Are SSH, Jack Herer and Diesel the same thing?

ukcheesehead said:
a cpl of yrs ago i got a pack of sensi jack herer from the expo in telford .
after germing them 10/10 and sexing them all 10 were male .
i emailed sensi and after a good 2 months they sent me a new pack .
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I was at that Expo and Arjan gave me a ton of free seeds, I remember asking the Sensi people if they had any freebies, they looked at me like I had just landed from Mars. Most expensive seeds I ever bought were Jack Herer in about 1997, I used to make a yearly trip to the Dam to buy seeds back then and I really liked the Jack Herer they were selling in the shop so shelled out for the seeds, split the pack with a friend, didn't find a keeper in my half, I was still naive and young then and thought that the bigger the price tag the better the plants so was rather upset. I've had really good Jacks since but it kinda put me off Sensi Seeds as at the prices they charge you really should be getting the best quality around. They are a big company in cannabis industry terms so if anyone was gonna offer replacements and good service, it should be Sensi.
 
Seeds were in orig Sensi pack.
Sensi would replace seeds with retailer proof of purchasing.

I just want to say, its not ok bashinng Sensi seeds company just cause retailer wont participate in seeds replacement.
Im not happy with some of their products/seeds but its for another story.

I understand to Sensi would replace seeds cause bad germination and it means they stand and offer guarantee for labeled packs.


No matter is that authorised dealer or not, its two totally different companies and they have own rules.

In this case - doors for knocking are Attitude's doors, not Sensi's.
 
I got four packs of the round packets, one was Church, forget what the others were, I definitely also had Big Bang and The Doctor but maybe not from the Expo as I also got some GHS freebie round packs in Holland that year.

We grew the lot in my mate's back garden, not that many germed, only 2 or 3 per pack and the plants were utter garbage, The Doctor refused to flower, The Church smel like piss and had hardly any resin, Big Bang hermied like mad, we got some hash from them but that was it.

At the Expo Arjan was handing out bags of untested hybrids, I still have them, one is Arjan's Haze x Church, one is Strawberry Haze x Arjan's Ultra Haze and I forget the other one. I tried germing some of the SH x AUH last year when I was trying to do an all Haze run and only one of out a dozen or so popped and it was male.

The garbage that was GHS Seeds in 2007 has improved a wee bit because they realised how shit thir stuff was and teamed up with Big Buddha and Apothecary which is where half of their new stuff came from, they also obtained new cuttings such as the Lemon Skunk and a new NL dom SSH. Arjan realised how bad his seeds had got so he threw some money at the problem.
 
None left, they all went into that outdoor grow, I remember some had stickers on though so I bet you're right. I recently ran a pack of their SLH and it was surprisingly good. Only ran em cos a friend gave me them, 3 germed, no signs of hermies, all had lovely taste and smell, tons of resin, but vigour and yield were lacking. I kept the best one as it has rock hard buds and beautiful taste/smell, I'm gonna pollinate it with my SSH male. I know it's a travesty to mix Mr Nice and GHS genes but this SLH is really nice smoke. Got cuts of it rooted if you fancy a try of it. Bushed out with a ton of budsites it should yield okay as all the buds are rock hard even at the bottom.
 
I think the Lemon Skunk is the reason it's so nice, the LS is beautiful smoke, so nice I am tempted to buy a pack of GHS LS, but I will feel dirty and wrong giving even a red cent to Arjan. The LS yields really big so whatever GHS crosed it to to make SLH must have been a very low yielding thing and the lack of vigour is also strange as you would figure crossing two unrelated plants, even using femmed pollen would give hybrid vigour. I should try to track down the LS cutting and make my own hybrid of it, I bet I can do way better than GHS have. LS x SSH should be great and I happen to have a SSH male I've saved for a few personal projects.
 
british_hempire said:
I think the Lemon Skunk is the reason it's so nice, the LS is beautiful smoke, so nice I am tempted to buy a pack of GHS LS, but I will feel dirty and wrong giving even a red cent to Arjan. The LS yields really big so whatever GHS crosed it to to make SLH must have been a very low yielding thing and the lack of vigour is also strange as you would figure crossing two unrelated plants, even using femmed pollen would give hybrid vigour. I should try to track down the LS cutting and make my own hybrid of it, I bet I can do way better than GHS have. LS x SSH should be great and I happen to have a SSH male I've saved for a few personal projects.
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I thought SLH was LSxSSH ????? I never grew it as GHS are banned from my rooms LOL...

peace
BL
 
That is the story but I doubt it, if it was SSH surely it would yield good and have vigour?

