Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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nuteburn said:
Hey bushy :)
Was it kangas "early mullum" or another mullum cross?, please tell more about the Zoidfuel99.


Hi Nuteburn..It was a Mullum ( original ) x White Widow cross, but considering I did that cross in the mid to late 90's and from then on inbred that line and only chose Sativa dominant plants it would be interesting to see how much WW is actually retained over that period of time.
It just goes to show that with proper selection an inbred line can still retain all its vigour and potency over a long period of time.....This line has now been bred to a SSH female and the hybrid vigour of that outcross is insane:D
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KANGA!!!????

Is that really you??

Welcome BacK!!!!!

We've really missed you over here on the Grail Thread,
it just hasn't been the same without you man.
 
Hi All

I have spoken to everybody on pm and asked for all this bs to stop. If it does not I will suspend the user for 2 weeks who antagonises or joins in. Be warned .

I figured on doing so many different things to curb the disrespect on the site by several people, but it seems all the private chats mean nothing.

So people who can not resist to antagonise, join in the name calling and general disrespect as well as insulting, will no longer receive a warning...just a suspension.

If people wish to report to me about any of this then do so in the pm and I will review it before making a decision. Sorry it has come to this but it is now ridiculous and boring for me. I have no other option as you proved this clearly to me.

Noone is immuned of this...we are all equal and therefore MNS justice will now come in the way of suspensions....3 suspension will mean we do not wish to have you on our site any longer and you will be asked to leave.

Hope that is as clear as a bell?

Shantbaba
 
shantibaba said:
Hi All

I have spoken to everybody on pm and asked for all this bs to stop. If it does not I will suspend the user for 2 weeks who antagonises or joins in. Be warned .

I figured on doing so many different things to curb the disrespect on the site by several people, but it seems all the private chats mean nothing.

So people who can not resist to antagonise, join in the name calling and general disrespect as well as insulting, will no longer receive a warning...just a suspension.

If people wish to report to me about any of this then do so in the pm and I will review it before making a decision. Sorry it has come to this but it is now ridiculous and boring for me. I have no other option as you proved this clearly to me.

Noone is immuned of this...we are all equal and therefore MNS justice will now come in the way of suspensions....3 suspension will mean we do not wish to have you on our site any longer and you will be asked to leave.

Hope that is as clear as a bell?

Shantbaba
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Thank you so very much, Shanti, for finally putting an end to the madness. I appreciate you stepping in more than you know, bro!!
 
joshuahazen said:
KANGA!!!????

Is that really you??

Welcome BacK!!!!!

We've really missed you over here on the Grail Thread,
it just hasn't been the same without you man.
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Yeah mate its me....Im just a Junior Kanga these days though...lol

Thanx by the way, I dont know if I will have that great a input into the Grail Thread as it is mostly growing a few crosses out to see what is there.
 
shantibaba said:
Hi All

I have spoken to everybody on pm and asked for all this bs to stop. If it does not I will suspend the user for 2 weeks who antagonises or joins in. Be warned .

I figured on doing so many different things to curb the disrespect on the site by several people, but it seems all the private chats mean nothing.

So people who can not resist to antagonise, join in the name calling and general disrespect as well as insulting, will no longer receive a warning...just a suspension.

If people wish to report to me about any of this then do so in the pm and I will review it before making a decision. Sorry it has come to this but it is now ridiculous and boring for me. I have no other option as you proved this clearly to me.

Noone is immuned of this...we are all equal and therefore MNS justice will now come in the way of suspensions....3 suspension will mean we do not wish to have you on our site any longer and you will be asked to leave.

Hope that is as clear as a bell?

Shantbaba
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It's sad you have to play daddy but I will be glad to get back to the task at hand. Edification and proliferation of the most superb herb. Ban them and block their IP addresses too!
I think you have been lenient long enough. You must have the patience of a saint, I would have lopped heads long ago.
 
im no master breeder, or claim to be something im not. but what i have done is smoke tons of haze back in the early 90s in socal, direct from santa cruz via the surfer network. haha. and i truly feel the haze lies in the oaxacan and thai.

i still have a oaxacan thats strikingly similiar to haze. but... not all the way.
 
i was wondering about that smelling my walkabout which i think may be oaxican.

Its got a very strong peppery smell i guess. But its also similar to the chem4 (which to me is amoniated smelling). I have, and then I was thinking about what Nevil said about the catpiss aromas, and I could see how if the Mexican in the haze was similar how the catpiss smells would come out with inbreeding or back crossing.

And thats assuming the chem4 comes from some sort of Haze cross or some of Nevil's late 80s stock.
 
the oaxacan im holding has a very leathery smell with undertones of rotten fruit and sandalwood. the taste is a full on punch of black licorice. intense and only gets better on the exhale. reminiscent of bubba kush to me, but more full flavored. when i first got her she was crossed with the most rigid and beefy oaxacan male i had, due to her being spindly. the resulting seeds is where i found the mother i have now. i love when i get to chop her. reminds me of when i was a kid. definitely.
 
