Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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That looks nice British Hempire. I keep hearing about the Highland Oaxacan but the only source seems to be Nirvana's Eldorado. Chimera's Highland Mexican is the only other Mexican variety around that I know of. Reeferman's Blackseed may be another.

Colombian Gold: Reeferman's Santa Marta
Cannabiogen Punta Roja (hybrid), Panama (hybrid)
Breeder's Choice Punta Roja

R. Fortune
 
Reef's Blackseed is a proper Mexican judging by grows I've seen. Not sure about Eldorado, knowing Nirvana, it's bound to have some skunk in it.

Chimera's Highland Mex is highly regarded but not cheap.

I never did a lot of breeding with the Oaxacan due to the hermie issues but I did make a very small number of f1 seeds with it.
 
Reef's Blackseed is a proper Mexican judging by grows I've seen. Not sure about Eldorado, knowing Nirvana, it's bound to have some skunk in it.

Chimera's Highland Mex is highly regarded but not cheap.

I never did a lot of breeding with the Oaxacan due to the hermie issues but I did make a very small number of f1 seeds with it.

Thanks for the input!

I think that the Dutch really like Skunk...

Reeferman I guess can be hit or miss, but he does have some good things. Not much left. I don't think that he will be back.

Today I just got some stuff from Beanho:

PCK X Afghan Haze

Mango2 x Mango Haze

SSH3 x Mango Haze

He seems like a passionate guy. His selections look great. Incredible value

Still trying to get a feel for this forum thing.

Best regards,

R. Fortune
 
The CG I have sounds a lot like DJ's memories, the 'smile-lock and red-eye' are definitely there and the sandalwood incense, almost like frankincense is spot-on for how it smells and tastes, this is why I keep saying I think the incense in Haze in from the Colombian...

I believe Kanga and Nev might have some insight into the Colombian genes to share in the near future.

Also, I second what DJ said about Highland Oaxacan Gold finishing better at northerly latitudes, but that is logical as Oaxaca is much further from the equator than the highlands of Colombia...

Oooh the good ol days.mmmmm. Where'd you get your Columbian Gold? I've been looking into reeferman's and it sounds legit in traits.
 
I got it from a guy in Cali who got it from Luiz at BSC, I think Luiz sourced it from a guy called Aldous who lives in Colombia.
 
I agree, elmer, the guy seems to have the right attitude.

I was visiting a seed shop owned by a friend recently and they only sell regular seeds from three companies - MNS, KC Brains and one other I forget, everything else is feminised.

I left him a load of packs of regular seed I made to give out as freebies, it just scares me that this feminised thing is going to really damage the genepool as so few people are actually growing regular seeds these days.
 
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I never said fems were the best thing since sliced bread at all, I was highly critical of the hacks who use the technique to make seeds from cuttings of well known strains like SSH, Critical Mass etc to turn an easy profit, I've been saying this for years.

What I did argue with you about and still stand by is that there is nothing wrong with the feminising process, it is a useful tool in a breeder's arsenal, but like many tools is open to abuse - I mean, you can use a hammer to build a fence but also to smash someone's head in, don't denegrate the tool just because it is open to mis-use by some people with bad motives.

The crux of the argumet we had was that you had all these strange notions about feminising changing genes and other wierd things like that. I pointed out and still point out, that all that happens when you spray silver ions on a cannabis plant is that the silver ions inhibit the ethylene hormone and this prevents the formation of female flowers.

You see, the genetic information to produce male flowers must be present within the female otherwise spraying with silver would not work.

An analogy would be the gynocomastia(sp) that bodybuilders suffer, they take so many drugs that mess with their hormones that they suffer a condition colloquially known as 'bitch tits' - proper name gynoecomastia, in short, they grow female breast tissue, many bodybuilders and steroid abusers have had to have cosmetic surgery to remove this excess breast tissue.

The drugs the bodybuilders take don't alter their dna, they just mess with their hormone levels, the genes to grow female tits must already be present.

Same thing with cannabis, spraying silver to feminise doesn't alter the plant's genes it just messes with the hormone levels which allows the male gene to express itself.

So you're quite wrong, I haven't changed my view at all.

As for your critisism of 'breeders', I'd like you to quote any instances where I have applied that tag to myself, I'm just a grower who likes to grow unusual and rare heirlooms and cross em or if I find a really good one like the Colombian Gold I make a load of seeds of it and share em with people that would appreciate and enjoy the strain or those who like me, like to dabble in making their own hybrids and would like to assess the strain for possible use in their own work.

