Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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those plants are beautiful !
what kind of organic bloom ferts will you use ?
i'm very interested with organic bloom ferts ? do you know some others that you will not use ?
thanks
 
Winter2010

I went through my notes to see what seeds I had made last winter, I couldnt just look at the packets , as many seeds are still in labeled buds.
Anyway, heres what I made.

Real McCoy/VietnamBlackThai

Real McCoy/Oaxacan

Real McCoy/SalmonCreek/Orange Crush/Mexican

Real McCoy/Mango Haze

Dr. Grinspoon/VietnamBlackThai

GreenHazeThai/VietnamBlackThai

SweetTooth/Oaxacan

SweetTooth/VietnamBlackThai

GreenHazeThai/Oaxacan

GreenHazeThai/Mango Haze

GreenHazeThai/Nevilles Haze

Royal Haze/VietnamBlackThai

Royal Haze/Mango Haze

Royal Haze/Oaxacan

Royal Haze/Nevilles Haze

Nevilles Haze/VietnamBlackThai

SuperSilverHaze/Oaxacan

SuperSilverHaze/VietnamBlackThai

SuperSilverHaze/Nevilles Haze

SuperSilverHaze/Mango Haze

Tikal/Oaxacan

Tikal/VietnamBlackThai

Tikal/Nevilles Haze

Tikal/Mango Haze

Maui Wowi/Oaxacan

Maui Wowi/VietnamBlackThai

Maui Wowi/Nevilles Haze

Maui Wowi/SalmonCreek/Orange Crush/Mexican

Maui Wowi/Mango Haze

Panama/VietnamBlackThai

Panama/Oaxacan

Panama/Mango Haze

Mango/SalmonCreek/Orange Crush/Mexican

Mango/Oaxacan

Mango/VietnamBlackThai

Mango/Nevilles Haze2

VietnamBlackThai/Nevilles Haze2

VietnamBlackThai/SalmonCreek/Orange Crush/Mexican

VietnamBlackThai/Oaxacan

VietnamBlackThai/Mango Haze

LA Confidential/SalmonCreek/Orange Crush/Mexican

LA Confidential/Mango Haze

LA Confidential/Nevilles Haze2

LA Confidential/Oaxacan

and a half dozen others



Currently working with some older Humboldt strains from seed, never available from seed companies to my knowledge. And of course Headband,LA Conf, OG Kush, Sour Diesel,and GDP, and of course, Nevilles Haze1, and Mango Haze, and Panama. and Maui2
 
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Dr. Purpur said:
Currently working with some older Humboldt strains from seed, never available from seed companies to my knowledge.
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Are those the humboldt seeds you posted shots of a few months back?


What kind of germ rate did you get off of them?
Thanks for the update, sounds like a lot of wicked crosses.
 
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joshuahazen said:
Are those the humboldt seeds you posted shots of a few months back?


What kind of germ rate did you get off of them?
Thanks for the update, sounds like a lot of wicked crosses.
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I think I got around 50% on the older seeds. I got most of the plants I needed. My son got a real nice maple leaf, We think its female. Real old seed. The LS1 is very old, very blue, very tip top shelf, and we dont think its related to Blueberry. Also from old Humboldt seed crosses, Lavender Lights. I got one plant. And one plant of (Blueberry x Cali Orange) x Salmon Creek Big Bud clone) X LS1 (Blue Money):D

Im having fun. I hope You Guys are too.
 
Dr. Purpur said:
I think I got around 50% on the older seeds. I got most of the plants I needed. My son got a real nice maple leaf, We think its female. Real old seed. The LS1 is very old, very blue, very tip top shelf, and we dont think its related to Blueberry. Also from old Humboldt seed crosses, Lavender Lights. I got one plant. And one plant of (Blueberry x Cali Orange) x Salmon Creek Big Bud clone) X LS1 (Blue Money):D

Im having fun. I hope You Guys are too.
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Awesome, I'm having a blast!
(Cough, Cough...)


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(HHG Haze)



50%?
That is great, how old are those seeds?

What is LS1?
 
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Awesome, I'm having a blast!
(Cough, Cough...)


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(HHG Haze)



50%?
That is great, how old are those seeds?

What is LS1?
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Nice lookin Haze. Id like fat bong hit of that one! :)

We aquired most of those seeds 6 years ago, but they were not fresh at the time. They came from 2 different Old growers way way back in the woods.

One of My Sons spent a day on the property, and the grower was impressed with my Sons knowledge of growing. He kept bringing out seeds for My Son from drawers all over his house. Some were cradled in big buds.

That evening as my Son was leaving, the guy got out a fairly large vacuum pack of seeds. He had a few of them hidden away. SOS pack.He made the SOS vaclock packs , in case he got raided and had to start over. He said dont open this till your ready to use them. There is a packing slip taped to the outside, detailing every pack(as much as is known on some) and container of seeds within.

Many of the seeds were old Humboldt strains, with some in bulks of 300-500. There were also many 5, 10 and 15 seed packs from seed companies.From back in the day. I dont know how old they are, but we have gotten real good quality from them. We havnt grown even half of the varieties yet

LS1: The grower said there was one strain in there that would grow the Bluist blue weed you have ever seen.He said it looked like a fake plastic color it was so blue. His Wife grew it in the greenhouse and didnt know what it was. It is not from a seed company.

There were approximately 2000 seeds in the SOS pack. I shit bricks when My Son brought them home. We had fun going through the packing slips, and even more fun growing them.
 
DR purpur

Thanks for keepin the thread alive an quest for a Grail Kickin

Im at it once again with my search for frankincense ,hopfully this november will be good to us

Those pics are Great everything looks real healthy those mago haze look quite vigorous .I really love the Indica from humboldt it looks special Im posted for a smoke report on that in the future .