SSH, dependent on pheno can be a huge yielder and LS is a big yielder so how GHS managed to combine the two into a small yield is beyond me, must be some special trick Franco has! pmsl
 
Go breed us a proper SLH then mate, I'll be up for trying it for sure LOL....;)
Last time GHS were in any of my rooms was around 1999/2000, and was a wicked El Nino, Ahh what nice smoke she was.....
Wonder How the LS would combine to the NL5xHz I have????
peace
BL
 
Actually, the origins are well known. It is a cutting from the early 80s that was cultivated in Las Vegas. DNA Genetics obtained it a couple of years back and they sell a version using that cutting crossed to a Skunk#1 male they got from Eddy Rekedder.

DNA pissed off the guy who was holding the cutting for them so to get even he gave it to Arjan.

I don't think the Lemon Skunk is a Skunk#1, it is more indica leaning, the effect is one of those where you feel it in the head first and you feel like your temples are freezing, then a mean body stone kicks in. I suspect it's mostly indica.

I can find some pics of it if you want to see Nev.

I'll have a shot at the better SLH some day Billy. Ooh, NL5Haze, is that the original one? If yes, I'm prepared to part with a kidney or other major body part to obtain it! lol
 
british_hempire said:
Actually, the origins are well known. It is a cutting from the early 80s that was cultivated in Las Vegas. DNA Genetics obtained it a couple of years back and they sell a version using that cutting crossed to a Skunk#1 male they got from Eddy Rekedder.

DNA pissed off the guy who was holding the cutting for them so to get even he gave it to Arjan.

I don't think the Lemon Skunk is a Skunk#1, it is more indica leaning, the effect is one of those where you feel it in the head first and you feel like your temples are freezing, then a mean body stone kicks in. I suspect it's mostly indica.

I can find some pics of it if you want to see Nev.

I'll have a shot at the better SLH some day Billy. Ooh, NL5Haze, is that the original one? If yes, I'm prepared to part with a kidney or other major body part to obtain it! lol
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I wish it was 'the original' its from a pack from shanti I got going, I'd like it to be great....
I'd love to see your LS pics too mate...
peace
BL
 
hello folks,


Luis of BSC claims the lemon skunk and that it originated from him?.

http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=3252&page=2

L.Fritzman said:
About their temptative of beeing my partners with Breeder´s Choice/HHF we of course exchanged genetics they sent Mango Haze, Coco Haze, Sour Diesel, Sensi Star, New Berry and Black Colombian and PR seeds. In the trade I sent some of mines and I don´t care if Arjan or some of them are using my genetics in their strains I just want to show you guys that I have Lemon Skunk on my list of strains some time ago (since 2007) and here is her photo.
lemonsk.jpg
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hope this helps ?.




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Not my LS pics, never grown it, but smoked it a few times, I went to get the pics and turns out the thread has been deleted, probably because thcfarmer had a big falling out with DNA.

The Lemon Skunk from Luiz is different, I remember it on his list, I think it was a Lima Limon cross?

The Las Vegas LS has been around over 20 years as a cutting, I will ask some Nevada guys I know online if they can tell me more about it.
 
i can tell some of you do a lot of reading on these forum sites cause i am another that refuses to patronize ghs, but from their entire menu today only the ls interests me and that is from reading what others have to say about her.

it is also interesting that dna has been brought up. the last couple of years i have tried one of their lesser known strains outdoors and the results have been excellent. i am speaking of sweet haze. forever, i have been told that i live too far north at 41 degrees to grow haze or even a decent haze hyb but about five years ago i started playing with a few anyway and the sweet haze from dna has come about as close to real haze as i remember it to be. in particular, the sweetness in aroma and the snap in the taste are there and it finishes in 10 weeks. if you read the blurb posted by dna on sweet haze, note their claim that the haze in the hyb comes from the haze bros. doubtful? according to others, yes, it is doubtful cause in spite of dna being a couple of kids from caly most do not believe there was any contact twixt them and the haze bros? but it is a nice line of marketing shite and sweet haze is a decent line nonetheless. peace-biteme
 
