Down At The Doctors - Dogstar's NHS test grow 2009
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Week 2 - seedlings before potting on
Here we are at the end of week 2 (day 1 = put seeds to soak).
They have not stretched much under 110w tubes, but the roots have developed into the corners of the pots. The pots had been topped up with compost during the week, apart from NHS 7. I had to go away for a couple of days otherwise they would have been better re-potted earlier, one of the seedlings had started to go slightly pale (NHS 11, top left in overhead photos). I haven't used this seedling compost much before and it might be quite weak. The runt NHS 7 is still in the game.
Today they have been re-potted into 5" pots using West+ Multi-purpose compost, and inoculated with Root Grow (Mycorrhizal fungi). They will stay in these for the next 2 weeks.
After re-potting they went under a 400w MH for 18/6.
e2a. I noticed that 7 of the seedlings have their 1st set of true leaves running east-west (up and down in the overhead photo), and 8 have the sets running north-south; it will be interesting to see if there is any correlation with the sex of the plants and the orientation of the leaves. Probably not.
Photos: The white balance is a little off on the 2nd photo, the colour in the 1st photo is more accurate. Pots in photo are 6.6cm square.
Here we are at the end of week 2 (day 1 = put seeds to soak).
They have not stretched much under 110w tubes, but the roots have developed into the corners of the pots. The pots had been topped up with compost during the week, apart from NHS 7. I had to go away for a couple of days otherwise they would have been better re-potted earlier, one of the seedlings had started to go slightly pale (NHS 11, top left in overhead photos). I haven't used this seedling compost much before and it might be quite weak. The runt NHS 7 is still in the game.
Today they have been re-potted into 5" pots using West+ Multi-purpose compost, and inoculated with Root Grow (Mycorrhizal fungi). They will stay in these for the next 2 weeks.
After re-potting they went under a 400w MH for 18/6.
e2a. I noticed that 7 of the seedlings have their 1st set of true leaves running east-west (up and down in the overhead photo), and 8 have the sets running north-south; it will be interesting to see if there is any correlation with the sex of the plants and the orientation of the leaves. Probably not.
Photos: The white balance is a little off on the 2nd photo, the colour in the 1st photo is more accurate. Pots in photo are 6.6cm square.
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Week 3 - Developing 5th node and side shoots
Here we are 21 days from receiving the seeds, still with 15/15, although runt NHS7 is still a runt and NHS 11 is still a bit peaky.
They have been under a 400w MH all week, lowering the lamp height as heat build-up allows. They are still in the 5" pots with West+ MP compost, fed water only.
After some initial stretch they have settled down and most are 5" high with the 5th node developing. I was going to move them outside next week, but may keep them under the MH to keep them bushy.
Most of the plants have also started to develop side shoots, which bodes well as the lower two stems is what I usually take for clones.
I want to veg these until maturity but need to control the overall height...not sure whether to flower the seed plant, or whether to wait a couple of extra weeks and flower the clones.
Here we are 21 days from receiving the seeds, still with 15/15, although runt NHS7 is still a runt and NHS 11 is still a bit peaky.
They have been under a 400w MH all week, lowering the lamp height as heat build-up allows. They are still in the 5" pots with West+ MP compost, fed water only.
After some initial stretch they have settled down and most are 5" high with the 5th node developing. I was going to move them outside next week, but may keep them under the MH to keep them bushy.
Most of the plants have also started to develop side shoots, which bodes well as the lower two stems is what I usually take for clones.
I want to veg these until maturity but need to control the overall height...not sure whether to flower the seed plant, or whether to wait a couple of extra weeks and flower the clones.
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Scorpion
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hey dogstar
ya man ,thats a good one...
that might be one of them anomilies we need to document for the future.
check
ya man ,thats a good one...
that might be one of them anomilies we need to document for the future.
check
Kazan
New member
nice progress dogstar! everything goes ok!
dont worry about the runt one! i had a plant like this which turned out the biggest at harvest! they are creepy little c*unts! lol
watch for sex on the last node they are making, not the middle ones. the top node is usually the one where sex will be shown.
keep it up mate (and green!)
dont worry about the runt one! i had a plant like this which turned out the biggest at harvest! they are creepy little c*unts! lol
watch for sex on the last node they are making, not the middle ones. the top node is usually the one where sex will be shown.
keep it up mate (and green!)
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herbmister
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your plants look super mate
great photos too, the last one looks fantastic
keep it up Dr Dogstar
great photos too, the last one looks fantastic
keep it up Dr Dogstar
Week 5 - group split up, some planted outside
This is a quick update without photos - will add tomorrow, and update the report some more.
