Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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Peace.

K.
 
You know elmer and johnny your both low forms of life i deleted all my posts and yet i am still getting the knives driven into my back what do you guys have to gain by talking complete shit here i will tell you an angry replie from me and i have every right to replie to such shit you elmer are a low form of life and of all people you shit on me and i did what to you ?.

Should i post here elmer what i did for you and you treat me like this ha ? I have all pms saved to very very sad indeed.


What kanga meant about hempy was right is about the cannabis community of today and how what we grew up in is not represented on line here or on others boards.

I told him how people will never find unity or a common goal as its an ego fest and greed fest with little loyalty and thats the sad reality of it.

I am not an angry man or am i a violent man but i take no shit from no one or should i have to and i believe in honesty and value it.

You think i am wrong about the canna community take a look at this and other posts all over the net.

Jesse me and kas have been targets of set people for years the same people also targeted Neville and Shanti but now because there supporting Neville there okay but still treat the rest like shit i see well old dogs dont Lorne new tricks do they they just get more sneaky.

Kanga do your thing mate ignore or try to ignore people you dont see eye to eye with and rember for every bad one theres a good one that is what keeps me here and many other people here..

I am so over this will not post in here ever agine i dont care how much bull shit any of you talk any more.

Why am I a low form of life? I didn't insult you in my previous posts in any way to be called that. Did you miss that I said, "Its water under the bridge"?

I have no problems with you Hempy. If you see problems persisting between us, then they are in your eyes only. I could have joined up with other people and attacked you in this thread, but I never did because I have no problem with you.

I would like our past to stay in the past if possible. What do you say?
 
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Revival of the Ultimate Sativa Thread - Page 384 - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums

post #5753 aswella s pics on page 378 post #5666

Keyplay Cblack an Gold stock were mentioned recently. Id lov to hear more detail in fprm of a smoke report :D .I think they deserve some attention .IMO from pics posted an info reported the Keyplay stock seem to be more sativa than BSC Cgold .It seems there will be a few reports droppin around new years lol

Bushy

and this ones for bigherb - don't worry about fruity grail - this a cross of Kanga's that I call Mango Incense - what I think was a cross of MM x Oaxacan, that smelt like ripe Mangoes, but tasted like Sandalwood and Frankincense...I smoked some that had been in and out of a jar for six months when I first met Nev and he thought it was NL5Hz


Sic pics as always,i recall you reported this cross for me MMMMM

I appreciate you bringing some calm to my concern ,Im very curious as I didnt get a specific answer when Nevil was here as to the path of taste n aromas .I understand that that Oxacan is fruity an it was somthing he loved .I was just hopin that the ultimate haze hybrid would be in the same fashion as his Legendary NL5Hz you mention above n the Nevilles haze which is my opinion/experience is the closest thing ive tasted to uptowns nyc haze not from uptown .

Now with Kariba surprise ,Nevilles haze ,MM , Cgold all holding this trait i holdvery close to my heart i have very high hopes .But im not sure which path will be chosen


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Cerunnos...of course mate:)

That's quite a bounty there Bushy, bounty on the hill. Looks like you've had a deep communion with the plants and the land. Very inspiring thing you got going on there mate, it starts to make a man think.


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How's the harvest celebration mate?(insert smiley face here) What's on the Bushweed menu? Are those Mango Hz the early finishing female you had?

Hey, that Mullum Mullum x how tall and big did that get? Questions, questions, questions.

Would you be able to elaborate a bit on that plant? What was that plants characteristics? That was a smaller plant I remember you saying. Do you know the reason Kanga crossed two Mullums for that cross? Heloo Kanga, are ye aboot, please feel free to chime in if you feel for it, you're a diplomat mate. What your good self and Bushy do and have been doin is really inspiring and I'm sure all here on the boards would possibly and most likely feel very similarly. Only someone with big dickhead blinkers on might come to another conclusion. Both of you have helped me to see clearly what I wish to do.

You know, I've been reading through this thread everyday as I am another like everyone else. There's been a bit of shit flyin around on this thread particularly. There's some strong energy shit going on with the planet and on the planet, we get house cleaning to do. Shadow shit. Sometimes it's painful and too much fire comes out of us, things get spoken too soon and then you feel shit with yourself. Your feel your energy drop down. Anger, grief, anger grief and the booby prize guilt. It takes alot of energy that shit, tireing.

I thought something before about Nevil (pleasant regards to you mate if your reading), the good man Nevil created this thread in a certain spirit and with an intention. What is a Grail? Could you say a cup containing some energy? In this case it's plants and plant combinations holding a certain energy. It has a synergy of energy to it. If the current state of this thread is a limb of the grail it's as wobbly as fuck.

