female Seed verse Reugular Seed flower shots...

I have never been a fan of fem seeds. I have grown a few them from different companies and all of the clones taken from them hermied. I use a perpetual grow system and in my experience the trait worsens with time and generations. For the most part it is not a natural trait which is one reason why I only grow from reg seed. I'm not in an area where I can go and buy clones so all my seeds are mailorder.
 
Why isn't it a natural trait? No chemicals were used to produce the trait and it can be done with alot of strains by just letting them flower for longer than needed.
I've been stung by using dutch passions femmed seeds in the past, hermies are why I stopped using them, but using this method I don't get any, if I did, I'd stop.
The few male flowers that do appear don't start to increase in numbers or appear earlier in flower with each crop.
I don't get any nanners with these cuts and some have been doing the rounds for 3 years now.

Hermies happen naturally in nature and although it's not useful to humans it does help plants in the wild to survive when no males are about to produce the next generation, an emergency survival device as I've heard Soma call it.

This isn't for commercial breeding , but good for making seeds of your favourite cut, just incase you lose the cut for some reason or need to travel to a different continent etc. Always good to have a back up.

Peace GG
 
I had a feeling after I read my own post someone would call me out on that natural statement. It does occur when there are no males around to pollinate. That trait might be passed on to it's offspring even when there are males around. Is that good? I'm not saying saying that growing or producing fem seeds is wrong. In my experience I have not had good luck using them. For some people fems are the way to go.
 
genegenie said:
The Pink Bubblegum that I have is only in fem form, the seed she came from was from her mother(a sister X sister) crossed to a cut of herself.

I've used pollen from both males and females to pollinate her and in any of the seeds I've grown out from them, none show hermie traits, even under stress. I've gone as far as F2's in some of the crosses and still no hermie traits.

You can get alot of them to produce a few male flowers if you flower them for at leasyt 25% longer than you should, but this is just a trait that appears when the flowers and thc production has dipped well past it's peak and doesn't affect them if they are harvested on time.

Using chemicals like silver nitrate and GA3 can lead to hermie's in future generations, but the technique I use is different to that, I've bred in a trait through selection which I feel is beneficial to both me and the strain.

Peace GG
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what i am saying is as a f1 f2 or even f3 if breed right hemie seeds can be useful. but i will tell you from my and other growers experience that if you rely on hermies to keep your strain going for years to come because you really like the strain you just waisted years of hard work. the male plants not there in nature for nothing. how Meany true female hermied from you original stock? i bet more hermie now from these f2 you grow and f3 more and it will get faster the more generations you go. my experience with fem seeds comes from bag seeds from crops because that what i used when i first started growing like most were i lived then. i know this will happen because i seen it not only with my plants from these bag seeds but other growers to because we never had males to cross to our females then. so hermied the same way you do i didn't even know what cs was then. i think fem seeds are great if breed right for a quick crop without having to mess about with males. but for breeding its a waist of time. that why i don't like seed banks that only offer there strains in fem form only its a form of greed imoa. i don't wont anything of anyone that's greedy and only interested in making money. i would rather do business with someone that dose it for the passion. flinging money at a plant wont make it grow any better. curing for it and and making sure its fine in every way and get what it needs makes it grow. that's why i go with the people that give there plant what it needs. your right plants hermie in nature not because it's good for the plant or it would Hermie and not need a male at all. its because it cant find a male and its best to lose something and pass on your genes so a male can come and put the balance right with future generations. i will tell you what you go breed your fems to f5s them come tell me i am wrong and you don't have a hermie problem during mid end of flowering and your not the number 1 seed breeder in your area. that's only f5 you don't even get a true stable strain at f5 with male female breeding do that and i will tell the world fem seeds are the best thing to ever happen to the cannabis word. its a natural occurring thing for 1 maybe 2 generations at most then once a male come its there some time in breeding form not 5 or 6 generations. ps i think your plant look really nice its a shame there domed because of the way they have been breed.
 
