Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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wake n bake

smoking some more cough, trying to discern some smells and flavors.

It reminds me of old people has that kind of church smell. Like old mothballs and hardwoods. :rolleyes: Not bad, but i find the cough to be very bland when I ever get some.

I wonder how it would compare to Josh's Haze, its got a similar bud structure.
 
bushweed said:
Until Shanti comes on here and confirms that Nevil was the author of that fantasy about him collecting his haze in the US, (an outcome that seems highly unlikely given Nevil's explicit statement that he received his haze from Sam), I think the blame has to rest at the feet of whoever first posted it.

If we can work out who that was, we'll have our culprit.

@bigherb - if as you say Shanti and Nevil have knowingly stated untruths, I think it's important to note that Sam has on a number of occasions given testimony that is inconsistent with what he has elsewhere said.

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Not sure whats the beating around the bush ,no pun inteneded.
Its not if it has been done an you are aware of it .I made that statement an it was not an opinion but fact ,I said it with no harmful or negative nitention but to prove that Hempy is an always has been a liar .

It sis very important which is why Ive noted his contradictions several times in several convos .As you know quite well from visting my Questions for Sams Ohaze thread at Ic .post #843 was directly to Sams actually quoted his post an one of the latest of many times ive spoke an noted his contradictions .



1luvbigherb
 
Now im sure i can find the exact threads but here are some post i saved ,Its evident from his magical way with words ,i didnt make these up

The culprit

Originally Posted by Dalaihempy
I dont get this personaly shanti sed neville got the seeds from the hz brothers now when they say 69 did any one stop and think that infact the seed was made in 69 i dont know when neville collected it or cear personaly what matters to me as a grower is that its infact real haze and the end resolt is what i expect it to be i know neville collected it from the us as i asket as i to read many things that did not add up to me i was told in person and things dont need to be complicated or mytrhical to be fact in the canna world guys
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Originally Posted by hempy

See this is a clasic he says it and it must be true.

Let me explane something big i know for a fact you or BH or others apart from neville shanti and a few others dont know were neville collected the haze from all this posting here is like a fantasy fairy tale.

Do you know how the NYC came into play ?.

I will tell you me and L33 were chatting over at Planet Ganja and we were talking about haze and he from memmory told me the haze neville used came from sam i told him no neville had infact collected pure haze a different haze to sam from with in the us him self and his haze was older and different to sams in short
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The second page of the origins of haze thread says it all, not exactly as he banged on this heavy for years .Two favorite lines of mine

hi british_hempire well neville did collect haze from the us i cant rember the date now but he did not use haze seeds from sam and the haze seed neville collected is the oldest vertion of haze dateing back to 69
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Well shanti knows and so do i as i spoke to shanti about there haze line face to face i was told the story and even names of those neville collected it from what i wont do is repeat it on here thats up to people like neville or shanti to do so if they see fit i my self would not becouse it would only feed those that have an agenda to rubbish and less they know less they can conect the dots.
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He repeats all this in my Ohaze thread at Ic an if i recall an i believe in the grail thread,caz we hadthis discussion /argument sevral times,when I confronted him as to what his intention was in telling us he knew the state source names etc if not to reveal anything


Its all on the net whatever you post you need to remebr what you say caz if one person see's it an saves it you cant change that


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What is wrong with you people honestly its like all you live for is to talk complete shit and to course arguments and division.

Bigherb a guy that is a self proclaimed haze expert that has done what in his time in the canna community ?.

He has demanded smoke reports and smells from people he has never once done a grow post to document or show his plants or has he even produced a single picture.

And now he has the audacity to call out real breeders like shanti and neville and call them liars well bigherb thats just not on mate.

You see bigherb and co minions the haze story as i posted it and as jesse posted on it and as kas posted on it came from shanti who got the story from Neville just like all the other info on the strains Neville worked.

You know whats the funny part here you guys believe oldtimer 1 haze to be real haze yet ot1 has even posted and sed it was not haze and yet nothing has been sed to date and since mr nice co was started all i have seen is people trying to discredit shanti and his work and even Neville.

And some of these people have joined this site soon as Neville joined so its a little odd that in shantis own site this shit is going on and not one member has points it out i have and i am targeted strange no expected.