With Regard to Nev, he know’s what’s going on and he’s got it goin on. We get another go to be respectful to him. There's a reason he hasn't come back here and I'm not a gambling man but on this one I'd make a bet why he hasn't. I couldn't help but to think this infighting (for want of another word) especially on this thread is disrespectful of him, doesn't take much sensitivity to realise that.. The ball been dropped, time to pick it and smile that we're alive at this most interesting time. Many people turn into hideous creatures with their lust for ego fame money and prestige. Nev is not one of them and like wise Shanti. Jah bless them. Many of these hideous creatures are afoot in this day and age infecting shit with or without knowing it. Bob Melamede would say they need cannabinoids as they are deficient of them.

I got given some weed today and tonight I smoked a pretty straight joint (added a tiny bit of leaf) before posting this (added a tiny bit of leaf). It had that typical not very special Melbourne smell, it was rough smoking for a bit and I thought too much chlorophyll. A little into the experience my heart started beating faster and harder and some of my body started to shake. I backed off from finishing the joint but as some kind of time has dissapeared I'm gonna go back for a bit more of the waccy weed.

A drunk man looks at the thistle
A stoned man stares at the computer screen.

I'm not pissin on anyones parade herre I've got my rough edges as well I'm just speaking out loud interacting with the weed and sharing with yeall


All the best to everyone here. It's always been a challenge for the people to live together but we get lots of opportunity. That's what I saw Kanga was presenting in his post. It's easy to see the man's as humble as they come. Good shit puts a smile on my face.

Live and let live.

Cern

The worlds slowest post.
 
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You know, I've been reading through this thread everyday as I am another like everyone else. There's been a bit of shit flyin around on this thread particularly. There's some strong energy shit going on with the planet and on the planet, we get house cleaning to do. Shadow shit. Sometimes it's painful and too much fire comes out of us, things get spoken too soon and then you feel shit with yourself. Your feel your energy drop down. Anger, grief, anger grief and the booby prize guilt. It takes alot of energy that shit, tireing.

I thought something before about Nevil (pleasant regards to you mate if your reading), the good man Nevil created this thread in a certain spirit and with an intention. What is a Grail? Could you say a cup containing some energy? In this case it's plants and plant combinations holding a certain energy. It has a synergy of energy to it. If the current state of this thread is a limb of the grail it's as wobbly as fuck.

With Regard to Nev, he know’s what’s going on and he’s got it goin on. We get another go to be respectful to him. There's a reason he hasn't come back here and I'm not a gambling man but on this one I'd make a bet why he hasn't. I couldn't help but to think this infighting (for want of another word) especially on this thread is disrespectful of him, doesn't take much sensitivity to realise that.. The ball been dropped, time to pick it and smile that we're alive at this most interesting time. Many people turn into hideous creatures with their lust for ego fame money and prestige. Nev is not one of them and like wise Shanti. Jah bless them. Many of these hideous creatures are afoot in this day and age infecting shit with or without knowing it. Bob Melamede would say they need cannabinoids as they are deficient of them.

I got given some weed today and tonight I smoked a pretty straight joint (added a tiny bit of leaf) before posting this (added a tiny bit of leaf). It had that typical not very special Melbourne smell, it was rough smoking for a bit and I thought too much chlorophyll. A little into the experience my heart started beating faster and harder and some of my body started to shake. I backed off from finishing the joint but as some kind of time has dissapeared I'm gonna go back for a bit more of the waccy weed.

A drunk man looks at the thistle
A stoned man stares at the computer screen.

I'm not pissin on anyones parade herre I've got my rough edges as well I'm just speaking out loud interacting with the weed and sharing with yeall


All the best to everyone here. It's always been a challenge for the people to live together but we get lots of opportunity. That's what I saw Kanga was presenting in his post. It's easy to see the man's as humble as they come. Good shit puts a smile on my face.

Live and let live.

Cern

The worlds slowest post.

I Like this! ;)
YS
 
One of the little side projects I had been working on before I got bust was some crosses using a very nice male from a Mexican line to a few females. The Mexican side is a hybrid of a Highland Oaxacan Gold female pollinated by a Highland Oaxacan Gold x Bubblegum male, making it 75% Oaxacan genes.

A male was selected from the HOG x (HOG x BGum) crop and his pollen was applied to some females, one being a Jamaican x (Jamaican x Flo) female.

The Jamaican x (Jamaican x Flo) was selected for Jamaican traits and it's great berry/hash/Turkish Delight taste/smell.

Here is a (Jamaican x (Jamaican x Flo)) x (HOG x (HOG x BGum)) by young_gibby_team, 4 weeks of 12/12, the large leaves with many blades are characteristic of the Mexican mother but the high resin coverage and purple colouring on the leaves is from the Jamaican.

I know some people are interested in Mexicans, the Oaxacan that went into that one is the same one I used in some other crosses, the PurpleMexThai Kanga has being one of them, so I figured you might be interested to see some more hybrids of it.
 