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Oh no, my plants are doomed!!!! I better go smoke them now so Brock.

I just wanted to post some positive pics of my fems in this thread as Shanti requested, don't want to get into another fems are evil debate, oh yes they are, oh no they're not etc,


Peace GG
 
genegenie said:
Oh no, my plants are doomed!!!! I better go smoke them now so Brock.

I just wanted to post some positive pics of my fems in this thread as Shanti requested, don't want to get into another fems are evil debate, oh yes they are, oh no they're not etc,


Peace GG
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what is it with you and fems are evil? where did i say there evil? if you read or maybe i should quote to make it easier for you. [what i am saying is as a f1 f2 or even f3 if breed right hemie seeds can be useful] i actually grow fems so if i though they were evil as you put it why would i grow and even still breed them? its not a good thing to make out people are saying something there not like you are. try speaking for your self or quoting people because you cant speak for others. maybe you grow some f2 and there nice plants doesn't make you the only person to have breed nice f2 fems. i wish my camra didnt delete my old f2 fem bl bob marley's best plants or even my bag weed f3 could of showed you some nice plants from fem seeds. with buds just as big if not bigger then yours. only thing i sead is [ i bet more hermie now from these f2 you grow and f3 more and it will get faster the more generations you go.] and your say is [Using chemicals like silver nitrate and GA3 can lead to hermie's in future generations, but the technique I use is different to that, I've bred in a trait through selection which I feel is beneficial to both me and the strain.] silver nitrate wont increase the chances of hermies in future breeding anymore than the way your breeding. its just the same as the way your breeding now. only you can use a true female the ones you cant use because they don't hermie no mater how long you leave them flowering. have you use the stuff or are you just telling people about things you have no experience of to make the way you breed better? right now here is something you sead. [but good for making seeds of your favourite cut,] i agree in part what about the cuts that don't hermie after left to flower longer because to quote you [You can get alot of them to produce a few male flowers if you flower them for at leasyt 25% longer than you should] allots not all. a friend of mine has a 6 week skunk plant that's been in his grow room 6 month that i gave him as a cut. hasn't hermied because it's one of them rear true females so this fem only strain would only hermie with cs hence partially agree. [Hermies happen naturally in nature and although it's not useful to humans it does help plants in the wild to survive when no males are about to produce the next generation, an emergency survival device as I've heard Soma call it.] totally agree this soma this is an emergence survival device. now for some info on how living thing work when something become of no use to a living thing it loses it through evolution has history shows time and time again or is history wrong as well? maybe that's where i am going wrong learning from the things that happened in my history as a grower:D. so man has found ways of interfering with living thing like plant and allot of them have changed because of hower interference wild plant are now endangered and even extinct because of it. evolution occurs because a living thing no longer need something or make it slightly beter through deforatys it has. cannabis as both male and female why because most plant don't need them and have evolved to lose this:confused: could it be because for thousands of years people breed it for seeds and a plant that hermies has and can make seeds when it wont will make less seeds? if you have ever grow a plant that hermies early and one that needs pollination by a male to make seeds you would no that the true female and the male will make more seeds. hence the stupid prices fem seeds sold for when they first come on the market. so there's one thing that could make it evolve slower. removal of hermies by humans to increase seed production by the plants people still do it today. cannabis drops its seeds close to the plant that made them because wind cant move them much because of there design the not really made to fly are they? unlike a lot of plant that's seeds can fly for mile and end up were there's no males and need a male so evolved to hermie all the time so has both male female parts on plant now because of evaluation. cannabis cant so a male female pollination is more likely in the wild unless a animal comes and eats all the male early on because males normally grow and flower abit faster so to catch the female at there peak or eats some seeds with out chowing them up. a cannabis seed poop results and a plant germinates away from a male then it will hermie like you sead to try to pass on its genes to the next generation or it hermie pollen by getting carried by the wind to a natural cannabis crop because it wants to pass its genes on. or if it Hermie's early enough it can pollinate its own lower buds and make a few seeds not a lot to try again. till inbreeding the exact same genes make it infertile and the genes die. i would recommend you do some research on genetics of plants and animals before you try playing god with them on the bases of one article by soma. i have read the article my self i will see if i can find it and post it up. i don't think soma him self would say that scientist a lot cleverer than you or me or dare i say even soma when it comes to genes and evaluation are wrong.
LIKE I SEAD FROM THE STAR FEMANISED SEEDS ARE USEFULL IN WAYS.
PLANTS USE THEM BECAUSE THERE USEFULL JUST LIKE US THERE NOT EVIL. IF USED RIGHT CAN HAVE A LOT OF USES IN DIFFRENT BREEDING PROJECTS.
CAN I MAKE ANY MORE EASY TO GET MY POINT ACROSS. NOT EVIL, NOT EVIL, NOT EVIL. SPEELED IT OUT 3 TIME IN BLOCK CAPITAL FOR YOU.

