Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

[kashrocks]

Hey Kashy stop beating around the bush, your post was directed at me, dont bring other people into this.....now will you put up the Pms or do you want me to. I would like the people of this site to see exactly what I said, not what you make up......fair dont you think ???

Indeed...

Hi Kanga,
Hope life is treating you well.
I have one question after you posted in the grail thread:
Am I also supposed to erase what I posted?
I did not saw my name mentioned in your post so I was wondering.
Peace.
K.

Hi Kash,
Hey mate it really has nothing to do with the names I mentioned as I only used those because they are the people getting attacked the most in this site, by other people and amongst themselves......Jesse really took that completely out of text as my intentions were never to discredit them. You know that Hempy and I are good friends and I would never do that to him.
Anyway back to your question....I was asking everyone to delete anything that said something about someone else as it would be a shame to ruin a good thread with what I call bickering.
Anyway Ill leave it up to you, but even Nev is pissed off with the way the Grail and Haze threads went.
Ok mate hope all is good with you...Stay well..K

Hi,
There is only one person who can make me delete my posts and it is Shanti.
Now you know...
Peace.
K.

No worries mate ..each to their own.
Doesnt really matter anymore really as Nev and I have decided to take the Grail somewhere else where it can be documented without any of the crap that has infested this one......as in Nev's words The bastard's put my cake out in the rain, now they can eat it.
Ok thats it for me.....Stay well....K

Why havent you said to b_h to stop insulting the others....is b_h such an important person that none of you is able to make him shut his big mouth....I really dont understand.
It was not very clever too to choose as your reprezentative a guy who dissed Scott and Nev for years and who bullied Jesse and Hempy everywhere. We would have accepted BH if he had at least shown some respect to those who were there well before him and who had to fight all the trolls who were hating Scott because of his connection with Nev. I even stated that online several times.
Isn't it possible to find a third way where Bh would stop his insults to senior members which would cause the end of the "bickerings" like you call them?
Can't we find a solution to this specific problem without having to see you leave the forum?
It would really be a sad move if you decided to leave...but if that was the case please do not forget to take BH with you.
Peace.
K.

Hi Kash.....Hey mate I dont really have anything to do with BH except grow what he has sent or Nevil has asked for and that applies for anything else that has come from someone. I chat with Jim O sometimes and Of coures Shanti, but my only real contact is with Hempy and Moosey.
I came to these forums to join with what I thought was like minded people and as far as what has happened in the past I really dont care. I have always had the faith that people can change from bad to better. I dont go looking for lies that people have told to make a point or help me understand that person.
I maybe should have worded my post a bit better the other day, but I didnt and that caused Jesse who I thought as a friend to attack me.....it came at a very bad time as I had just had a tragedy in the family and with all the shit that has been going on in this site, has made me realize I am just better off going back to the quiet unknown I was used to.
I guess it all boils down to one thing and that is I just cant handle seeing so many people out there that love growing this plant argue with each other and it really doesnt give me much hope of there ever being a unity amongst growers like the old days.
So mate sorry to dissapoint you but BH is here to stay
Ok mate I am sure we will chat back and forth, until then stay well...K

Dear KAnga,
I never asked that BH been banned only that someone talk to him so he stops disrepecting other MNS members.
So you are staying and your pm was in reality just a trick to push me to erase my posts....
Seems like after all Nev still wants his cake even if it rained on it ....
For my part I think that if you re not ready to order to Bh to keep it quiet with other respected MNS members then you should take away your "grail" thread to another place...maybe Icmag would be a good alternative for you.
All the members should be treated equally on both side of the streets.
Just my two bits.
Peace.
K.

I am in shock.....I can now see that both you and Jesse are very bad judges of a persons character.
You have completely misread my PM and turned it on its head, same as Jesse did with my post and both of you attack me with no reason what so ever.
Anyway it seems you have got your wishes and BH has gone....and it was no doing of mine as I would never wish that on anyone.
The Grail is not going to IC you can be sure of that, but it is not staying here either, nor am I as I said before.....so it appears now that all the people who donated things for the Grail have all gone or no longer wish to be part of this community, sad really as it attracted alot of people.
Stay well Kash.

Listen Kanga,
Once you tell me you re leaving, then not, then again that you leave...
But everybody assures me that Nevil is staying.
What is all the fuss about?
Peace.
K.

Peace.

K.

 

[kashrocks]

Hi Kanga,

You could please explain why you systematically let Hempy being attacked by trolls when he is in fact supposed to be a good friend of yours?

