Marcus_in_the_Darkus
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Greetz MNS grail seekers! Herewith the first post in the first thread about the newest and most intriguing MNS strain - Holy Grail.
I ordered a couple packs when they were first released. Covid slowed the mail down...took almost three weeks to arrive. I had just germinated some
ángeldorado seeds when I placed the order, so didn't have much room for the holy grail. I popped only three seeds on July 11. Two came up and one never did. A couple weeks later I went rooting around in the coir looking for the dead seed...found two seed husk halves and no evidence whatsoever of the embryo. Maybe a pest ate it? Dunno. So I popped another seed. That one sprouted, but just never took, shriveled up and died. So I popped a fifth seed. Meanwhile, the two remaining seedlings from the first few seeds I popped were extremely scrawny and spindly. Barely growing and showed no sign of standing up on their own. This is about when I read Musashi's post that he plants seeds in half-full containers, and adds soil later to help them grow straight. Maybe next time. This is when I also almost guillotined one of the first seedlings. I tried to repair it but it, also, succumbed. So I popped 5 seeds and ended up with only two plants. Both very weak and scrawny seedlings. I don't know if this was a problem in my grow media (coco and perlite), but I use this same technique for all my other grows and never had problems before.
The two seedlings were still not standing four weeks after I had first popped seed. There was no time to veg them and take cuts, as my ángeldorado cuts were rooting and almost ready to flower. So, remembering Shanti's advice to go 12/12 from seed with this strain, I simply put the two seedlings in the flower tent on August 11 in 5-inch pots. Here they are, after about 24 days of flower. HGA, on the left, is one of the first three seeds I popped. HGB was the fifth seed I popped a few weeks later. They straightened up after a couple weeks in 12/12, but they're still pretty flimsy.
Both are males, so I'm not going to be able to give any smoke reports anytime soon. I'll try again...
But, holy pheno spread Batman, I've never seen such a huge difference in two F1 seedlings. Given the stated pedigree, I was surprised to see how Indica leaning HGB was...he was culled, of course, in accordance with my pro-sativa selection criteria. Aromas were pretty subtle, but HGA had more pinene, which is the terpene I select for when I encounter it in sativas. Both plants showed an unusual structure in the early fan leaves where the leaflets overlapped a good bit. Both also showed variegation in some leaves.
I seriously considered culling both plants becasuse they were such weak spindly seedlings...I don't want to pass that trait on. But I'm kinda digging how HGA looks. Never seen such deep leaf serrations in MNS gear. So he got a stay of execution. I'm going to let him have his way with some ángeldorado seed plants that I'll flower outside.
I wish this grow would have given me at least one female to flower out, but it is what it is. I'll be very interested to see other MNS members grow the grail, especially my brother Musashi, who is a plant whisperer.
I ordered a couple packs when they were first released. Covid slowed the mail down...took almost three weeks to arrive. I had just germinated some
ángeldorado seeds when I placed the order, so didn't have much room for the holy grail. I popped only three seeds on July 11. Two came up and one never did. A couple weeks later I went rooting around in the coir looking for the dead seed...found two seed husk halves and no evidence whatsoever of the embryo. Maybe a pest ate it? Dunno. So I popped another seed. That one sprouted, but just never took, shriveled up and died. So I popped a fifth seed. Meanwhile, the two remaining seedlings from the first few seeds I popped were extremely scrawny and spindly. Barely growing and showed no sign of standing up on their own. This is about when I read Musashi's post that he plants seeds in half-full containers, and adds soil later to help them grow straight. Maybe next time. This is when I also almost guillotined one of the first seedlings. I tried to repair it but it, also, succumbed. So I popped 5 seeds and ended up with only two plants. Both very weak and scrawny seedlings. I don't know if this was a problem in my grow media (coco and perlite), but I use this same technique for all my other grows and never had problems before.
The two seedlings were still not standing four weeks after I had first popped seed. There was no time to veg them and take cuts, as my ángeldorado cuts were rooting and almost ready to flower. So, remembering Shanti's advice to go 12/12 from seed with this strain, I simply put the two seedlings in the flower tent on August 11 in 5-inch pots. Here they are, after about 24 days of flower. HGA, on the left, is one of the first three seeds I popped. HGB was the fifth seed I popped a few weeks later. They straightened up after a couple weeks in 12/12, but they're still pretty flimsy.
Both are males, so I'm not going to be able to give any smoke reports anytime soon. I'll try again...
But, holy pheno spread Batman, I've never seen such a huge difference in two F1 seedlings. Given the stated pedigree, I was surprised to see how Indica leaning HGB was...he was culled, of course, in accordance with my pro-sativa selection criteria. Aromas were pretty subtle, but HGA had more pinene, which is the terpene I select for when I encounter it in sativas. Both plants showed an unusual structure in the early fan leaves where the leaflets overlapped a good bit. Both also showed variegation in some leaves.
I seriously considered culling both plants becasuse they were such weak spindly seedlings...I don't want to pass that trait on. But I'm kinda digging how HGA looks. Never seen such deep leaf serrations in MNS gear. So he got a stay of execution. I'm going to let him have his way with some ángeldorado seed plants that I'll flower outside.
I wish this grow would have given me at least one female to flower out, but it is what it is. I'll be very interested to see other MNS members grow the grail, especially my brother Musashi, who is a plant whisperer.