Interesting we had a few pages of good discussion with no arguing or negativity then along comes hempy...

I dunno, some people just can't resist calling others names, it reflects on their own character flaws imho
 
You Sad Git!

I found this under "BREEDER FORUMS" LOL. ;)

British_Hempire said:
Hello Folks

I've been spending a lot of time learning about genetics and the actual mechanism behind sexual expression in cannabis, particularly the issue of intersexed plants.

Many people are against feminised seeds, I was one of them, but as I have studied the issue, I have learnt that the objections I had were based on flawed knowledge.

I will be writing more about what I have learnt soon, but the long and short of it is that feminised seeds are not a bad thing and the issues people have been having with them are down to bad selections by the breeders.

I have learnt that selfing opens up a world of new breeding possibilities not possible using males. One of the things that I will be using selfing to achieve is the repair of lines with intersex issues.

Some exciting work is in the pipeline, I will give more info over the coming weeks, but I won't be going into too much detail about the techniques and science behind them as this is cutting edge work (for the cannabis world at least) and it would be daft to give all my 'trade secrets' to others.

My first feminised seeds will be appearing before the end of this year hopefully.

Source: Feminised Seeds - BreedBay

Shall I go on or not BH?

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please guys no more, i must have pulled a muscle in my neck and anytime i laugh it really fucking hurts man, aaaaaaaaaa, there i go again, so i have been laughing and in pain at the same time, aaaaaaaaaaaaa, :D
 
You know British hemp its funny how so many people go full circle in the cannabis community and go from showing there true nasty side to being politically correct to sooth the general senses of the members vues over night but i don't i just please one person my self and stick to my beliefs and i don't care who i upset or who likes me i really don't give a shit if no one likes me because few people on the boards are straight shoots there just here to ether work there way to the market floor to cash there hacks in or fake genetics or there here to collect what genetics they can and that's the sad fact of most on these boards but there are some good people and why i am still here and only here for.

You can say what ever you like British hemp but the reality is you Sam chim tom and many more supported fem seeds okay some sed they were a great tool for breeding but when i spoke out and sed there the scourge to the cannabis Geno pool i was attacked flamed trolled by you and others you can denie it all you like but you cant hid your past so don't even try to British hemp as its spreed all over the net on many boards

I can quote you British hemp if you like i don't give a rats ass any more i would think you and others would of woken up to this point by now i don't care to have arguments with you or any ether but lets keep it honest and factual for a change lets all at lest try and keep things honest regardless
of each of ow reasons to be here.

I took flack lots of flack from you and many others for saying fem seeds were bad for reasons i now see you supporting which is a positive i must say British hemp but don't bull shit me and every other member reading this and tell us all you were against fem seeds as you were not you were one of the largest supporters so its a positive you now feel as many of us did and still do in regards to fem seeds but don't repeat don't tell me you always have as its bull shit.

It still stands Hempy, its a useful tool, but its abused just like backcrossing was before it, don't hate the tool just the fool who abuses it for their intere$t$...
 
haha thanks for the laughs guys, im not usually one to rub ppls noses in it but i just can't resist!

BRITISH BULLSHIT HEMPIRE .... on more than one occasion youv slaged cheese off as being a mediocre strain at best, so if its so mediocre why were you breeding with it?? well i say " breeding" more hacking with it??? just o cash in on the hype?? must be as youv said plenty of times its just a mediocre skunk1.... not sure about the rest of you but i only breed and more importantly grow plants that i ador!!

again forgive me as im realy not a mud slinger but on this occasion i think its warranted!
 
It still stands Hempy, its a useful tool, but its abused just like backcrossing was before it, don't hate the tool just the fool who abuses it for their intere$t$...

you forgot to log out n sighn back in as british hempire or what cuz im sure hempy ment that post for B/H lol
 
you forgot to log out n sighn back in as british hempire or what cuz im sure hempy ment that post for B/H lol

Pardon? I'll address who I like thanks... if you are trying to imply I'm B/H, you are clearly wrong... I give a shit about techniques that improve our gene pool..

Kopite
 
MR cheese. You were in a thread the other day whinging about every time you come on here its perosnal attacks & childish posting well you sir are no better then those you were complaining about.

Also Uncle peter isn't BH.

Also im not sticking up for BH here but those posts were made in 2008 a lot can happen in three years & some ones point of veiw can change.
 
Never ceases to amaze me what a lot of crap flies around this place.

I'll be waiting for the thread to return to the subject of the Grail, the rest is just bollocks...
 
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