Genetics Shanti "rejected" in the past

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yes Shanti worked on Mullum Madness during late 70s-early 80s
BTW it would be nice if mns released some pure sativa genetics for hardcore growers , in search of pure sat strains ,with patience and good outdoor location
Here is a list of most strains Shanti has worked with:

Shantibaba said:
"Dr Kevorkian...a strain that was in between SSH and NH genetically."
"Doc Kevorkian was basically a particular NL5 x Haze one of the original sisters in the hood, there was also the NL5xHaze/Mist which was not really mist at all, just a ploy for the HTCC from the bobblehead for some reason or other? Anyhow there were alot of other things like Heavy Duty Fruity Nug, Richard Davis, Alaskan Thunder Fu-k, and the list goes on KGB, as the memories come back I will write. I have all of these things in seed stock from the early 90s and before.Maybe one day I will get around to putting them back into stock for those who are interested."
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"MR NICE SEEDBANK STRAIN BASE

SUPER SILVER HAZE :
a hybrid of NL5/Haze x Skunk/Haze
CRITICAL MASS :
afghani x Skunk...(Big Bud)
SHIT :
3/4 skunk 1/4 Afghani
La NINA :
Haze x (Brazilian Sativa/Sth Indian)
BLACK WIDOW :
(Brazilian Sativa/Sth Indian){stabile hybrid}
MEDICINE MAN :
(Brazilian Sativa x Sth Indian)x Afghan
SHARK SHOCK :
(Brazilian Sativa x Sth Indian)x Skunk
*RED DEVIL :
Afghani x Afghani
DREAMTIME :
Indoor mix...all possible
WALKabout :
OUTDOOR mix...contains alot of countries varieties(also for indoor)
EARLY QUEEN :
Early Pearl x Super Skunk x Early Girl
SPICE :
Hawaiian Sativa/Hawaiian Indica {stabile hybrid}

Other strains from me:
GRAVITY :
4 way indica hybrid
NL5/Skunk :
NL5 x skunk
PURE SKUNK :
100% skunk
ULTRA SKUNK :
Skunk x Afghan
HAZE/SKUNK :
Haze x Afghan
NEVILLES HAZE :
3/4 Haze 1/4 NL5...Haze being Thai/Colombian origin
*HASH PLANT :
100% indica
HIMALAYAN GOLD :
Nepalese 100%
G13Skunk#1 :
G13 x Skunk#1 <Nevil"s>
PP1 :
Afghani x Skunk x NL5
MASTER KUSH :
Kush Afghan x Kush Afghan

These are the strains that I have been responsible for the passed decade plus.
If there is skunk in any strain it will finish between 6 and 7 weeks.Some strains not on the MR NICE SEEDBANK list are either going to be one day or are out of seed stock at this moment.When I have produced enough seed of each strain they will be available for sale, but not till then.

All the best Shantibaba"


Quote taken from icmag > mns subforums > thread : "shanti- SSH, Sensi's version of Jack Herer???"

I ve also heard from BOG (BushyOlderGrower) that when he visited Shanti's greenhouses in Swiss , Shanti had a very nice strain called 'Ultimate Indica' and a strain called 'Orange Bud' ,a very high yielding plant similar to CM in production.I dont know if some of these strains have actually been rejected or just their production is being put on hold for practical reasons , only shanti can give some more info here

Hope this helps

Have fun...L33t
 
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One more minsinformative post from Arjan..As far as I am concerned I am pretty sure this PP1 is one more 'stolen' pseudo-strain releshed from GH co ..

I recently read from Rezdog that Franco,Arjans partner, bought 15,000$ (!) of worth seeds from Rezdog's strains thru an online auction..within only a single week (!)..guess what for..
 
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Very interesting questions, and will stay tuned to see the response... It appears to me, that Shanti, Sam, and a few more are the people that put some of the best gear up, that can be obtain today......


Thanks for all you do guys

Cheers


HD

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yeah
id love to source some mullumbimby madness
out in the aussie sun for sure would be a beautiful site
i have been to the town in search..
even an old mother sativa was laughed at
next mardi grass im going all out for strong sativas
i just wanna see a huge tree
cool thred guys
bil
 
From what I heard I think he should be back soon, next week or the week after most probably.
 