don't take this as offensive its not meant to be at all genegenie . you just keep say i am saying something i am not about fem seeds. so trying my hardest to get my opinions about them across so you can under stand. i am not saying there evil or a bad thing. but can be useful a good thing and a bad thing for plants. ps i know your posting pics and its appreciated they lovely plants. i wouldn't of quoted you if your post didn't have imoa. useful info that needed a bit of extra adding before every one goes out and kills there males of and starts breeding only from females. you should research more before basing you entire breeding on 1 article imoa. not just advice for you but everyone and even over lap the knowledge with knowledge from similar subject to find as much info as possible that relevant before jumping in head first and going a little speck in term of the research that's been done and telling everyone you and soma do it so its good. its little tiny bit of breeding not really 1% of the research that has been done. most wouldn't even call it worthy of calling a fair experiment going to only f2. when saying i know every thing and don't need to know anymore about it because i breed f2 without hermies this way. take the blinkers of your eyes and go learn more mate that's what were all here for to learn:)
 
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And in the fem corner-GG

Brock,

I didn't say you said that fems were evil, I said that I didn't want to get into a debate about fem's being evil or not.

If you do a search through the threads you'll find one or 2 heated debates about fem seeds that happened recently, that I was involved in and that I've no interest in having again, so we'll have to agree to disagree if that's cool with you.

Peace GG
 
shantibaba said:
Hi All

I am currently researching an article for my own use. It is roughly about showing female flowers from both female seed and regular true bred seed. If anyone has something interesting to contribute it would be great.

I know it is possible to get good flowers from both. But my question to most of you is do you know the source of the clones you get? Are they regular seed selection or other? Things like this would be helpful to read about for all growers since it is easy to bad mouth things but with pictorial evidence it is evident or not!

So thank you in advance and look forward to seeing what you got installed....SB
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This is why I originally posted my pictures in here,

Peace GG
 
genegenie said:
Brock,

I didn't say you said that fems were evil, I said that I didn't want to get into a debate about fem's being evil or not.

If you do a search through the threads you'll find one or 2 heated debates about fem seeds that happened recently, that I was involved in and that I've no interest in having again, so we'll have to agree to disagree if that's cool with you.

Peace GG
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or right didn't look through all the threads it would take to long;). so sorry if i toke your post wrong i know you only posted to help shanti with his work and i am glad you done so. its fine i will agree to disagree mate just though you were saying i sead there bad when i didn't so all's good. think i got my point across anyway for all to see. fems fine by me if breed wright for the right reasons and you research first. best not to make mistake and have to mend then later.:)
 
