Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid
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oscar the rotund
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Thanks for answering my questions.
I think that all the arguments about indoor vs. outdoor would cease if you all would recognize two statements. MOST people can't grow sativas indoors as well as Hempy. Hempy should recognize he is a special case with skills MOST don't have. Recognizing this all of you would be correct and there would be no argument.
I think that all the arguments about indoor vs. outdoor would cease if you all would recognize two statements. MOST people can't grow sativas indoors as well as Hempy. Hempy should recognize he is a special case with skills MOST don't have. Recognizing this all of you would be correct and there would be no argument.
jack hairy
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everyone can grow indoors just the same as anyone else, just takes knowledge.
josh, dont want to get on your bad side, i hope you see my point of view, im not complaining or whining, just throwing the idea out there, let them know i would be interested as well as a few other people.
ponde, i agree with you, maybe only 1% of us will care, but should we be forgotten about to provide for the masses? i would love to see anything youd be willing to show.
people think kush is awesome, but they havent had haze.(nor have i, but ive seen the hints)
just because something is popular, there may be a small percentage of the population that knows something is better, just gotta get the word out. and that happens by getting more people to grow it, people to smoke it, and change their minds...
josh, dont want to get on your bad side, i hope you see my point of view, im not complaining or whining, just throwing the idea out there, let them know i would be interested as well as a few other people.
ponde, i agree with you, maybe only 1% of us will care, but should we be forgotten about to provide for the masses? i would love to see anything youd be willing to show.
people think kush is awesome, but they havent had haze.(nor have i, but ive seen the hints)
just because something is popular, there may be a small percentage of the population that knows something is better, just gotta get the word out. and that happens by getting more people to grow it, people to smoke it, and change their minds...
joshuahazen
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No worries Jack, we should all be able to take a little criticism, myself included.
joshuahazen
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....and you my friend have been growing Nevil's original haze that never existed
Im really not sure why you have acted in this manner ,We've never had any issues.How can i be full of shit on my opinon thats all it is, on top of that i give you a post from a member at IC which gives pre seed bank dates are you implying i created that post
I think i should start a thread for some of you
MNS fam would you call this Relating hating or disrespecting ?
....Ive grwon NH ive grown Sk/HZ and i said since my first taste i can see a relation .
First of all I have never grown or smoked Nevil's Haze. Hopefully that will change in the next year or so. But I happen to know that it is the closest descendent to the original NL5hz which you can get from any Seed seller. NL5hz is the most probable ancester to NYC haze, hence my recomendation. My expertise is the original seedbank Nl5Hz whose descendents I have cultivated in the form of my own unique hybrids for a very long time.
Your rhetorical assumptions are that somehow posi OHAZE is actually closer to the haze brothers haze, and therefore superior to Nevils haze hybrids. There is little proof to back this up. These assumptions whether they are your opinion, or outright lies are completely false, and Nevil's Grail thread is certainly not the appropriate place to voice them.
I have never heard anyone say that Posi haze is more potent than Seedbank haze, on the other hand, most experts agree that NH is the best haze of all time. Nobody denies this. Same with NL5hz in its time.
Historically it was the Seedbank that made Haze so Famous, and that is because 5hz is one of the strongest strains to ever hit the face of the earth.
Anyone with a small grain of common sense could ascertain that NL5Hz is the most probable source for NYC Haze.
Calling a spade a spade is not disrespectful, and it sure isn't hating. In fact I am attempting pay this thread, MNS and you respect, by uncovering your rhetoric, and exposing it for what it is... A load of shit.
I apologize if my language offends you.
But I am glad you can see the relation between NH and NYC Haze...
See now you are starting to make some sense. It is much easier to attain your goals when you are willing to let go of false presumptions, no matter how hard you have clung to them in the past.
In fact the harder you cling to them the more they will damage you, hence the greater your personal benefit will be when you finally let go of them.