Your list is quite impressive these below really got my interest

Panama/Oaxacan GreenHazeThai/Nevilles Haze VietnamBlackThai/Nevilles Haze2


Id love to see some of those plants of old humboldt seed your son has growing ,you know the sayin the student is becomes better than the teacher .I can only imagine the greenthumb he inherited


1luvbigherb
 
There are some other seeds Im waiting to aquire. They are 25 years old. One of My buddies has them in storage. they are lost. I gave them to him in the 1980s, from a strain that was produced in 1978.

The seeds came from Lebanon and Afghanistan and were collected from the best hash districts in 1976 or 1977. The Red Lebanese may have been either a Sativa or a Kush, with strong citrus flavors of Tangerine,and lime, Some of the Afghanis seemed to have Lemon. The Afghanis were deadly strong,and a clean high, and the Red Leb was uplifting and thought provoking.

My old Hippie buddy that made the cross, won every harvest festival in the Placerville area every year. Probably 15 years. He made enough to build a mansion on the ocean in Oregon, and somehow lost the strain some years ago. I still have hopes of ressurecting that strain. I have a few ideas what may work to get them sprouted, as long as they are viable at all
 
My regret

bigherb said:
Im at it once again with my search for frankincense ,hopfully this november will be good to us
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I really regret not asking Dennis (Perron)to see if there were any seeds in the bottom of of some of the many pounds bags of Cambodian Red. I kind of think there is nothing like that anymore.

I was seeing colors. Everything turned a redish pink color. It tasted like the best incense , you couldnt even imagine.

The room (Big Top Imports, polk street, San,francisco,1977) was filled with smoke. The best real Columbian Gold that was yellower then hay, fat Thai sticks, and Buddha sticks, all kinds of foriegn hash, of all colors.

I could see at least 50 pounds of awesome top quality bud from other countries all around me. None was domestic. Fat tester bomber joints going around, one after another. Then came the Cambodian Red. I could smell it through everything else, 6 feet away.

This girl, that was a dude, standing next to me says, here comes the best one of all.:D
 
Dr. Purpur said:
I really regret not asking Dennis (Perron)to see if there were any seeds in the bottom of of some of the many pounds bags of Cambodian Red. I kind of think there is nothing like that anymore.

I was seeing colors. Everything turned a redish pink color. It tasted like the best incense , you couldnt even imagine.

The room (Big Top Imports, polk street, San,francisco,1977) was filled with smoke. The best real Columbian Gold that was yellower then hay, fat Thai sticks, and Buddha sticks, all kinds of foriegn hash, of all colors.

I could see at least 50 pounds of awesome top quality bud from other countries all around me. None was domestic. Fat tester bomber joints going around, one after another. Then came the Cambodian Red. I could smell it through everything else, 6 feet away.

This girl, that was a dude, standing next to me says, here comes the best one of all.:D
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I truly love hearing that story ,I only Wish i could have had been there


It Reminds me of the opinion of my family an friends in my area .We have smoked many strains of high quality Name an no name but when we speak of the best Frankies is whats always brought up.


I have 2 colombian Gold growing out which are suppose to be authentic ,i hope to Come across Our beloved trait an if possible i will make seeds


1luvbigherb
 
then i have to ask hempy, what do you propose dr purpur so with these strains once he acquires them? he has the strain already in ibl or perhaps even landrace, so he makes f2s and preservation accomplished and then what? i do not know enough about breeding to chart a proper course of action but it seems others have concluded that the grail will be found in a hybrid of some sorts. to this end, it will interesting to see what comes from some of those crosses the doc has made? peace-biteme
 
the way i see it, you never know until you make the seeds and start them up.
and that is a lot of possibilities there for some really special stuff.
 
Tom Hill Haze

Right now I am growing some old school Tom Hill Haze. Boy, talk about a small amount! I can see why people cross it with other things. SSH and Mango Haze are the bomb. I am chopping Mango Haze right now and I am happy with the amount I am getting. Some are smaller than others but way better than just haze. I will probably grow a crop of just haze to get a descent amount if my wife likes it but honestly I can't see doing it otherwise with such good products from MNS ready to go. I have clones of the flowering Mango, clones of the SSH, a clone of the Toms Haze, a clone of the Black Window/Haze I made and I have 7 NL5/Haze seedlings. My wife hasn't tried any of the product I am growing yet as I just started this year but I know my wife likes Mango Haze already and SSH. Surely one of these could suffice as the Ultimate Haze, don't you think? I know you guys know more than I do but these are pretty good compared to straight haze.
 
Hempy makes a good point,
but if they are crossed to more of a landrace then its actually a good idea.
two f1's will make poly hybrids but an f1 x ibl or landrace is more of a top cross and a good idea for testing for specific combining ability.
 
doobie413 said:
does anybody no about this bigherb careicter some people on icmag think hes a narco hes always asking people thier real personal questions and for pic but never shares his experinces so what does antone no here on mns i followed him here from ic things have happened there that makes us suspisous
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You don't know my name don't say it

Watch ya mouth ,Don't ever associate me in that light .

This is a first I ever heard on any accusation of that an oi always said anyone has aproblem with me let me know .No one at IC gave me any probs except Mr hill .

You follow me an I'm da bird ur a Troll n we don't need another here .

If u actually follow my u will see I've had more than one smoke report n notes on a comparison grow .But ur intentions r obvious n this is ur 2nd post.

I've got love from several Respected breeder in this community

My name will be Remember n always associated WITH HAZE


Sooo fukk offf
 
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