brock1 said:
what is it with you and fems are evil? where did i say there evil? if you read or maybe i should quote to make it easier for you. [what i am saying is as a f1 f2 or even f3 if breed right hemie seeds can be useful] i actually grow fems so if i though they were evil as you put it why would i grow and even still breed them? its not a good thing to make out people are saying something there not like you are. try speaking for your self or quoting people because you cant speak for others. maybe you grow some f2 and there nice plants doesn't make you the only person to have breed nice f2 fems. i wish my camra didnt delete my old f2 fem bl bob marley's best plants or even my bag weed f3 could of showed you some nice plants from fem seeds. with buds just as big if not bigger then yours. only thing i sead is [ i bet more hermie now from these f2 you grow and f3 more and it will get faster the more generations you go.] and your say is [Using chemicals like silver nitrate and GA3 can lead to hermie's in future generations, but the technique I use is different to that, I've bred in a trait through selection which I feel is beneficial to both me and the strain.] silver nitrate wont increase the chances of hermies in future breeding anymore than the way your breeding. its just the same as the way your breeding now. only you can use a true female the ones you cant use because they don't hermie no mater how long you leave them flowering. have you use the stuff or are you just telling people about things you have no experience of to make the way you breed better? right now here is something you sead. [but good for making seeds of your favourite cut,] i agree in part what about the cuts that don't hermie after left to flower longer because to quote you [You can get alot of them to produce a few male flowers if you flower them for at leasyt 25% longer than you should] allots not all. a friend of mine has a 6 week skunk plant that's been in his grow room 6 month that i gave him as a cut. hasn't hermied because it's one of them rear true females so this fem only strain would only hermie with cs hence partially agree. [Hermies happen naturally in nature and although it's not useful to humans it does help plants in the wild to survive when no males are about to produce the next generation, an emergency survival device as I've heard Soma call it.] totally agree this soma this is an emergence survival device. now for some info on how living thing work when something become of no use to a living thing it loses it through evolution has history shows time and time again or is history wrong as well? maybe that's where i am going wrong learning from the things that happened in my history as a grower:D. so man has found ways of interfering with living thing like plant and allot of them have changed because of hower interference wild plant are now endangered and even extinct because of it. evolution occurs because a living thing no longer need something or make it slightly beter through deforatys it has. cannabis as both male and female why because most plant don't need them and have evolved to lose this:confused: could it be because for thousands of years people breed it for seeds and a plant that hermies has and can make seeds when it wont will make less seeds? if you have ever grow a plant that hermies early and one that needs pollination by a male to make seeds you would no that the true female and the male will make more seeds. hence the stupid prices fem seeds sold for when they first come on the market. so there's one thing that could make it evolve slower. removal of hermies by humans to increase seed production by the plants people still do it today. cannabis drops its seeds close to the plant that made them because wind cant move them much because of there design the not really made to fly are they? unlike a lot of plant that's seeds can fly for mile and end up were there's no males and need a male so evolved to hermie all the time so has both male female parts on plant now because of evaluation. cannabis cant so a male female pollination is more likely in the wild unless a animal comes and eats all the male early on because males normally grow and flower abit faster so to catch the female at there peak or eats some seeds with out chowing them up. a cannabis seed poop results and a plant germinates away from a male then it will hermie like you sead to try to pass on its genes to the next generation or it hermie pollen by getting carried by the wind to a natural cannabis crop because it wants to pass its genes on. or if it Hermie's early enough it can pollinate its own lower buds and make a few seeds not a lot to try again. till inbreeding the exact same genes make it infertile and the genes die. i would recommend you do some research on genetics of plants and animals before you try playing god with them on the bases of one article by soma. i have read the article my self i will see if i can find it and post it up. i don't think soma him self would say that scientist a lot cleverer than you or me or dare i say even soma when it comes to genes and evaluation are wrong.
LIKE I SEAD FROM THE STAR FEMANISED SEEDS ARE USEFULL IN WAYS.
PLANTS USE THEM BECAUSE THERE USEFULL JUST LIKE US THERE NOT EVIL. IF USED RIGHT CAN HAVE A LOT OF USES IN DIFFRENT BREEDING PROJECTS.
CAN I MAKE ANY MORE EASY TO GET MY POINT ACROSS. NOT EVIL, NOT EVIL, NOT EVIL. SPEELED IT OUT 3 TIME IN BLOCK CAPITAL FOR YOU.