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bigherb
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Josh
Im from confrontational but i seem to draw attraction with my haze passion and shared nyc haze experience's
It boggles my mind how you and some other's form these opinion from words i never used said or meant,You n others have put words in my mouth such as you above post .I never compared posi haze to NEVS hybrids it shouldnt be compared one is pure the other is a hybrid.But of course the posi stock would be closer because its been kept pure doesnt take a genius to know that
Your wrong again,The man in the cruz is the who made haze famous almost 20 yrs before nevil released his haze hybrids
Remember give respect where it is due
Its clear your feelings about me ,lets return the Grail topic
Im from confrontational but i seem to draw attraction with my haze passion and shared nyc haze experience's
It boggles my mind how you and some other's form these opinion from words i never used said or meant,You n others have put words in my mouth such as you above post .I never compared posi haze to NEVS hybrids it shouldnt be compared one is pure the other is a hybrid.But of course the posi stock would be closer because its been kept pure doesnt take a genius to know that
Your wrong again,The man in the cruz is the who made haze famous almost 20 yrs before nevil released his haze hybrids
Remember give respect where it is due
Its clear your feelings about me ,lets return the Grail topic
joshuahazen
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Sounds good to me. I have no problem with you my friend, only with your OHAZE tangent.
anyway back to the Grail...
anyway back to the Grail...
CannabisPatient
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Tell me if you think that this Hawaiian does well indoors.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/16-bud-shots/6166-maui-sativa-70s-piece-grail.html#post93037
Neville, Kanga, Bushweed...folks working on the Grail. Please check out the above link as I really think that Maui could be a piece of the Grail. In higher doses I have had a sense of presence and she is just all around great herb. Amazing vigor, big yields, potent chakra opening day brightening medicine. She creates a feeling of love in those who meet her. It gives me a feeling of brotherly/sisterly love and I have heard that it is wicked strong for intimate love.
Long live Maui- The love maker.
Isn't Hawaiian Sativa X G13 Free Leonard? Or was your HawaiianxG13 done by a different breeder?
Happy Growing,
CP
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Donald Mallard
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Gotta say it seems to be flowering a little too well in the time for a pure sat ??
very pretty and resinous buds , reminiscent of c99 x sativas that ive done ,,
i wouldnt be too sure it isnt a hybrid cp ,,
nevertheless its a lovely plant and well grown too boot ...
Dr. Purpur
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I have two Mauis in bud right now too. One pheno looks similar to Thai. The other is pretty hazy smells, but is moving pretty fast. Probably like a 10 week and a 14 week
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Kangativa
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Hi all.......Sorry for not getting back to answering questions, just been off with the family surfing for a few days
I will sit down tonight and get back to it.
Some great reading here......Jack H if you knew the stories behind the MM and Oaxacan you would understand why they wont be sold, but they will actually be passed on when the time is right.
I will sit down tonight and get back to it.
Some great reading here......Jack H if you knew the stories behind the MM and Oaxacan you would understand why they wont be sold, but they will actually be passed on when the time is right.
jack hairy
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and these stories are...?
id love to hear more, or more info about where theyll be passed on to?
but if i just have to be patient no problem...
i will have some new jack herer in a week, but it doesnt have me in as much anticipation as this thread, and i can see and smell the jack in person.
id love to hear more, or more info about where theyll be passed on to?
but if i just have to be patient no problem...
i will have some new jack herer in a week, but it doesnt have me in as much anticipation as this thread, and i can see and smell the jack in person.
Hemphrey Bogart
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Good to hear you got some waves, Kanga! You guys have some of the world's best waves in Australia. Before I die, I'll have to do the whole Indo/Australia 2-3 month trip thing.
I've been a waterman for about 25+ years. Speaking of water, around here it never gets much above 55-65-ish. Despite the chilly waters, there is NOTHING like dropping in, coming off the bottom, and looking down the line at a long peeling shoulder with no one trying to snake me/get in the way for the next 50-100 yards. It almost seems like time slows down a bit when you catch a really good one.
The last time I surfed a couple weeks ago, I caught what was probably one of my best waves in recent memory. I still think about that wave from time to time. Light offshore, slightly overhead and peeling with no one in the way or trying to drop in. Makes me smile just thinking about it.