If ya want to try something like Mullem Madness,try out the Nevilles Haze Mango cross! But be prepared to look through the beans! I grew one under a 400 watter,in a small cab.It was the most indica of 10 plants.
6 months of flower time,and one pound later,really,the old style sativa high,just makes ya feel good,like a stress free holiday,great for anxiety,
depression and the like,but,just a bit too weak,for my THC filled heart.
In my opinion,Afghan/Skunk cross,has the same sativaery high,with the more stoney,relaxing,meditative type of body twist,as well.More satisfying,for that true,HIGHFLYER!!!
Also,take note of what Shanti says about the Skunk crosses"finish between 6-7 weeks"!!!
Very different to what I see people growing!More like 9 to 12 weeks,and more like Skunk/Haze crosses,than modern Skunk crosses!!!
I guess it makes it hard for peeps to steal the genetics,and sell them themselves,if the true genetics are mixed into an extremely large gene pool,such as old mother sativa!!!
 
I found this interesting post from shanti, its around 4-6 months old , about some old strains that are going to be reproduced again if all goes well.

shantibaba said:
"...well funny you should mention Gravity as it is one in the soon to be redone pile. I can also say that Adam from THseeds in Amsterdam contacted me not so long ago and asked to use the name in his new hybrid as it incorporated this plant at F1 level I believe . But the answer is yes there will be a new Gravity by next year all being well and possibly a remake of a nepalese or HG but i will not call it that, to avoid confusion..."



WOZ,


Wizard of Oz said:
"If ya want to try something like Mullem Madness,try out the Nevilles Haze Mango cross! But be prepared to look through the beans! I grew one under a 400 watter,in a small cab.It was the most indica of 10 plants.
6 months of flower time,and one pound later..."


6 months / 24 weeks of flowering ?Or both veg and flowering?

Are you serious or was that a typo error?

Not even a pure sativa doesn't take as long...There are some 24 weeker sativas but the Nevilles Haze takes 14-20max weeks to finish and NevillesxMango is not even as slow as the Nevilles..NevillesHaze x Mango is more indica dominant and faster ..more of a 11-16weeker max..I ve read a few reports and most people say 10-15weeks.Plus you talk about your most indica dominant pheno here..which makes wonder even more..If the most indica dominat plant takes 6 months then the sativa would take a year..


If someone wants something close to MM ,which is a pure Sativa, better try the NevillesHaze as it is closer to MM according to shanti , NH is 75% Sativa.
Neville'sHazexMango is the next option but its more indica dominant than NHaze and less powerful and trippy from what I ve been told from people that have grown both ..but its faster and more practical for indoors.

shantibaba said:
"well the mullum madness is the same strain as Nevil's Haze as far as i am concerned. I was one of the growers of Mullum madness back in the late 70s early 80s and it is a combination of selected Thai and Colombians from freaks. NH is only with the Nl5 25%....so it was a little more practical for the indoor scene in Holland."
 
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Hi All

just going thorugh a few posts and threads that catch my eye initially...saw this one so thought to make a little comment

There are alot of things that get sent to me and alot of personal projects of individuals who have been inbreeding lines for years.It of course is all interesting at the beginning but out of 100 seed lines tried from this source it has been literally a handful that caught my attention. Considering it takes alot of time to get to this stage alot of these plants are eliminated from my veg room...

If I select to work with a land race from a particular country, like Laos for example...there maybe nothing worth keeping initially, which is actually what happened to me.So as time permits and space, you put out another batch hoping things will change, and they sometimes do. In the 90s I did work and spend alot of time on a Laotian seed...but I never found anything special or worthwhile so I kept the work up till then, in seed form and eliminated the plants from my grow room and library.

The general rule in breeding is to test the progeny and see how it comes up...most people are happy to have made a batch of seed, but the hardest work is in the selection process...this is where I kill alot of plants without doubts.

Hope that helps a little all the best Sb
 
Hi all and shanti :)

I was reading this thread and hope this is right

Originally Posted by shantibaba
"...well funny you should mention Gravity as it is one in the soon to be redone pile. I can also say that Adam from THseeds in Amsterdam contacted me not so long ago and asked to use the name in his new hybrid as it incorporated this plant at F1 level I believe . But the answer is yes there will be a new Gravity by next year all being well

Here hoping all the best S-N:D
 
One more minsinformative post from Arjan..As far as I am concerned I am pretty sure this PP1 is one more 'stolen' pseudo-strain releshed from GH co ..

I recently read from Rezdog that Franco,Arjans partner, bought 15,000$ (!) of worth seeds from Rezdog's strains thru an online auction..within only a single week (!)..guess what for..

Exsplains the Chem dawg advert over at bobleheads Stolenhouse seed co
 
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