don't take this as offensive its not meant to be at all genegenie . you just keep say i am saying something i am not about fem seeds. so trying my hardest to get my opinions about them across so you can under stand. i am not saying there evil or a bad thing. but can be useful a good thing and a bad thing for plants. ps i know your posting pics and its appreciated they lovely plants. i wouldn't of quoted you if your post didn't have imoa. useful info that needed a bit of extra adding before every one goes out and kills there males of and starts breeding only from females. you should research more before basing you entire breeding on 1 article imoa. not just advice for you but everyone and even over lap the knowledge with knowledge from similar subject to find as much info as possible that relevant before jumping in head first and going a little speck in term of the research that's been done and telling everyone you and soma do it so its good. its little tiny bit of breeding not really 1% of the research that has been done. most wouldn't even call it worthy of calling a fair experiment going to only f2. when saying i know every thing and don't need to know anymore about it because i breed f2 without hermies this way. take the blinkers of your eyes and go learn more mate that's what were all here for to learn:)
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Yo Brock,

I didn't read through your above post when you first posted it, I find your posts quite hard to read because of the lack of punctuation and paragraphs etc.

But after reading through it now I've gotten a bit pissed off, you need to get down off your high horse and show a bit more respect to other members.

You admit you haven't read through the other fem thread so your basing your opinions of the technique I'm using on the info I've posted in this thread which is very little.

Just because you were unable to breed non hermies from your femmed stock doesn't mean jack to me, for all I know you might know shit about breeding and genetics, your above post doesn't lead me to believe any different.

It's a shame your camera deleted your photos that had pictures of buds bigger than my girl on it, would of loved to of seen them because as Shanti said,''it is easy to badmouth things, but with pictorial evidence it is evident or not''

You have a good day Brock, wasn't trying to be offensive, but if you read back through your post I think you'll find you were a bit over the top, I did.

GG
 
Guys, about fems vs regular are answered at first page.
Some facts exist, also some of fems "producers" says it can not be same yield like from regular beans.

Fems
-Easier way for beginners who are scared of male.
-Cant yield fully like same strain in regular.
-High % of possible issues of genetic mutations, also hermies.
-More sensitive at growing conditions , especially outdoors.
-Taste and potency same like regular (depends from grower to grower and conditions of growing)
-Sometimes fems at cloning know to hermie.
-It's a way to destroy Cannabis genetics in the world.

Regular
-Right way for non-beginners who know how to handle possible male plants.
-Yield fully- how much that genetics have predispositions.
-Less % of possible issues of genetic mutations & hermies.
-Posses more resistance at growing conditions than fems,the best way to see that is growing outdoors.
-Taste and potency same like fems.
-Its very rare to at cloning reg clones become hermie
-It's a way to preserve Cannabis genetics, it's one and only way.

Serious growers wont start fems just like that and invest in equipment
for 5000 plants, its same with outdoor growers cause outdoor is just once
per year.

Are fems worth or not it's personal opinion and choice, but no matter do you like or hate - fems or regular seeds,
some facts stay fact no matter what you think or love!
 
genegenie said:
Oh no, my plants are doomed!!!! I better go smoke them now so Brock.

I just wanted to post some positive pics of my fems in this thread as Shanti requested, don't want to get into another fems are evil debate, oh yes they are, oh no they're not etc,


Peace GG
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well gg i found this quit offensive it's not saying i think its evil breeding fems but it has my name on it and would imply it's directed at me.:confused:

the previous posts i made i tried to explain why i sead what i sead to you but where's the explanation with this? this is a forum there for people to put there opinion across on thing and get others opinions back from them so this was you opinion and the reason for it? [Oh no, my plants are doomed!!!! I better go smoke them now so Brock.]

