Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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Nevil said:
Northern Lights 5 crossed with Haze male C. Is the best Indica / Sativa hybrid that I've ever done. HzA male to NL5 was also excellent and was the mother of N.H. The HzC was a complex sweet aroma, while HzA produced plants with a leathery smell, more reminisent of the old Thai's.
Complex liver/ leather smell is what I'm looking for in a good Thai descenant to cross with the Haze.
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great thread exuse my ignorance neville i was unaware you were the breeder of the best all round plant ive ever had ,the nl5 xhaze that sensi had in the 80s respect to you ,for me that is THE BEST we kept our cutt alive for 15 years i lost it myself but ive heard it may still be going here in uk which would make 24 years if true ,it was a purple stemmed plant with the frankisense aroma ive heard described here ,anyway sorry to butt in i nearly felloff my seat when i realised who you were lol thanks for breeding a hell of a plant ,
 
chalky white said:
deran a indica type high you for sure have never tasted the real haze and 18 weeks never heard of that type the longest my haze has ever gone was 14 weeks but normally 12 weeks
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ha chalk i have seen mangohaz that are 50% haze go 17/18 weeks from seed but then from clone run at 9 ish weeks.

I have seen nevilles haze run 18 weeks and much longer to.

I read people post and say nothing of todays genetics offerd compears to old lines well there rong.

I have found nevilles haze mango haze ssh shithaze and other lines that not only compear to old school lines they equal the best its all in the selection and efferts you put into it.
 
PatrickStar said:
Yeah, I shouldn't have posted that. I'm serious, my bad. I don't delete my posts, though. What I say, I own.

JessE never gave me any worthwhile advice. The closest thing that I can remember him telling me to good advice was to clean my grow area, and to try hempy bukkits. Both comments appeared very backhanded to me.

The couple of plants that he grew, I suppose make him a grower. He did grow a dozen or so plants, and post pics of some of them. I never saw him do an indoor grow, or grow an outdoor plant that I would be impressed with after 3 years of doing outdoor. To me, it seemed like he was more of an aspiring journalist/blogger or something.

Sorry, as someone who is PASSIONATE about growing, I really don't consider the occasional gardener a 'grower'. I should have kept that thought to myself. :)
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well pat you can tell him that your self as his re joined.
 
Yeah, be careful the guy who runs illegal operations on the majority of the worlds continents so that he can sell seeds through increasingly arcane legal means is out to get YOU, the HOMEGROWER!

Shameful. You really should be ashamed of what your implying. I'm totally flabbergasted at the arrogance being displayed right now.

In other news, Haze is fun to smoke, the CBD Crew is the most altruistic cannabis venture ever undertaken in history, water wet, sun hot etc...
 
Synonims of the word Impractical and how it relates to Hz

Drongo leave it mate...

The second highest nubmer online was the day Nevil first posted. Mr. Hempy I think you now which day was the first...

I feel let down by it all and the younger guys that really want to work with the plant in the future are going to suffer the most. I came here to build a working knowledge of ganja. I came here from years of commercial growing and never understanding what i was doing... I came here to build a friendship with a person that is noted for being the most solid brother in the game, and now everybody is taking his kindness for weakness... it is through this site that the connection is cultivated and maintained and it is sad to think that we may not have that connection for much longer.

Ibid to Nevil.

Impractical is an oxymoran for Hz... when we grow indoors... and inmhe.

Workable is a better word, and given proper patience, practical application can be had for anyone willing to put in the care and effort... like Mr. Hempy mentioned, and brother Yosammy is showing us all...

I can understand people hating for not being involved in special pm correspondence, but it would be a lot easier if members felt they were left out to just ask nicely to be let in.

I am thinking about Joe's Hawiian and the NH open pollinated to Kanga's 04 outdoor op. I got budget maybe for one more... and those buds above look really nice Rimmeo. I think it is a fair price considering who is doing the breeding and growing...

I am having some thoughts with regard to Hz flowering under T5, but thought I might ask anyone who may have already been around this track.

I am currently blooming under T5 and then in about 30 days transition to 1K's for the remainder of their cycle.

T5 Connection

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I never consciously thought about doing this at first, it just something that I am lucky to experiment and learn from. It just evolved this way.