I think maybe someone should start a surfing thread somewhere on here so we can post pics and swap stories. Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't bushie surf or used to surf? If so, I'm sure he's got some wild tales that he might want to share (or not), lol.
Anyway, glad you're back, Kanga.
I've been a waterman for about 25+ years. Speaking of water, around here it never gets much above 55-65-ish. Despite the chilly waters, there is NOTHING like dropping in, coming off the bottom, and looking down the line at a long peeling shoulder with no one trying to snake me/get in the way for the next 50-100 yards. It almost seems like time slows down a bit when you catch a really good one.
The last time I surfed a couple weeks ago, I caught what was probably one of my best waves in recent memory. I still think about that wave from time to time. Light offshore, slightly overhead and peeling with no one in the way or trying to drop in. Makes me smile just thinking about it.
I think maybe someone should start a surfing thread somewhere on here so we can post pics and swap stories. Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't bushie surf or used to surf? If so, I'm sure he's got some wild tales that he might want to share (or not), lol.
Anyway, glad you're back, Kanga.
CannabisPatient
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Thanks Bushweed and Kanga. I wish you guys the best of luck with your project on the strain "Grail" or is it "The Grail"?. I seem to think that every ones individual quest for a grail will be ever evolving. About the beans I only have the one clone of Maui, but I am working on out crosses. When the testing begins and the winners are confirmed I will be sure to let ya know. It will probably be a while. You know how it is Sativas teach patience. lol. I will work out the smoke report soon as the buds from the first harvest have been in jars for at least 3 months. Happy Growing.
I totally agree Mr. Duck. The floral clusters are quite large, dense and fast forming for a pure sativa. The effect also has a tiny bit of hybrid effect, but I expect that it is a high THC and low cbd profile. The clone was gifted to me named "Maui Sativa" and I was told that it was handed down and kept alive in clone since the early to mid 70s- seeds from Maui and clones from Chicago. I can not confirm any of what I was told. I don't even really know if she came from Maui, but it is a damn fine lady and she stands out from everything in my stable. I suspect that it was hybridized at some point some generations ago, but that is more of a feeling. I spend lots of time with her. lol. Chinese and Indian immigrants were around Hawaii before then so it is still possible right?
Talks are now happening about acquiring some Nev's Mango pollen so things are looking up for a good start.
I totally agree Mr. Duck. The floral clusters are quite large, dense and fast forming for a pure sativa. The effect also has a tiny bit of hybrid effect, but I expect that it is a high THC and low cbd profile. The clone was gifted to me named "Maui Sativa" and I was told that it was handed down and kept alive in clone since the early to mid 70s- seeds from Maui and clones from Chicago. I can not confirm any of what I was told. I don't even really know if she came from Maui, but it is a damn fine lady and she stands out from everything in my stable. I suspect that it was hybridized at some point some generations ago, but that is more of a feeling. I spend lots of time with her. lol. Chinese and Indian immigrants were around Hawaii before then so it is still possible right?
Talks are now happening about acquiring some Nev's Mango pollen so things are looking up for a good start.
lbezphil2005
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I really hate to bother you with this, but I have heard so much argument from people over this - no matter how you "force" your female to make pollen, some can and do turn? No matter how, gibberelic acid or light or whatever? Just trying to make sure, I would like to make something stable (a combination is better for my conditions, so I am trying to get the "perfect" plant for my pain, so to speak.
Cernunnos
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Hi mate. Nevs taking a break from the forum at the moment and is busy with other things. Though, you can find threads on the forum that discuss breeding. Take a look in the breeders support and info section. If you are into fem seeds, there is a big thread on fem seeds.
http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/6-breede...ere-impact-future-species-known-cannabis.html
You wont find Mr Nice fem seeds other than The Remedy (which is still being trialled) and only then because they have been asked for by people who are growing for medical reasons. Personally, I wouldn't bother with em mate.
All the best
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JessE
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With all due respect to all parties involved, I thought this was an excellent post Joshua. Nice work.
joshuahazen
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Thank you Jesse.
Dr. Purpur
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smoking some quick dry Royal haze over here. Gonna try a slow flowering Maui next. It looks similar to Thai
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