Today the 15 plants have now been split into 3 groups:
1. Ground Crew - 5 planted outside in the ground, to be left to grow and flower under natural sunlight.
2. Indoor Crew - 4 put under 400w MH at 12/12. In 2-3 weeks will move under 600w HPS.
3. Supercropped - 6 have been supercropped by bending main stem above 4 node. These will be vegged outside under cover for a further 2 weeks, then put under the 400w MH 12/12 to start flowering once group 2 have moved. I am hoping they will have matured to alternate nodes by then as well.
None have shown sex or alternate node growth.
This is a quick update without photos - will add tomorrow, and update the report some more.
Today the 15 plants have now been split into 3 groups:
1. Ground Crew - 5 planted outside in the ground, to be left to grow and flower under natural sunlight.
2. Indoor Crew - 4 put under 400w MH at 12/12. In 2-3 weeks will move under 600w HPS.
3. Supercropped - 6 have been supercropped by bending main stem above 4 node. These will be vegged outside under cover for a further 2 weeks, then put under the 400w MH 12/12 to start flowering once group 2 have moved. I am hoping they will have matured to alternate nodes by then as well.
None have shown sex or alternate node growth.
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Week 5 - Ground crew after planting out
Here is a shot of the 5 plants put into the ground yesterday (20th). These are unsexed and males will be removed as they show (this is the reason for the close planting). There is one larger one at the back (partly hidden), then the smallest (7), and 3 mid sized ones at the front.
They were watered in with humates. They will be left to flower under natural conditions to get an idea how the strain finishes in NW Europe.
I forgot to get the numbers, I'll fill them in later along with the plant height details.
Will follow with shots of the other 2 groups later today.
Here is a shot of the 5 plants put into the ground yesterday (20th). These are unsexed and males will be removed as they show (this is the reason for the close planting). There is one larger one at the back (partly hidden), then the smallest (7), and 3 mid sized ones at the front.
They were watered in with humates. They will be left to flower under natural conditions to get an idea how the strain finishes in NW Europe.
I forgot to get the numbers, I'll fill them in later along with the plant height details.
Will follow with shots of the other 2 groups later today.
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Week 5 - Indoor crew - day 1 of 12/12
Here are the plants put on 12/12 on the 20th, so this is there first morning after 12 hours dark. Still in the same 7 and 8" pots.
I made a mistake and supercropped 6 not 5, so there are now 4 in this group.
I will be taking a cutting or 2 off each plant this coming week. e2a. Have taken a small cutting off the indoor crew and the supercrop this evening.
NHS 1 - 17.5" (left) leaves look thinner and more spiky than 8 and 9. Thinest leaves. This is also the only plant with no side branch development, so no cutting was taken.
NHS 2 - 17" (right) look similar to 8 and 9.
PHOTO BELOW
NHS 8 - 18" (left) leaves look fatter than 1. Fattest leaves.
NHS 9 - 19" (right) leaves look fatter than 1.
Here are the plants put on 12/12 on the 20th, so this is there first morning after 12 hours dark. Still in the same 7 and 8" pots.
I made a mistake and supercropped 6 not 5, so there are now 4 in this group.
I will be taking a cutting or 2 off each plant this coming week. e2a. Have taken a small cutting off the indoor crew and the supercrop this evening.
NHS 1 - 17.5" (left) leaves look thinner and more spiky than 8 and 9. Thinest leaves. This is also the only plant with no side branch development, so no cutting was taken.
NHS 2 - 17" (right) look similar to 8 and 9.
PHOTO BELOW
NHS 8 - 18" (left) leaves look fatter than 1. Fattest leaves.
NHS 9 - 19" (right) leaves look fatter than 1.
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Week 6.5 day 9 of 12/12 Indoor crew
day 9 of 12/12 Indoor crew - FEMALE
Here we are after 9 nights of 12/12. Still under a 400w MH.
Of the 4 plants photo'd last week, 2 are female (2 & 8) and 2 male (1 & 9).
I had to put the 6 supercropped into 12/12 at the same time, so will also report on those later today.
I can't get photos to upload so will try later.
NHS 2 - 25" (grown 8" in 8 days)
day 9 of 12/12 Indoor crew - FEMALE
Here we are after 9 nights of 12/12. Still under a 400w MH.
Of the 4 plants photo'd last week, 2 are female (2 & 8) and 2 male (1 & 9).
I had to put the 6 supercropped into 12/12 at the same time, so will also report on those later today.
I can't get photos to upload so will try later.
NHS 2 - 25" (grown 8" in 8 days)
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Week 6.5 outdoor Crew
Here are the 5 outdoor plants. 3 have been topped.
They have been watered with humates but no other feed yet.
I will spray will Neem this week as some insect demage is evident, and give some feed.
General View
NHS 7 (group runt catching up)
NHS 7
Here are the 5 outdoor plants. 3 have been topped.
They have been watered with humates but no other feed yet.
I will spray will Neem this week as some insect demage is evident, and give some feed.
General View
NHS 7 (group runt catching up)
NHS 7
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