Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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wow ,,
we agreed on something there mr hempy ,,
good to see ..

anyhows im sure we can also agree that its not really size that counts with good erb , its the quality not the quantity .

Ahhh yes but there is nothing like quantity of quality:D
 
G`day deran /BH
Yo BH I think you need a hobby bro .
I find it offensive that you write all over these boards with speculation, innuendo and hearsay ! Though when another member relates their own personal expiriences and you counter with the ole "where`s the pics" line .
Scanning old photos from magazines does not confirm or deny the diversity of the Canna that grows in corners of the world that you have never
resided in.

So now NVL`s on sabbatical are you going to become Kang`s #1 nut hugger ?

I honestly believe you should find another interest to direct your overabundance of energy ,that at the moment is being used to spread missinformation and unsubstantiated urban rumour !
Don`t read me wrong here, I enjoy reading a lot of what you write but ,keep it real please bro . Thinking that you can know every detail of every species of Canna is to fool yourself !

Here`s an old poem that is relevant in this case .

A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?


Yes you may have journalistic training ,but atm it would be better suited to a tabloid than a Mj forum .
Thanks for sharin
Elmer Bud

You're completely misinterpreting what I was saying and no, I'm not hugging anyone's nuts.

Misinformation and unsubstantiated rumour? Fuck off, I've said nothing of the sort. I might be reading you wrong but I found your post offensive.

It's perfectly reasonable to ask to see pics when someone claims something outlandish.
 
Bigherb give it a rest there nothing like pan reds you have never seen a real pan red so take look at that Angola thats basically wat a pan red looks like in flower and no you wont grow that ether in snow

Hempy you are a sad man

I hav admitted I wasnt around for the strains of yesteyear im here to learn,you on the other hand make a comment about everything without even giving some solid details of your experience,which ive asked for .Which should be the intent of these topics ,not to be negative an knock other breeders efforts or member experiences .You should have another one on with shanti maybe you forgot the Mns philosophy


If you even gave the thread a look below is a quote

Jammie
i was stationed at fort davis in the canal zone from '74-'76. we used to go out to a place called cow shit valley during the rainy season to pick shrooms and its also where i began my love affair with MJ. while i agree that your plant looks amazing it looks nothing like the red that i smoked for 2 years. that stuff was blondish with redish orange hairs. now i'm sure that there was more than 1 strain of red in panama at that time- i just never came across it


Unlike yourself I dont lie ,since your Soo in the know n seem to know everything and have admitted you knew what city Nevil obtained haze Big secret LOL (ADAM),why dont you ask Nevil bout my Nh is the snow
 
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There once was a bird,
Who grew some bud,
He grew that Bud,
In His own Turd.

They say it was the best,
That Bird turd Bud,
He didnt say much,
He pounded His Pud.

He watched Porn all day,
as the cows ate Hay,
When they chewed their cud,
He pounded His Pud,

When asked why He pounded His Pud all day,
He replied,"they took My Bird Turd Bud away".
" What am I supposed to do?
Eat the Hay?" :D
 
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9 meters in NZ Wal? That has the verisimilitude of an 8 foot pygmy:D

always trying to improve my vocabulary bushy ,,
good form ,, i enjoy it ..

so had to look it up ,,

Verisimilitude (or truthlikeness) is the quality of realism in something (such as film, literature, the arts, etc).

when i read the article i thought maybe they mistook feet for metres ,,
i hear there are giants in new zealand , hehe ..
 
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DR.P
Two cocky young bulls were standing in the high paddock gazing down at the cows when one says to the other, "Come on, let's gallop down there and fuck one of those cows."
An old bull who was grazing nearby overheard the conversation and looked up, "Don't rush down there and fuck one those cows. Let's take our time, walk down there and fuck all of them" :D

Thats an old One! LOL:D
 
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british_hempire said:
As a Dutch friend of mine always used to say 'pics or it didn't happen'.

british_hempire said:
It's perfectly reasonable to ask to see pics when someone claims something outlandish.

british_hempire said:
Well if you don't have pics then I don't believe you

LOL

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones...

