I wouldn't hold Shanti & Neville responsible if Jesse was just spewing this bile at other sites & being dealt with accordingly, but Jessse uses this site as a sounding board & is often encouraged here to carry on with the negative work ethic, I also wouldn't hold Shanti & Neville partly responsible if they weren't constantly mentioned in the member's dubious work or if they made a simple public statement to distance themselves from this member's motives & tactics. I view this as a virtual house & as mentioned previously this member's given free reign to be as abusive as it likes to everyone & anyone in the canna scene as long as it slips in some compliments about Shanti & Neville, almost as if because of this praise in the shoddy PR work people should just swallow the bile with a spoonful of sugar & not respond.
If this was your house would you allow somebody to openly attack everyone & anyone? I know i wouldn't, but if the behavior is tolerated & people are offended & do leave then they will leave with not only a bad impression of the person attacking them but also the people that allowed the behavior to continue, those that tolerated the nasty behavior, that's where i partly hold these guys responsible, but again, they have neither confirmed nor denied that they are OK with Jesse's negative outlook(aside from praise left at their feet) so with that in mind & lack of intervention it's easy to form opinions, I hope I'm mistaken, I really do
In the scheme of things Neville has had very little aimed at himself apart from 1 or 2 off the cuff remarks & again in quite a short period of time he's publicly threatening people with bans, yet his online PR Jesse is allowed to be as abusive & negative as it wishes without fear of reprimand, never mind a public message of being asked to discontinue the negative manner in which Jesse posts. This is why I question Shanti & Neville's standpoint on the matter, apart from the seed a main attraction of Shanti was that he was a down to earth, caring individual, a genuinely nice man, I still believe this, I want to believe this but I'm asking for clarity as I'm also aware it's easy when business is concerned to present & promote yourself in a positive light that is differnt from a true persona, like Christians that attend church every Sunday yet fail to act in a christian manner during the week, if Shanti & Neville are genuine, caring, spiritual individuals then they will see that for the most part all Jesse does is spread negativity, mostly unfounded allegations, none of this is in the interest of good, it's shit slinging disguised as shoddy pr work on behalf of mr nice seed co
I find it questionable when people come out from the woodwork and ask for forgiveness, tolerance & tranquility, not because I'm against these gestures, far from it, but simply because where are these comments & requests when Jesse is on 1 of the deluded missions, spreading negativity & hatred for all & anything non Shanti/Neville, why are these same members silent when Jesse is openly abusive?
There is a long history of this behavior with this individual going back several years, Jesse's always been the same but it seems is allowed to practice however it see's fit, it only becomes a problem when others question how the negativity spewed by this individual is anything but nice?
Jesse, rather than using chimera as your latest project to try a character assassination on, why don't you return to billy liar's leaving thread where you were very vocal of your feelings & respond to the post I left for you there, I believe you continue to show the same behavior in this thread
I'll go out a limb here & take a wild guess that some use you as a pawn, they may feed you words of encouragement & share in your trolling by providing you with snippets, if this is the case then these same people aren't nice either & are possibly using you to manipulate a situation all the while allowing you to receive the flack while they sit in the shadows, again that's not nice
Hempy, I also group you in with Shanti & Neville, not on achievements or anything like that, that's not intended as an insult, i think you're OK & get the impression that you're passionate about things & you'd actually be a cool cat to sit, smoke & reason with, however your defense of Jesse while commendable for attempting to defend a friend must be questioned.
Why don't you publicly or even privately ask Jesse to refrain from the manner in which Jesse posts? Why only see a need to intervene when Jesse is being held accountable? Are you of the belief that everyone in the canna scene should be held accountable for an individuals distorted notions yet when the same member that casts these allegations is held accountable or brought to task then suddenly it's not nice? A bit negative? Why don't you do your friend a real favor & tell Jesse to pack it in, not the online world, just all the negativity, Why only spread this message to everyone but your friend. Jesse obviously respects Shanti, Neville and yourself & it is my belief that he may actually adhere to your request & give all this negativity a rest. I assure you if that was the case then nothing would be directed at Jesse, everything would be nice, but to expect this individual to be allowed to act in the manner it does & then not be held accountable is wishful thinking to say the least, as Jesse's friend you should take responsibility for these actions if you are in a position to intervene, rather than tapping Jesse on the head and congratulating the negativity & the articles attacking all & sundry & then pulling Jesse to your bosom & trying to shield this member when things get a bit hairy & issues with Jesse are finally being addressed
Despite the user name I'm no expert lol but nor did i just float up the river on a water biscuit, this behavior of Jesse's needs to stop, there's no conspiracy it's just really not nice & shouldn't be tolerated but to suggest its only the people that respond to it that are the problem is bizarre to say the least & a very unusual way of looking at things
best wishes to all