I am trying to figure out how stretch with flowers already on stems will be effected once they get their first few weeks under the sodium vapors... it might not work the way I imagine but if it does, may prove to be something worth continuing...

It is part of my grail hunt and the nature to our indoor beast...

Taste, potency all hits you like it was grown in highland thailand... but right here indoors... all in 12/14 weeks max!!!

It is not impossible with Nevil and Sb's gear.

Peace everyone,

Chana
 
ya ok bro im no troller thats for sure im guilty of one thing the love for good marijuana bro the rest who care's say what you wish I wont feed no more
 
Chana Masala said:
Drongo leave it mate...

The second highest nubmer online was the day Nevil first posted. Mr. Hempy I think you now which day was the first...

I feel let down by it all and the younger guys that really want to work with the plant in the future are going to suffer the most. I came here to build a working knowledge of ganja. I came here from years of commercial growing and never understanding what i was doing... I came here to build a friendship with a person that is noted for being the most solid brother in the game, and now everybody is taking his kindness for weakness... it is through this site that the connection is cultivated and maintained and it is sad to think that we may not have that connection for much longer.

Ibid to Nevil.
Impractical is an oxymoran for Hz... when we grow indoors... and inmhe.

Workable is a better word, and given proper patience, practical application can be had for anyone willing to put in the care and effort... like Mr. Hempy mentioned, and brother Yosammy is showing us all...

I can understand people hating for not being involved in special pm correspondence, but it would be a lot easier if members felt they were left out to just ask nicely to be let in.

I am thinking about Joe's Hawiian and the NH open pollinated to Kanga's 04 outdoor op. I got budget maybe for one more... and those buds above look really nice Rimmeo. I think it is a fair price considering who is doing the breeding and growing...

I am having some thoughts with regard to Hz flowering under T5, but thought I might ask anyone who may have already been around this track.

I am currently blooming under T5 and then in about 30 days transition to 1K's for the remainder of their cycle.

T5 Connection

C5_T5_March_23_2012_1_.JPG

I never consciously thought about doing this at first, it just something that I am lucky to experiment and learn from. It just evolved this way.

I am trying to figure out how stretch with flowers already on stems will be effected once they get their first few weeks under the sodium vapors... it might not work the way I imagine but if it does, may prove to be something worth continuing...

It is part of my grail hunt and the nature to our indoor beast...

Taste, potency all hits you like it was grown in highland thailand... but right here indoors... all in 12/14 weeks max!!!

It is not impossible with Nevil and Sb's gear.

Peace everyone,

Chana
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Now that's what i'm talking about, those are some nice sativa's
 
Thanks mate

Thanks Chana , youre a good friend mate . Its the grail thread , I'll remove my negative stuff from it mate :)
 
hempy said:
How about you all get back to topic and stop trashing nevs thread.
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Right, I remember. You can go as off topic as you want, but everyone else has to follow "the rules" which are ever so enforced by management. I stopped supporting you when you became a hypocrit and flat out rude. I then put you on ignore and I never had to worry about it.

Then you come back...under the guise of protecting a snitch! And I still give you the benefit of the doubt...and here we are...you do it again with telling people they should behave in a certain way even though you are one of the worst offenders of this banter. Don't bother responding to me because I won't see it. I'll just put you back on ignore for the duration of my stay here...likely ending in a few weeks with my Z6 thread...

And I'm sorry, this thread was trashed long ago and I like to think of how glad I am that Nevil cares infinitely more about working on the grail then talking about it...so I doubt he really gives a damn about this thread by now.

Good bye Hempy, best of luck with your crusade, don't let it drive you to the loony bin or your grave (I am not joking about that).

Sensi
 
S13 brother, I just want to disagree...

because I am still learning from it...

It is a phoenix that has risen from the ashes at least 10 times already...

Hz smoke makes it rise again...

I hope you stick around...

Remember, I mentioned a collaborative thread...

Come on mate, it is worth it for me... and many of us here...

CM
 
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Sensimilla13 said:
Right, I remember. You can go as off topic as you want, but everyone else has to follow "the rules" which are ever so enforced by management. I stopped supporting you when you became a hypocrit and flat out rude. I then put you on ignore and I never had to worry about it.

