Holy Grail test under hps

MAKAVELI

MAKAVELI

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Hi Guys!
I’m testing out some seeds I got at auction. I started with seven—first in a glass of water, then moved to small pots under a grow light; six days later, three have sprouted so far. Meanwhile, I also put six seeds in cotton inside a heated mini-propagator a few days ago, but nothing has happened yet—only two other seeds from an accidental cross have sprouted. Can anyone tell me how long the vegetative stage should last? Seven to ten days max? I’m currently using 6L pots; I plan to transplant to 12L after three weeks, then finish in 18L–25L fabric pots at the five-week mark. Good idea or bad?

Here is the first release.

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MAKAVELI said:
Can anyone tell me how long the vegetative stage should last? Seven to ten days max? I’m currently using 6L pots; I plan to transplant to 12L after three weeks, then finish in 18L–25L fabric pots at the five-week mark. Good idea or bad?
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They wont slip into flower mode until they are old enough, but putting on 12/12 basically from seed is a trick Ive read Shanti recomending for this or another heavy sativa hybrid. If it is a good idea depends on your grow style and tent. Doing the 12/12 early and training it for many tops then, once you up pot it doing a scrog, would help alot with stretch and make it potentially work for you. I usually go the opposite route and root restrict with smaller managble pots, and instead flower out clones. Especially under a powerful LED I find the stretch managable on most strains.

What size tent do u have and how many plants and will u be growing single cola, multi cola, or scrogg? Hopefully someone who has grown this with a similar setup can let u know what their experiences were.

Good luck, I hope you find your Holy Grail!
Also, I think ot was Hoky Smoke that I read Shanti saying ot shpuld be sprouted at 12/12 for indoor restricted height grows
 
“Nature doesn’t hurry, yet everything is accomplished." - Lao Tzu

Plan around your plants not the other way around. They may not always be on your time schedule as you have experienced from your germination times. Some questions to ask yourself- have you grown sativas before? Do you have the room? If you’ve read the description, be prepared for large specimens. As these plants typically will grow 4-5x their veg height, plan your veg time so that plants are 1/4-1/5 the size of finished product before switching to flower. If you are height restricted, be prepared to top or LST your plants.
Consider keeping in 6 liter pots until preflower. Then transfer females to final pots. Economize your soil and your time this way by not dealing with up-potting (potential) males. Continue veg of females in final pots until they have sufficient rooting and reach desired height to begin flower. Good luck, she is a magnificent variety.

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Hi Guys!
So, I have 3 Holy Grail plants that are 4 to 6 days old. I saw some 36-liter fabric pots at the shop and I’m wondering whether to get them; worst-case scenario, I just wouldn't fill them all the way up. A long time ago, I had just two plants in fabric pots—ones I’d brought inside because slugs had nearly devoured them—and I ended up with record-breaking yields. My grow space is 1.20m x 1.20m x 2m, and the plants are currently in 3.5L pots. I’ve grown a few Haze strains before—I even took a Mango Haze all the way to 19 weeks, haha—though I think that was because they got too hot during flowering. I know their vigor is insane and the temperature is hard to manage—not to mention the humidity... I’m wondering if I should move them into 12L or even 36L pots (or something smaller) in a few days. Shanti used to say that a plant needs three weeks to trigger flowering anyway, so I could either just wait three weeks, or wait two weeks, top them, let them recover for a week, and then switch to an 11/13 light cycle.

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Under HPS I would bend/top them and go for 18L pots when growing in soil.
That should be more than big enough and still make for a practical wet/dry cycle when feeding.
I would transplant them in 10-14 days, they will be stronger and far easier to handle.
11/13 does work well with heavy sat dominant plants but you can also start from 12/12 and gradually lower over a few weeks.
That always gave good results for me.
Nice start. :)
 
Hi Guys!
After about one week, they’ve been repotted into 10L pots. I’ve got 3 HG plants and 2 seeds found in a Mac N Jack that was pollinated by a hermaphrodite Spumoni 🧐🫥—if I see anything weird, they’re out. In two weeks, I’ll repot them into whatever I can find around the 18L size. We’ve stepped up from 400 to 600 now and we’re starting with the fertilizer used by NASA 🥶

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Hi Guys,
Three weeks since the 12/12 began; one female remains.
At this stage, only a few pistils are barely visible at the internodes. One branch has split in two, even without any topping. I still have 4 small plants to fill the space.
The bulb is brand new. The nutrient regimen for Haze strains is more challenging; I’m using the TA TriPart series with standard dosages, but I’d like to fine-tune it.
Last watering: Grow 1.8 mL/L, Micro 2 mL/L, Bloom 1.5 mL/L, Seaweed 5 mL/L, Bloom Booster 5 mL/L.

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I hope she will take up space.

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When you rub the trunk, your fingers smell strongly of incense and mango.
There was a male that was much sturdier—absolutely insane;
I might post a screenshot soon.
Currently, it’s 22.5°C during the day and 17.5°C at night.
 
MAKAVELI said:
When you rub the trunk, your fingers smell strongly of incense and mango.
There was a male that was much sturdier—absolutely insane;
I might post a screenshot soon.
Currently, it’s 22.5°C during the day and 17.5°C at night.
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That sounds very promising, strong incense on the stem is a very good indicator.
I've encountered a couple of plants that had incense in the smoke.
Only one of them has that profound incense smell and taste when burned and that is my SSH cut.
She is the only one of those that has that strong incense smell on the stem rub and she does not smell like cannabis at all in veg and flower.

Do post that male, would love to see him.(y)
 
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