Hi there Islandgrower
On the topic of autoflower yields, it is claimed by those who specialize in them, growing them all the time, that the best yields are achieved when transplanting is entirely avoided. The seed is sown directly into the pot they will finish in.
They claim that transplanting triggers them into premature flower. I can't speak from experience, though, as I've never grown autoflowers. It's not a problem if the goal is to restrict their height by flowering early, in a short tent not designed for growing a 4 ft tall plant.
If I were to grow an indoor autoflower, in a short tent, I would do it in 2 gal pots. Not sure if its root system could fill out a 3 gal pot, especially if it's being forced to flower early, by transplanting it. I would love to see the root-ball on GrowViper's when he harvests it.
Cheers! - FF
Hi FF, just a quick shout out, I've learned a bunch for the info you post, thanks...glad to hear from you.
Since I'm new I'd just like to say that i see and read these generalities spread around our ecosystem.
I like generalities, I like understanding context and have some opinions on this topic, my opinions are just that and come from my 5 seasons of growing auto's exclusively but it's bias is being an OG. So I'm commenting on the statements not commenting on any one individual.
I'm going to use this reply to address
one thought that I have heard a bunch and my experience on that subject. I know that auto's is a tough sell in this group and I like that, but my experience give me a unique perspective and on the topic of up potting this is what i have learned.
I would agree with your statement above in general if I were flying at 10,000 feet and just taking to those "who specialize in them, growing them all the time" to me that means commercial growers. Coming from a strong operational background, why would you up pot , it doesn't make economic sense. The labor, cost in time and money plus introducing exposure to many more problems makes it a non starter. I just can't get by that one guardrail when i look at the context of the data.
I also have an opinion on autoflowers in general but i all give that when i answer your second post FF.
but I think I need to address this one point here,
Up potting with auto's - IMHO
I have seen 0 evidence in my 5 seasons, usually 3 plants per season i'll use 2 plants per season for this comment.
Thats 10 plants that all went thru 3 phases of up potting. 30 chances to see any issues that up potting if done correctly causes stress. Seeing no evidence in my grows drives my opinion.
Up potting is a tool nothing more, it has it's advantages and possible problems if not done right. I will go into why this tool has been essential in my 2x2 in my next post..
nuff said
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Jiffy>Solo cup size bag>Last bag before airpots>AirPots
I used Promix HP with 5 gal growbags as my final pot till last season I tried coco in one bag. This season I found my sweet spot with coco and airpots. My method was to wait till some side root growth is happening except the jiffy pots i usually would up pot a few days after the tap root is showing. I didn't ;like the consistency of the jiffy so i also tried rockwool but the coco pucks so =far are great.
IMHO
/steve
PS: Again I'll quote Dr MJcoco on this. I use his style as my control and mod it to my situation but It's always served me well, so safe to say, I trust Dr MJcoco as a solid starting point on any journey.
I recommend reading his context, i also look at education and work experience to further qualify is opinions. He's Top Notch just like the breeders here.
As Ronald Reagan one said , which I don't agree with almost everything he's about, But love this line.....
"Trust but Verify"
Quote:
Transplanting cannabis plants is the best way to develop a healthy root mass and ensure vigorous early growth. Whether you are starting from seeds or clones, in soil or coco, plants will do best in appropriately sized containers. This is true for all cannabis plants. There is a persistent myth in the cannabis community that auto-flowers should be started in final containers. However, like virtually all other potted plants, I recommend transplanting auto-flowers too. Unlike the myth, which suggests that it slows plants down, transplanting is a ubiquitous horticultural practice because it speeds plants up and produces better root structure.
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