Then you come back...under the guise of protecting a snitch! And I still give you the benefit of the doubt...and here we are...you do it again with telling people they should behave in a certain way even though you are one of the worst offenders of this banter. Don't bother responding to me because I won't see it. I'll just put you back on ignore for the duration of my stay here...likely ending in a few weeks with my Z6 thread...

And I'm sorry, this thread was trashed long ago and I like to think of how glad I am that Nevil cares infinitely more about working on the grail then talking about it...so I doubt he really gives a damn about this thread by now.

Good bye Hempy, best of luck with your crusade, don't let it drive you to the loony bin or your grave (I am not joking about that).

Sensi
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Lisen Sensimilla13 i left this site becouse i along with a few other members of this site were being trolled bulled and slanded so i after 2 years of this had enuf and left but instead of it stopping they thort to keep it up well no more enuf i came back to hit it head on.

Now since your trying to take the high moral ground here explane to me why such a valued member as your self felt that these trolls actions and on going actions are positive or justified to this site or membership please this will be good.

Could it be most of these trolls are your buddys and that then gives them the right to do as they like ?.

I not once saw you post when they trolled and trashed my grow threads now i dont think i deserve any special treatment here but how would you like your threads trashed and for you to be bullied and then slanded i bet you love every moment of it.

As for GM1 how is he my side kick if you feel he has done what you claim contact shanti all i see and saw if a guy show up say how he likes my method point out how the trolling and bulling was rong and them turn on him like a pack of dogs .

So dont you dear accouse me of supporting rats i was the only one to stand up and say what happend to japfreek was very wrong i didnt see you ort your mates do it so ghrow up and find something co9nstructing to do with your time is my sugestion.
 
Chana Masala said:
The second highest nubmer online was the day Nevil first posted. Mr. Hempy I think you now which day was the first...

Chana
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What are you trying to say here Chana ?.

You do relise i deffended neville for over a decade along with shanti and mr nice from slander and lies and even personal attacks for over a decade and even from people you call on line mates and why did i do it well i deffended mr nice becouse of what it stood for and i deffended neville as a friend met him in the dam in the 80s and told me he neville went out of his way to look after him in short i was told nev was a good guy.

You have a hide my friend to think you can now some how blame me for people turning on nev or even shanti in this forum i think you need to be looking closer to the people you call friends for that.

Yes Chana i saw how many showed up when neville came out of the shadows it sent a shoke wave threw the industry and all the people wanting to ride his tail coats to better them selfs in short to use neville came a running to mr nice and thats when all the shit started to hit the fan at this site.

What i then saw was people with no conection to this site show up and start to single out long term members i saw lots of shit and still do but we wont talk about that as it may affend.
 
We are all brothers here for the most part Hempy, in the plant.

I am personally learning it is not them I need to war with.

I am warrior in my nature like you... but have to come to realize that I can not war with cananbis as my underlying cause... let along on a canabis fourm, as you know it just turns to shit and cause headachs for our friend.

I will fight to the death as you put when it comes to mateship, family and those that are less fortunate... if you wold of talked to me about 6 months ago, I would of took to the street.

That same shock wave re Nevil, is something that you created on March 28 mate, and days later we are still carrying it in to threads that are community oriented.

That you are able to ignite is a testament to you Hempy. I just feel you might be firing it in the wrong targets...

Brother Mullaway needs our help. Love to see you apply the same force with him in your heart.

I am sorry your work over the years is all trashed. I too am like you with regard to those that make effort to post their grows, legal or not, and Hempy it is a shame.

I can sympathize why you are still trying to prove your point. The thing is Hempy, that your flame is not just hitting the intended. It is hitting us all...

Take care,

CM

P.S. Any T5 blooming thoughts?
 
all bullshit aside, oaksterdam got raided by the feds at 630 this morning. If you want drama, you should go down there. They could use the help. Otherwise, lets get back to growing, eh?
 
Hempy blooms under T5s!?

Hempy, please tell us what the hell that's about. I'm assuming you know something I don't here...what kind of wattage are those fuckers!!?

Fluoro flowering??
 
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