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No problem jack, credit goes to young gibby, he's doing a lovely job with her.
 
I darn near lived off of Highland Oaxacan Gold while in college. The son of the Dean had a very large crate of it. It was the Dean's first year at the college and previous to that he had been the head of the department of archeology at either USC or UCLA, it's been to many decades to remember which, and his last dig was in Mexico, in Oaxaca, and his son went with and managed to purchase a very large quantity of Highland Oaxacan Gold and put it in a large crate stenciled with the college name and department. In that era things like that were seldom if ever inspected and it made it over the border without a second glance. My friend kept myself and a few other friends supplied with as much as we would smoke, all for free.
 
You lucky sod, proper Oaxacan is always killer...



A silly, but funny to me, story that goes with the Highland Oaxacan Gold is connected to how it is pronounced, Wahahkan ... which to stoner college kids was close enough to Mohican that during my senior year on a long holiday weekend when myself and most of my friends stayed at college rather than go home and we partied the whole time and played Hearts until someone reached 1,000 points we finally ran out of Highland Oaxacan Gold.... and we had a little stoner ceremony for 'The Last of the Wahahkan."
 
A silly, but funny to me, story that goes with the Highland Oaxacan Gold is connected to how it is pronounced, Wahahkan ... which to stoner college kids was close enough to Mohican that during my senior year on a long holiday weekend when myself and most of my friends stayed at college rather than go home and we partied the whole time and played Hearts until someone reached 1,000 points we finally ran out of Highland Oaxacan Gold.... and we had a little stoner ceremony for 'The Last of the Wahahkan."

hahahaha. yeah the first time i smoked Oaxacan it was called "mohican" as well. it was also greenish, so at the time (late seventies) I was very dubious that it could be any good as the only green weed i'd seen before this was ditch weed i'd harvested in rural Minnesota. I was very wrong LOL. I remember at the time i had a "grass mask" with a bowl that you could stuff about 2 35mm film canisters into. so of course we did.... :p Soooooo high :D BTW, just for Bricktop, this was in the courtyard of Baron Von Raske's apartment.

Ah the teen years :D
 
Ahem, I know who Baron Van Raschke is too, although I preferred guys like Harley Race, Bruiser Brody and Terry Funk...

I was born too late, I would have been in my element in the 70s watching Harley and Funk battle for the NWA title, listening to CCR , Stones and Zeppelin while smoking Mexican and Colombian and Thai...

Sadly by the 80s when I was growing up it had become Hulk Hogan, steroids, sports entertainment, shitty new romantic and electronic pop music and the War on Drugs took the best import away....

I didnt know how to pronounce 'Oaxacan' until I met a Guatemalan toker in Holland who told me. Before that I was pronouncing it 'o-ax-a-can' lol

young gibby team updated with some 5 weeks pics of his plant, he says even his non-smoking son says it smells incredibly nice.

Just think, if an amateur like me with a 400 in a cupboard can make something nice out of the Oaxacan, imagine what pros like Nev and Kanga could do with a good Oaxacan...

Not for nothing did Highland Oaxacan Gold become legendary...
 

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wasn't trying ace you out BH, i had just had a few conversations with BT about BVR, Vern Gagne and Mad Dog Vachon at another site. The only Gibby I know is this guy
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Looks allot like Mango Haze feeder leaves. Real wide thumb and pinkie, like it's trying to play an octave on a piano. The red leaf stem too:


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She's gorgeous, BH. Can you describe her seeds for me?
 
But they are out of focus.

Heres a OG Kush Plant. Its a clone from Honeydew California, in Humboldt. Its a fuckin bitch to grow it. It lags behind the other plants in veg, then when it buds, the branches arent strong enough to support the heavy buds, and they flop all over.
But.... Its some of My favorite smoke on the planet. Its all stash.

Doc, from what you grow that must be some kind herb, my brother!! Big props to ya!!
 
Oh, I know no-one was trying to ace me, I was being very toungue in cheek when I said 'ahem' so it's all good

I used to have a colossal collection of wrestling videos...

Describe the seeds, well, I will have to dig them out of my stash, but from memory they were huge and quite a pale brown with some light striping and pronounced canucles. The Oaxacan seed in pure form is average sized, medium brown with black stripes, the Jamaican seed in pure form was huge and medium brown I seem to recall.

Not sure if the Jamaican is Jamaican or what, it came from rural Jamaica and was what a friend's auntie was growing beside her tin shack for her own consumption, in pure form it's truly stunning, the most resinous plant I've ever seen and very dense in terpenoids too, such a rich, complex taste. However it won't branch unless seriously coerced, has very woody hard to clone stems, stretches a hell of a lot and has a small yield. One of the more potent smokes I've grown, seen it do some damage to a few people.

Ah, this is refreshing, talking about plants for once and no bickering...
 
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