Ah the Oaxacan.....one of my favourites:D
When I lived in Norcal in the 80's I was lucky enough to sample their Haze, my friends there were very connected to the Santa Cruz boys due to something to do with Thai sticks;)....I even did a cross using the Haze and their Skunk ( my Mendo Girl ). I also brought a clone back from Oaxaca, along with seeds from the same stock used to grow the 500 plants that I saw.
Now the Oaxacan that I have from that era has a sweet piney incense, possible fruity smell and taste.....you would rather just suck on the joint than smoke it because of its flavours. It has a electric, trippy, trance like stone and longlasting.
Now with the Haze, this had the Thai like taste and smell and was common to the sticks I used to smoke here in the 70's and very similar to the Mullum, but not the same trippy high that has, I always refer this to what I call old school.
Now I am not going to say that this is the same haze that has been written about and talked about as I was not around then to compare them both, so I will leave it at that.
I also have not had the chance to sample all the different Mexican strains that are and were around so again no comparision to what you guys are talking about, to what I have......but I do believe that this Oaxacan was very common to what was around during that era, its just that some was excellent and some was just seedy crap.
Remember guys this is just my own personal experience and I am not trying to prove anybody wrong, just a bit of chit ,chat...cheers K
 
Kangativa said:
Ah the Oaxacan.....one of my favourites:D
When I lived in Norcal in the 80's I was lucky enough to sample their Haze, my friends there were very connected to the Santa Cruz boys due to something to do with Thai sticks;)....I even did a cross using the Haze and their Skunk ( my Mendo Girl ). I also brought a clone back from Oaxaca, along with seeds from the same stock used to grow the 500 plants that I saw.
Now the Oaxacan that I have from that era has a sweet piney incense, possible fruity smell and taste.....you would rather just suck on the joint than smoke it because of its flavours. It has a electric, trippy, trance like stone and longlasting.
Now with the Haze, this had the Thai like taste and smell and was common to the sticks I used to smoke here in the 70's and very similar to the Mullum, but not the same trippy high that has, I always refer this to what I call old school.
Now I am not going to say that this is the same haze that has been written about and talked about as I was not around then to compare them both, so I will leave it at that.
I also have not had the chance to sample all the different Mexican strains that are and were around so again no comparision to what you guys are talking about, to what I have......but I do believe that this Oaxacan was very common to what was around during that era, its just that some was excellent and some was just seedy crap.
Remember guys this is just my own personal experience and I am not trying to prove anybody wrong, just a bit of chit ,chat...cheers K
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That oaxaca has me interested kanga ,,
i doubt ive ever tried it ,

interesting that many of us , ,like yourself , and nevil i noted ,
can find similarities to the thai in unconnected strains ,
she sure did the rounds it seems ..
i know we had stuff very similar to haze here ,
in taste and high ,
i sampled some side by side a few weeks ago ,
seemed so similar they could have been sister plants ...

on the nevils haze ,,
now i know the smell everyone has been talking about ,,
after having a toke in a room ,
and leaving it , to return 10 min later or so ,
an intense lingering , insence like aroma is still very much present in the air , still wafting around and teasing ones palate , hehe ..
 
My Son stopped by a bit ago and loaded my bong up and handed it to me. It was his outdoor Maui plant. Im standing there in the kitchen toking down this bong load, and He says" Oh, thats gonna headrush, I set down the bong real fast, and next thing I knew, im on my knees, hands out like a Chameleon, rocking forward and back. I was gone! Everything was buzzzing and tingling and I was elsewhere in my mind.

 
my oaxacans were obtained in 2008 on vacation in the region visiting extended family. they grew the same batch year after year i was told. super dank. only sativa other than c99 that i really like these days.
 
All this talk of Incense without me :D

Kanga

When I lived in Norcal in the 80's I was lucky enough to sample their Haze, my friends there were very connected to the Santa Cruz boys due to something to do with Thai sticks
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These are some great Recollections to note .Im extremly curious to know more about your experience with that Haze .I would have bugged you sooner to knwo more if i knew this LOL.

Its intriguing you say that the haze was similar to Thai an MM .Which if i understand or recall correct would being buddah thai Incense dark type an MM also noted for incense


If you could share anymore detail about that haze it be most appreciated .what year in 80 did you smoke it ?


Donallad

This convo of different strains having traits in common we have discussed abit before in the past an its interesting how plants from extremely different climates an genetics can share similiar traits such as taste/aromas

seems your having some succes with your Nevilles haze ,id love to here more about it an surely wouldnt mind some pics ;)


1luvbigherb
 
Donald Mallard said:
now i know the smell everyone has been talking about ,,
after having a toke in a room ,
and leaving it , to return 10 min later or so ,
an intense lingering , insence like aroma is still very much present in the air , still wafting around and teasing ones palate , hehe ..
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That lingering smell is fantastic huh. When you spark some up at a party it's not long before heads are turning and noses are twitching.

As you say, it's not until you leave and come back again that you get a true appreciation for the wonderful aromas.
 
bigherb said:
All this talk of Incense without me :D

Donallad

This convo of different strains having traits in common we have discussed abit before in the past an its interesting how plants from extremely different climates an genetics can share similiar traits such as taste/aromas

seems your having some succes with your Nevilles haze ,id love to here more about it an surely wouldnt mind some pics ;)


1luvbigherb
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easy to attract your attention there bh , hehe ,,

ill check out see what i can come up with there ,,
gotta take some time and get some nice pics ,,
 
Mark said:
That lingering smell is fantastic huh. When you spark some up at a party it's not long before heads are turning and noses are twitching.

As you say, it's not until you leave and come back again that you get a true appreciation for the wonderful aromas.
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absolutely man ,
really glad to finally be able to appreciate what folks have been on about all this time ,, lol ,
 
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