I have been looking for pics of the LS and not found any. I did find some info,, in Las Vegas it's mostly known as 'Jack's Lemon' and is consdered to be very similar to the Green Crack cutting. Green Crack is a Skunk #1 x Afghan cross so that chimes with my thoughts about LS being an indica dom skunk, it could be like Green Crack, a Skunk x Afghan cross.

You got lucky with Sweet Haze, biteme, a friend ran 3 packs of it and they all hermied badly and seeded his entire crop. He was given them by DNA as compensation for some non-germing packs of Chocolope.

On the Haze Bros thing, I don't buy that for once second. Cantaloupe Haze's lineage is listed as Haze Bros Haze x Michoacan sativa, and that is 100% pure BS. I actually asked Aaron how he got a 8 week highly productive fruity strain out of Haze which is at least 16 weeks and Michoacan which is also a long flowering pure sat. He changed the subject and was clearly peed off at me. I think the accusation that Cantaloupe Haze is C99 is probably a lot closer to the truth than what DNA claim.

I decided that DNA had zero credibility left with me after they posted a ton of pics of reeferman's greenhouse work and claimed it was theirs, they also used pictures by Aqualab of a big hash run he did in Mexico and claimed they were theirs. They used the pics in some lectures they did and even had the gall to post a video of a lecture that included those pics on their website. Truth is, Aqualab and Aaron were friends and Aqualab emailed the pics to Aaron to show him what he'd been upto down in Mexico and Aaron backstabbed him by using them and claiming it was actually him and Don making hash in the pics. The hash run I'm referring to is the one where they put a ton of bubblehash through a meat grinder as an experiment, it ruined the hash so it was used to make 'Potcorn' - popcorn made with cannabutter at the following year's HTCC.

There's a ton more dirt about DNA to share but I'm not interested in raking over old coals, let's just say they are the equivalent of Arjan - good marketing with feck all to back it up. Sadly they are far from unique in the Amsterdam scene which is full of similarly unethical and bogus characters.
 
biteme

anint that the truth ,you wont know unless you try ,same as my experience with NH ive had sucess outdoors in NYC .

happy to hear you had a good sample

as for sweet haze IME it pretty to look at but wasnt anything special ,dark tone wit a sweetness dominating the flavor and effects were nothin impressive ,the haze bros haze in the cross reportedly comes from the CH ,im curious as to the haze in the skunk haze mother

the lemon skunk was equally unimpressive and i was really surprised by the hype of the strain

i doubt the claim that dna had any haze bros stock, as they didnt seem very knowledgable about the subject when we spoke

i will say ive been impressed with the majority of the catalouge ive experienced ,la con /purple wreck /chocolope to name a few


1luvbigherb
 
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one day i will get to grow lemon skunk i germinated lemon skunk from dna 3 times and shortly after each it i had to get rid for one reason or another. come to think of it i don't think i will try it again it's seems to bring me bad luck. it dose sound nice though. i have a dna sour cream here growing along side my criticalxhaze and cxh is 110% better then it. there is no haze smell to it and it hermied early flower not to bad picked them of and had no more since.
 
if billys isnt what ya wanted, i just got hold of a 15yr old nl5xhaze cut, guys been workin it for all that time so he said to a friend.

carnt tell ya bugger all about her as i havent run her yet. another friend got 2 weeks left on her, so will know more then.
 
Nevil said:
So what is the legend behind the Lemon Skunk prior to Arjan getting it?
N.
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You know more than my self who Arjan is ...
however, I bet on this link same like Ingemar's & Arjan's story about White Widow.
Ingemar's Lemon
http://growshopalien.com/onlineshop/contents/media/lemonnen.JPG

GHS - Lemon Skunk
http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/504/LS006.jpg


Ingemar's story about White Widow
http://www.sjamaan.com/forum/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=11&TopicID=2988&PagePosition=1
 
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