yes i am the first to admit my punctuation is rubbish doesn't stop me from learning from others and trying to help others learn dose it? i wouldn't say i am on a high horse as you put it. i have a lot to learn and learn new things all the time. i don't know it all and don't pretend to.

i know the basics of genetics i am no scientist and have breed dogs, birds, plants, fish of various species. some sucses and even more failures but learn what i done wrong the best i can and try to learn from it and not repeat it. have you seen the effects of inbreeding? ever tried breeding a attribute into any thing using line breeding? ever seen the problems that come with it? ever seen a mutation from breeding a line to close? ever breed a mutation into some thing because its a improvement on the original? all genetics factors that contribute to these. that's how i learn best from mistakes. my life's been full of them and making thems good as long as you learn from them.

how do people know whats in other threads i haven't read them and i bet more than half the other people on the forum haven't ether.

all you had to do if the only way you wanted to contribute to the thread is with you pics is say when you posted it and don't post any more did you? no. we cant read minds well maybe some can. i cant.

if your offended i wish i could say sorry but i don't see anything wrong with explaining what i thinks wrong in your posts as long as i explain why i think its wrong. if you think different feel free to inform me why. i am all ears but you don't seem to and just seen to think everyone should think your just right why?

i think just like you a picture is worth a thousand words. but sometimes a picture with no word is worth no more than words with no picture imoa. i haven't got a grow room at the minute. wont have for about a year because of legal reasons. when i do i will grow some big plant for big yields and post pics with info and all to go with them. the last few crops i have done have been smaller plant for a quicker crop.

i give the respect that i receive from others like i sead. i apologize if i toke your post wrong but at the same time think you need to explain what your posting and why more in your post.

BlizzOut [Are fems worth or not it's personal opinion and choice, but no matter do you like or hate - fems or regular seeds,
some facts stay fact no matter what you think or love!]

very true words somes it up perfectly.:)
 
brock1 said:
ps i think your plant look really nice its a shame there domed because of the way they have been breed.
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This is why I said, ''Oh no my plants are doomed, I'd better go smoke them now so Brock''

That make sense to you now Brock? Everything clear? Sorry if you found that offensive, I thought it was a fair reply.

See you around!

GG
 
Not sure how you ppl looking at Cannabis and breeding, especially cause Cannabis are annual plant.

What is polyhybrid ?
In nature are not mother plant.Every year there is million mother plants P1 and father plants P1.
There is not selection at all.
In same time one female is pollinated with couple males.
These seeds next year become new P1.
So what is Landrace ?

BUT,what is exactly in-breeding ?
 
genegenie said:
This is why I said, ''Oh no my plants are doomed, I'd better go smoke them now so Brock''

That make sense to you now Brock? Everything clear? Sorry if you found that offensive, I thought it was a fair reply.

See you around!

GG
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if you read posts before responding to them you would know. because you don't in you own words [I didn't read through your above post when you first posted it, I find your posts quite hard to read because of the lack of punctuation and paragraphs etc] i was referring to if you intending to breed a line from them using this method 'rodelization method of femming' and explained why. not the the plants you have now and explained in the post that i like f1, f2, and even some f3.

you just seem to like taking little bits from posts and posting them with total different meaning like this. (i killed them because they had no use) you would say i was some kind of murderer or something and quote [i killed them because they had no use] as your reason. it would refer to what i killed in the texts before. it wouldn't have to even be a living thing could of been songs or anything.

i am not here to destroy this thread. everything i sead i have given a reason for saying. so as we both sead earlier i will agree to disagree and leave this thread. i think that's best for the thread. i think this thread can be helpful to people wanting to know more about the good point and bad about fem seeds. unlike you who only seem to want people to see the good point of fem seeds its sad there so Meany people that don't wont people to know both the advantages and disadvantages. everything has a disadvantage if you look for it nothings perfect.
 
working with hermys, it's very delicate... than saw called breeders use boosters and germitttation offen-less than 0:D
breeder is person who is making sellecttion... not instant money maker:D
 
Feminized LA woman seed.

