MNS Mango Haze

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So having established that the Orginal beta test seeds pedigree for Mango Haze contained the same father as Super Silver Haze, Skunk x Hz C and that the Mango Haze released on the market today has a Skunk x Hz A as the father we can assume the reason for the two contradictions is the pedigree was just simply changed. The constant in the equation is the NL5HzC, but there are two different mother plants for the respected SSH and Mango Varietys.


Originally Posted by shantibaba
"......When Nev had found the female line to breed to the haze male to create SSH there was alot of testing and sampling done by quite some legends....Mango is a parallel cross of the SSH.That means the same father but different mothers from the same generation that SSH's mother originated from.Lets say you have two sisters and they had children with the same man...basically...."


ive love to know the exact lineage

is this still in question ?
caz im confused

shanti's last sentence of the last post diff mothers from the same generation.
i dont kno exactly wat is meant by that caz we kno the haze stock is all from 69 generation ,or if he is referring too the generation meaning the diff 2 diff sk/hzC

now if its parallel its not possible for hz A to be in mh caz there is no hz A in ssh ,also ive thought the haze A only survived as hybrids ,soo how is it possible mh lineage was changed .shanti added sk/haze A down the line ,is this one of the hybrids that survives the sk/hzA

if soo how come shanti just released limited edition sk/hz C,while i was inquiring about the strain i asked if there was sk/hzA i dont recall any response


1luvbigherb
 
bigherb said:
Originally Posted by shantibaba
"......When Nev had found the female line to breed to the haze male to create SSH there was alot of testing and sampling done by quite some legends....Mango is a parallel cross of the SSH.That means the same father but different mothers from the same generation that SSH's mother originated from.Lets say you have two sisters and they had children with the same man...basically...."
ive love to know the exact lineage

is this still in question ?
caz im confused

shanti's last sentence of the last post diff mothers from the same generation.
i dont kno exactly wat is meant by that caz we kno the haze stock is all from 69 generation ,or if he is referring too the generation meaning the diff 2 diff sk/hzC

Hi bigherb,
From how I understand it, there was a specific group of seeds in which two female plants were selected from the same batch. One of the sisters was destined for the Super Silver Haze pedigree, while the other is now the mother used for Mango Haze. Though it may or may not be more complicated than that in its truest form. For a little more insight into the process of these two related lines, see the quote below.

Originally Posted by Shantibaba
Hi All

well someone brought this thread to my attention and asked for me to comment...so I will.

In my experiences with the Haze plants, the actual breeding of traits into a plant are not easy.The only way you can attempt this, and it maybe out of the reach of most due to the number of plants required is this. You crack a batch of Haze from a reliable and as pure source as you can find. Keep the best 3 males that exhibit traits you are after in the physical plant. You do the same for 3 females you get from the same batch. You then proceed to pollinate each female to ABC males and crack the seed you make...identify those plants displaying traits you are looking for and pick the male that shows most true in the F1 progeny. This can only be achieved by doing larger samples of seeds...and then you will need to keep a fair few clone back ups until you are sure that certain plants do not shine your way. An example of such breeding was Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze from Mr Nice Seeds. Nev cracked over 1000 seeds and followed them through testing large F1 progeny...Mango female was easy to find for me but the male took a fair while...1.5 years. In that time I killed several hundred F1 seeds to find the male that proved to be most true in its progeny.However now with Nev Haze C, and my MH male I have two plants that combine well and carry certain Haze/sativa traits to all they mate with...but this has now taken quite some years.

So it can occur with luck and it can occur with hard work, but the amount of plants needed to fulfil this type of breeding is much more greater than Indica dominant breeding imo.

All the best Sb
bigherb said:
now if its parallel its not possible for hz A to be in mh caz there is no hz A in ssh ,also ive thought the haze A only survived as hybrids ,soo how is it possible mh lineage was changed .shanti added sk/haze A down the line ,is this one of the hybrids that survives the sk/hzA
Below is a quote from Shanti where he explains the pedigree information, one must keep in mind that Hz A and Hz C are related varieties from my understanding.

Originally Posted by shantibaba
just to clear the air from confusion and before you all go making a legend from myth here is how it was done and is done still....
-Nh is made from Haze C male which is made by two pure haze parents from 1969....then the female side of NH is made from Haze A combined to NL5 or NL5Haze A where Haze A was also made by two pure Haze parents also from 1969
-SSH is made up of Haze C combined to Skunk 1 or Skunk HzC which is the male side, the female side is Haze C combined to NL5 or NL5HzC
-Mango comes from a parallel cross same as SSH but with one difference
Haze A male combined to Sk 1 or Sk HzA being the male plant, the female is NL5HzC....that is the breeding of those three plants
-La Nina is the widow father breed to a pure Haze female...neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all.
Originally Posted by shantibaba
All these descriptions have been written by myself or Neville so they will represent the strain as accurately as our experience goes.
"MR NICE SEEDBANK; ‘MANGO HAZE’
This strain is a parallel line to the Super Silver Haze, i.e. it has the same Haze father and the mother is a sister of the SSH.
The later quote is the one many of us who received the pleasure to test grow the beta Mango Haze memorized by heart, i.e. Same father of SSH by different mother plants from the same generation. Whatever the case maybe, the Mango Haze on the market today is superb smoke. The beta Mango Haze was very impressive in its own right, this particular version I feel is right up there with the legendary pre 98 Kali Mist. Todays version seems more Indica dominant, however it could be the particular batch I received. The question remains from my understanding, but whatever the case may be we're talking an elite line.
 
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The later quote is the one many of us who received the pleasure to test grow the beta Mango Haze memorized by heart, i.e. Same father of SSH by different mother plants from the same generation. Whatever the case maybe

its confusing really until shanti clears things up becaz the last quoted post is contradicting the one before it

The beta Mango Haze was very impressive in its own right, this particular version I feel is right up there with the legendary '96 Kali Mist.

as for the comparison i find interesting ,esp if you referring to the taste/aromas of kali

1luvbigherb
 
Hi Herb,
The original Kali mist under went an initial change in 1998 to my understanding, and not for the better either. Simon himself thought this when it under went a second change, into what is now a third incarnation of this legendary line. The Mango Haze and Kali Mist are different plants of course, but used together in the same context in an effort to set the two in a plain of existence more god like than other varieties.

When looking at other varieties to purchase and grow, the standard for which I set my grow room/garden/greenhouse is Mango Haze and its sister line, Super Silver Haze. Therefor I find it quite difficult to go for any other line, where mystery may very well be involved, when there is two lines such of these which will without question deliver elite results. The breeding that has went into these two varieties is quite apparent, if you're looking for lines that you can absolutely count on then go no further really.
 
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