My advice to you big is shut it and get back to demanding smoke reports and smells from people in there grow posts.
 
he just a wanabee we all no that he just educates himself with the lingo and a couple of strains and makes beleave hes a grower you can tell
 
Seedlings

I took clones of all the seedlings, and Lollipopped them today. They are on 12/12 now. I think the SkunkHazeBlueCrush is a female. I found only one male . It was a selection several years old. Snowbud. There is one female as well



I guess the Headband I grew from seed will be the "Purpur Cut" of Headband :D ;)
 
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Seed tray crosses

Of 27 seeds planted in the seed tray, only 2 have come up. I planted them too soon after harvest. The Maui/Blue died due to my error. There is a Headband/LavenderlightsOrangeCrush seed that has just sprouted. I will do a second planting soon. I have to make sure the seeds are good.
 
i have never intentionally made any seeds so i can get a bit lost in this area, but isn't six months the conventional wait time before germination of a fresh seed? and i have read that refrigeration is used to alter this time frame with some breeders, among other techniques.

this subject of 'haze' that causes so many to argue has many twists and turns in its own right, starting with the definition. so what is haze? around here folks want to argue about some strain nevil sourced from sams. when i visit other sites i encounter talk of a 100% sativa plant called 'haze' that has no known relationship to the hazes found here or elsewhere? and there are many instances of the word 'haze' being used in this fashion. i just visited another breeder site known as kiwi seeds that spoke of this haze in its strains, but i doubt it is the same haze we generally refer to at mns? peace-biteme
 
coop said:
ive never had an issue germinating week old seed.
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Same here. I've had many seeds fall right off the plant and into the hydro that germinated.

Sorry to hear your news Dr.P. I was hoping that by sharing all of my recent failures that all mankind would have 100% germination rates.

Peace.
 
coop said:
some locally grown cough

picked up a little bit still a bit fresh, but set some out to dry up. Just packed the bong and took one hit and man i'm baked

its got that darker haze hue, def more pronounced as it drys but in my estimate this bud was only picked two week ago.
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Beautiful looking stuff Coop.

Can you tell me a little more about it? What is its pedigree? How many days flowering etc?

Thanks.



Jonny Rotten said:
This question goes out to Doc or Hempy, if you dont mind answering. There is at least one of my Mango Haze whose resin irritates my lips and mustache area. I tend to get resin all over my face when Im giving them a big whiff. :D

This is the first time Ive had this happen with a strain before. Did either of you two ever experience such a thing with Mango Haze, and if so, did it bother you to smoke it? I'm a bit concerned about smoking that one if it irritates my lips so much.

Thanks guys.
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Hi JR,

I would take it as a good sign.
My hazes all have that effect, in fact if you don't wash your hands and arms with hot soapy water, right after handling the plants, pruning etc, you will wind up with an itchy rash that looks like a bunch of mosquito bites which will last a couple of hours.
Also, some of the stronger varieties will give you a sneezing fit if you sniff the bag for too long.

Here is one that definitely had that effect:


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Its supposed to be the ole Colorado Cough.

It reputed to be sensi nl5 x haze stock from the late 80s, goes about 14 weeks.
 
biteme said:
i have never intentionally made any seeds so i can get a bit lost in this area, but isn't six months the conventional wait time before germination of a fresh seed? and i have read that refrigeration is used to alter this time frame with some breeders, among other techniques.

this subject of 'haze' that causes so many to argue has many twists and turns in its own right, starting with the definition. so what is haze? around here folks want to argue about some strain nevil sourced from sams. when i visit other sites i encounter talk of a 100% sativa plant called 'haze' that has no known relationship to the hazes found here or elsewhere? and there are many instances of the word 'haze' being used in this fashion. i just visited another breeder site known as kiwi seeds that spoke of this haze in its strains, but i doubt it is the same haze we generally refer to at mns? peace-biteme
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as long as the buds are dryed and cured correctly,the seeds should be ready to rock & roll as well..
 
Ideally, I like to wait around 3 months for the seeds to cure, preferably in paper so they can breathe, but it is fine to plant them earlier if you have too, just expect to get a lower germination rate in many cases.
 
imho..when planted after buds are freshly dried and cured ive only been witness to excellent germination rate as well as explosive plant growth. then again im sure everyones experiences are different.
 
Mango Haze



This Mango turned out tip top shelf quality. Its all Organic.
The colas turned out solid and meaty. Loaded with Trichomes

 
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