Here is a Feminized LA Woman plant i veged for over 4 weeks and flowered out in a 20 litre container, it didnt get much of a root system going on really, mind you my whole last seed grow was a dissapointing one, but things still out preformed this fem variety thats for sure,

It looks the same as the breeders photos ive seen elsewhere, browned off at 6 weeks and took almost 2 more weeks to harden up and resin up, the little side branched buds are not worth keeping as theres not much resin there at all really, so il biff em into making hash i guess,

Thing is, if I grew this fem plant out as a CLONE only it would probably do really well, thats my advice to anybody growing female only seeds indoors or outdoors that they grow them out as clones only, ive tried a couple of differnt varietys now and they grew out much much better as clones, higher yield off a clone than the actual plant anyhow, this is supposed to be the other way round isnt it, grins abit" -
I can see things becomming a tad fucked up in the marijuana trade with this fem seed carry on amongst other things to, Id outlaw them if i were a marijuana sherriff or something like it.

PS:- Shanti - Are you thinking of growing out some choice fem seeds aye matey ? thats why you really made this thread aye man, be honest now, lol, sorry but i just had to hit ya up on that one because i know your No fan of female only seeds either.
 

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shantibaba said:
Hi All

I am currently researching an article for my own use. It is roughly about showing female flowers from both female seed and regular true bred seed. If anyone has something interesting to contribute it would be great.

I know it is possible to get good flowers from both. But my question to most of you is do you know the source of the clones you get? Are they regular seed selection or other? Things like this would be helpful to read about for all growers since it is easy to bad mouth things but with pictorial evidence it is evident or not!

So thank you in advance and look forward to seeing what you got installed....SB
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I don't like feminized seeds - it is evident they are GMO, and thus possibly dangerous in the future to our health. I don't trust feminized seeds at all.
 
ive got 3 winning plants from feminized seeds,,,

1 is the FFA clone [MSS x OGKA] made by Rez and selected by CrazyComposer,,,,the FFA is a fab example of a wickid plant and a perfect blend of the MassSuperSkunk x OGKA,,,,its got the bubbled up bud structure similar to other MSS hybrids and the OGKA flavour is droped in there perfectly,,,imo,,,,,fab vigor,,,medium yealder

2 is MYOG,,,me and my offline mates found this 1 from S1 seeds,,,is an OGkush S1,,,thats the best tasting plant ive ever had!!!,,,,its just as stinky as cheese but in a compleetly different way,,,very unique!!,,,its not hard to grow and it yealds averagely,,but its still the best tasting weed ive ever had,,,amsterdam is totaly lacking this!!

3 is ,,,,ssh x ogka...,,lots of people like it,,its not to my taste to be honest,,,,,,its an amazing plant to hash...monster yeald and crazy vigor,,but its not to my taste as im lil bit of a skunkhead
 
Why buy fem seed take your seed from a bag of weed it cheaper!

Hi! Shanti

I recently germ some seed that are now at 2 set of leafs!
It was more like germ test! some of those sees where in closet since 2007!

I have like 10 different feminized plant now! All of those was freebie I never buy fem seeds.
it like growing seed from a bag of weed! this I have done it in the pass!

I have 2 from GHS it bubba kush and the church!
other shit too! real shit from fem seeds company!
HP haze, king kush, blue haze...

I'm really scare to put those in my room!
Should I give then away to some one or trow then in the garbage can!

I'm scare tell me what to do Shanti!
I'm not willing to grow these in my room with other plants to take picture! are you insane, asking me to take picture of fem seeds plant!!! LOL
only the seed if you want those seed in picture! I'm so fucking scare you make me sweat. LOL

I don't want those to pollute my grow room!

I will only grow my regular seeds! no I'm not going back on my pass nightmare!!!! growing seed from a bag of weed! the same as fem!

See u later Shanti!
 
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