, to put to the NH male. If it clicks, sufficient seed needs to be produced for long term storage, just in case. these seeds may be important to breeders in the future.
Type 2
I need an unrelated female to make a hybrid with the NH, preferably a sativa. This needs to be an elite sativa to bring out the best qualities of the NH.
Type 3
We also need to inbreed to our existing Haze lines, focussing on a fuller expression of the qualities already present in the gene pool. Resin production and yield, coupled with early flowering times are given more priority than with the pure and out-cross lines.

A lot of work has and is being done with type three. Types 1 and 2 still require a concerted effort. This is where I'm asking for help.

It's no good saying to me in 20 years time, what happened to the varieties from the good old days. We need to act now, before it's too late!
N.

on a hobby level I crossed a dynamite SSH to bag seed Malawi and got some good plants and more "average" ones too. the Malawi probably diluted many of the Haze hybrid's good qualities while adding an African "dankness" to the cross. the same can be said about the La Nina X Etiope Highland.

it would be great if an elite can be found in African genetics, but I'm not holding my breath. it seems that one aspect is common for the places that developed great "drug" genetics: long-term cultural stability such as in Colombia, Mexico, and Thailand. this is only one part of the story though ... other "pockets" may exist elsewhere.

all the best to the seekers and finders and sharers

 

[Ronin]

I heard this "Nevil" is actually a genetically altered sheeple who has come to exact his revenge for the late night drunken visits from the the real Nevil

 

[Kangativa]

Just a quick question people,how do ya know this is nevil? Any proof?

Come on mate....If you are not going to take Shanti's word then really you shouldnt be here. Thats basicly saying that he could be lying about his strains.
And last of all I have spoken to Nevil recently and believe me it is the real Nevil, so except the fact and read what he has to say and is trying to do.....maybe you can help instead of hindering, this is a good forum lets keep it that way.....cheers K

 

[Scorpion]

Just a quick question people,how do ya know this is nevil? Any proof?

Hi alecky,
How do you know the sun rises in the east and sets in the west?
simple Open your Eyes...

I read the Sensi Forum posts too,It seems a nerve was struck and now you come here and say this...

Shantibaba Introduced him,what more do you need?

Have you any knowledge of Nevil?
No,well then how would you know the difference?

Scorpion