Or why you let Orangutang aka british _hempire rubbish Shanti's work?

Thanx.

Peace.

K.

Now can you answer my questions???

Peace.

K.

 

[Kangativa]

Indeed...





















Peace.

K.

Well done Kashy ....so where does it say I am taking it and Nevil to another website ???
Where do I threaten you ???
where do I say could you delete what you say about BH.

 

[picklez]

Lol this is a crackup...

As anyone who cares knows; Im a bystander in all this. People read what they want to read and interpret it individually. This is not a conversation in real time where you can continuously clarify yourself. It is easy to take offence at anything, however it says more about you than the supposed offender.

 

[kashrocks]

Well done Kashy ....so where does it say I am taking it and Nevil to another website ???
Where do I threaten you ???
where do I say could you delete what you say about BH.

Nev and I have decided to take the Grail somewhere else

I never said you threatened me...lol

Only that you threatened to take away the Grail thread.

Peace.

K.

 

[Kangativa]

I never said you threatened me...lol

Only that you threatened to take away the Grail thread.

Peace.

K.

Hey Kashy I never threatened you with anything I told you it was being taken away.

"Doesnt really matter anymore really as Nev and I have decided to take the Grail somewhere else where it can be documented without any of the crap that has infested this one...... "

Well will you look at that no mention of a website..

Do you know where it is Kash, it's amongst friends and people who only have good input and no crap

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Hi all,
Lets get back on topic pls.
I for one am interested in the progress of the grail and other fine crosses that could emerge out of this thread.
Pls share yr wisdom and fine experiences here and try to keep the bad vibes out of the picture. It's only numbing the minds of all of us.
Let's concentrate on the reason why all of us are here.
The love for the herb.
Good luck and stay safe.
YS

 

[sativaXindica]

Nev and I have decided to take the Grail somewhere else where it can be documented without any of the crap that has infested this one...... "

Kanga, this is real disheartning to hear. I for one am real interested in what comes out of searching for the GRAIL of Haze hybrids. We all should be more then honered that someone like Nev would want our input on this Grail project.

When I decided to join this forum it wasn't because this was the first to pop up on google. I "trolled" around forums for a year or so and then recently in May, after much consideration, I decide that MR. NICE would be my go to forum.

Not too many members, more intimate, and by far the most experienced and knowledgeable growers on the web. And we are fortuanate to have breeders like Shantibaba and Nevil just a mouse click away.

Now I'm wondering where this quest for the Grail went. Another forum? Or is it behind closed doors like every other wanna be breeder.

Keep it here. Please. Some of us ignore the bull shit and focus on the plant. The original reason we came to MNS.

Peace

sativaXindica

 

[biteme]

well, i'll talk to you about the grail yosemite sam!! more than once i have heard oaxaca mentioned as a potential grail ingredient. as a young man, i spent a bit of time down there and it was a beautiful part of mexico but it makes one wonder just what sort of changes those genetics went through and what is left of them? the cartels are firmly in charge now and that includes what is being grown. it is anyone's guess but it raises questions as the original product did not yield that well. peace-biteme

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Im Easy

'Know it sounds funny but I just can't stand the pain,


Girl, I'm leavin' you tomorrow,

Seems to me girl you'know I've done all I can,

You see I've beg, stole and I've borrowed.

It's why I'm easy ..... easy like Sunday mornin'.

Why in the world would anybody put chains on me, yeah,

I've paid my dues to make it,

Everybody wants me to be what they want me to be,


I'm not happy when I try to fake it,

It's why I'm easy ..... easy like Sunday mornin'.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

This one is named Polypurebread

LOL. Im pullin legs here.

Anyway, I did not make this strain. My Oldest Son talked it out of a Humboldt grower a few months ago. It is supposed to be real good. There was one stipulation, which I will comply. This strain is named Miss Confidential. I am in compliance now, and with that said, you will notice that the subject has Sativa traits as well.






I forgot to tell you what it is. It has MNS Genetics in it too.

She is: Mr Nice/Mango Haze/PK Kush/Flo Purple/LA Confidential.

I dont think I showed you guys before because she has some Indica and purple genes as well. But She might be Hazey too.

 

[Donald Mallard]

loving your backyard dr ,
nice work ...