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/4-talk-shantibaba-mrnice-vu-du-com-support/5655-hawaiian-indica.html

Peace.

K.
 
On this NYC Piff/Haze thing, many people have stated that it's a Colombian hybrid called 'The Black' that is grown in Florida and shipped up the interstate to NYC. There are people who have that Black cut and have done grow threads on it. It yields huge and has that typical incense smell many Colombians have. I'd bet that is the source of this NYC Haze, too many people have wrote about it and no-one has been able to suggest a credible alternative source for the NYC Haze.

In Holland there is still a lot of Haze but it's nearly all SSH. The Amnesia cutting that's been all the rage the last couple of years is supposed to be an NL dom SSH, I've seen it in friend's gardens and smoked lots of it, I think it's SSH, a 9-10 week NL dom pheno. The A5 and C5 cuttings still turn up, I saw 'S5 Haze' in the Zoo in Zutphen and when I asked, it was C5. So if you like hybrids with only a bit of Haze influence in them, there's plenty in Holland. However, for anything more Hazy than those there are few options. I saw Neville's Haze for sale in T'Bunkertje in Apeldoorn, that was not bad. They also have Nev's Haze in Cafe 420 just off the Damrak in Amsterdam, again not bad. Dampkring still has some good Haze hybrids, I like their Mexican Haze a lot, it's A5 x Mexican male.
 
Hi BH,
I have smoked Amnesia Haze in London, and in Amsterdam, it was basically the same in both places. It seems to be more crystalized than SSH, but much less stony, and to my palate, barely tastes like haze. It does remind me of NL, now that you mention it.
From what my friends told me it was like the no 1 shit to have in UK last year.
 
Hempy

You along with many other shave shown your true colors long ago .You need some franks in your life .Remember you'd never talk like this to me to my face ,soo have fun .



BH


Cocktail farnk just confirmed yesterday that the blacks isnt wat he grew up on in NYC his sample came from money mike,Ive always thought the same myself .Just couldnt confim it becaz i havnt had a Sample from a confirmed source but have had wat many called blacks .The blacks was coined id say som years later than our church or franks .Remember like kush nowadays there are soo many varieties it might surprise most .Some might say haze is still the most sought after strain in Nyc.


1luvbigherb
 
I bet NYC Haze is related to Seedbank Haze. The timing is about right, and generally speaking, nothing can compete. We just called it Holland Haze in the west.

As for Holland, I went there for the first time in 05 thinking I would get a bunch of seeds, but I was so disappointed with the smoke... I didn't even bother, I didn't want to adulterate my strains.

SSH of that time was the best I could find, and to me, as compared to the Seedbank Haze, it just didn't have that haze punch that I was used to. It was like a watered down candystore variety of haze. Strange because genetically it has twice as much haze in it as my 5hz hybrids, but in terms of Haze flavor and potency?
No comment...

BH, thanks for the tip on Cafe 420. I will remember that.
 
I don't know, I've thought about it a lot since I joined here. I think the problem is SK1. It is so dominant, haze gets lost.

I have found that this is the case with most strains. I have crossed my 5hz cut with so many different strains over the years, and I have found, that while the haze flavor always bleeds through to a certain extent, most stuff I have crossed it with, really waters it down. I have found a very few strains(3todate), that the 5hz character seems to totally dominate, and none of them were skunky.
 
Hi BH,
I have smoked Amnesia Haze in London, and in Amsterdam, it was basically the same in both places. It seems to be more crystalized than SSH, but much less stony, and to my palate, barely tastes like haze. It does remind me of NL, now that you mention it.
From what my friends told me it was like the no 1 shit to have in UK last year.

Amnesia Haze isn't the same thing as Amnesia. Amnesia Haze was made by Soma and he has never come clean about what the lineage is, he tells some BS about breeding it for Cambodian and others. Amnesia Haze is probably the Amnesia (SSH) cutting crossed to the G13Haze male Soma used in many crosses. The original keeper Amnesia Haze cutting of Soma's was awesome but he lost it after falling out with the people that held it for him. They passed the cutting out to people to piss Soma off which is how it got to the UK.
 
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