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Thanks Don

The big one center to the right is LA Conf Mom/ Pollinated by an Oxacan Dad. I accidently topped her when I was doing a supercrop pinch.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

Heres one of the Blue Crush

This one has Sativa (California Orange) in it, but shows some Indica tendencies. I love this plant. Site-un-smoked. I fuckin love it. This is the powernap plant. I love this stuff. It has Kush, Sativa, and some unknown Blue plant from Humboldt in it. (LS1)




It has a special medicinal use that we all would probably love. One big bongload, after a days work, lay back on the recliner, and it will put you out and right into about 20-30 minutes of relaxing rejuvinating REM sleep. A real quick power nap. Then you awake refreshed, and happy, with renewed energy. We love this plant. We also have a full on LS1. The very last one. You will see it. You will see blue buds like youve probably never seen before. ( The full LS1 Is a tad more narcotic.)

 

[jack hairy]

awesome, i was starting to wonder if you had it pure or only in crosses. well, maybe it will only be in crosses from here on out. i was actually wondering if you had the ls1 and orange crossed together without the salmon creek and something else you mentioned. but of course, you do, you seem to have everything!

maybe some ls1 genes should work thier way to shanti, the world could use a new blue strain.

 

[Dr. Purpur]

awesome, i was starting to wonder if you had it pure or only in crosses. well, maybe it will only be in crosses from here on out. i was actually wondering if you had the ls1 and orange crossed together without the salmon creek and something else you mentioned. but of course, you do, you seem to have everything!

maybe some ls1 genes should work thier way to shanti, the world could use a new blue strain.

Dont worry about the Salmon Creek. That wasnt from seed. It was the original Red tagged Salmon Creek Big Bud clone from years ago, that was known as the only true big bud that was True Top Shelf.

The Orange Crush is trully an Orange Kush in behavior. Thats others opinions as well. The Orange Crush was made in Humboldt years ago as well.

These seeds were old when we got them 6 or so years ago. They had made Orange Crush out of the best Blueberry they could find.

The California Orange they had was superb. Champagne. It seems like a Kush Sativa cross. As for the LS1: Nobody knows. The flavor is distinct and different. wonderful.

It will be pollinated with both Nevilles Haze (2 males) and a Mango Haze male.

A little Blue Haze anyone?

 

[eastbayray]

G`day YS ,Doc Purps ,

I know you guys have extensive expirience with NVL`s Haze .
Here`s a thread close to Hempy`s heart .

Nevilles Haze X Everything.... lol .
Nevilles Haze X Everything.... - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

Did someone say Polyhybrid !??

Thanks for sharin

Elmer Bud .

Chaco is my new hero. I want to have his babies

 

[eastbayray]

Indeed.

He's unleashing the potential for sure, and more importantly, he's having fun doing it.

 

[Beanz]

Hey Kashy I never threatened you with anything I told you it was being taken away.

"Doesnt really matter anymore really as Nev and I have decided to take the Grail somewhere else where it can be documented without any of the crap that has infested this one...... "

Well will you look at that no mention of a website..

Do you know where it is Kash, it's amongst friends and people who only have good input and no crap

That's really sad to hear, but I can't say I blame him...
After all the bullshit about JF and Cabron and EA... All this shit about outing and serious personal attacks against him... it's really not surprising. Who wants to put up with that shit...?

Someone said that if all it takes is some harsh words on the internet for nevil to dissapear, then he's a pussy.
But that's easy to say when you are just a screen name on an internet forum with nothing of yours out there to be criticized.
Nevil is a counter-culture celebrity with an extrodinary life story and a library of work, all of which is public, that can be scrutinized.
Imagine you create something as intimate as your own crossbreed. Life of your own creation.
You spend years of your life, challenging authority and gambling with your freedom to create something you can call your own. Finally you finish it, and present it to the world.
You couldn't help but feel defensive if someone criticized it. Some of you can't even take general criticisms like "hey you should raise that light a few inches..."
I know those of you with kids understand how nev would feel.
I understand nev isn't a perfect person. Anyone who thinks they are needs their head examined.

Why would nevil continue a thread he started, on a site where he isn't wanted by a lot of the members? I sure as hell wouldn't stick around either. It's truly sad for the people who enjoyed his presence and input like myself. No matter what he'll always be one of my top two breeders along side Shanti. A tie for first.

 

[sativaXindica]

Don't worry Beanz, I say we just continue along with the search and disregard any bull shit that may get flung around. Dr. Purpur is on a good path. Got some really nice work going on Doc.

I'm sure if we all just stopped the insults and ingnore the scrutiny, Nevil might come back. If he see's a valiant effort to keep a focused conversation about the Grail, then he may see just how many members are intrigued of his work and join in the chat.

At least I hope so.

Peace

sativaXindica