SSH and Mango Haze are pedigree breeds incorporating both sides of Haze A and Haze C combinations....in their breeding

[bluntmassa]

G `day VTI

You are getting a little obsessed there bro .
When did you last have a proper nights sleep ?

Not an Ozzie ?
Well ,they don`t get these lil fckers like this one in my back yard on any other continent that I am aware of .

Or is that a fake wallaby as well ??

Go have a lie down and come back when you are making sense . lol .


Back to the chase ...
I have 30 C5 x Jack Herer in flower ATM . Been growing these 4 plants for 18 months continuously . Getting to know them better . The double serration on the fan leaf trait from the C5 carries through . Also the pine terps on some phenos . They are the highs I prefer over the skunky perfumed ones ,which have a much crashier come down from the high .

Worth the wait .

Thanks for sharin

EB .

Hey, we have chupacabras in America too. Lol, Tasmania devil pics or you ain't an Ozzy. I still want to visit those animals are almost from another planet. Plus I imagine the BBQ shrimp is amazing.

 

[bluntmassa]

well if a scammer can produce seeds that produce platns that are as good or better than shanti's, then that scammer should start up a seedbank dont you think?

i thought you were interested in talking about this topic but i see you have some axe to grind.
but its not with me buddy.
are you sad that you didnt get your hands on these genetics yet?
id be happy to make seeds and send them in to shanti to give as freebies.

They did, Nirvana Seeds they are all hacks of some of the best and the quality at least used to be pretty good, not too mention how many breeders have a decent Widow?

Of course I never heard of anyone actually receiving seeds from Rimmeo everyone I heard of just got ripped off completely.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

Hey, we have chupacabras in America too. Lol, Tasmania devil pics or you ain't an Ozzy. I still want to visit those animals are almost from another planet. Plus I imagine the BBQ shrimp is amazing.

Hey blunt. Did you see the pics from my holiday in Mexico.?

 

[Elmer Bud]

C5 x A5 / Thai

Incense and leather terps .

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

hola pendejo

Sweet bud pawn man

You got a story to tell about it?
Like where did you download it from?

You ever going to come off that high horse you riding Elmer spice?

I guess it's hard, dealing with normal people. But it could be character building for you.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

Urs is bigger than mine.
))-;

Some critical skunk that didn't blow up.

 

[bluntmassa]

Oh yeah, any push back on me outing Old Spice avatar as your alt?
Or you don't want any attention on that?

Huh, I never really paid much attention myself, I've gotten a little into it with EB on genetics, but I really give no fucks on the exact exact pedigrees of SSH and MH. There's Shantibaba's word which is good enough for me anyway, then there are numerous other people making claims. I know at one point I read SSH was an F4 Skunk Haze x F4 nl#5 Haze, then I've heard it was just a pollyhybrid of the two F1's. I would like to see Shantibaba post the actual work, but it's SSH so the actual breeding process ain't going to change anything.

But I have caught onto to people posting under multiple accounts, I mean really if you are trying to sell seeds you can post grows in different grow rooms and praise the shit out of your seeds and make a small fortune. I've actually thought about it. Lol, of course if I ever get into seed sales I'm going to be like KC Brains or Nirvana (pre fem seeds) or MNS auctions. I just hate how expensive seeds are and kind of want to spread the genetics almost freely, of course there has to be some cost but I don't really care about being a multi millionaire especially when I can chuck pollen on clone onlys on my free time for the fuck of it. Plus I love my bubble hash like my avatar, just can't buy it in New England and concentrates seem a bit subpar.

But yeah when you are getting $100+ for 10 seeds of something you can chuck together in a closet and make thousands of in a damn closet, you know people are pulling some shit on forums just to hype their own brand. It's too easy and it's been done before.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

Hey old spud/Elmer spice, seeing as we are speaking about you, it's obvious you have a right of reply mate.
It would be rude to just be sledging you for fun.
But I did ask you for input already.

Are you out in the back paddock playing with Skippy??

Yes Blunt, it wouldn't be too hard at all to run a con job, especially with people these days, accepting such low standard of proof.

As Jack said the other day, if someone tells him something, it's not up to him to decipher if it is even probable. He feels free to regurgitate it as fact.

So EB sits back and pretends he is from OZZSTRALIA, let's say as an example.
Does something BARELEY CREDIBLE, in fact CHILDISHLY RIDICULOUS, like posting a picture of a wallaby , as proof that he is from Ozztralia..

When asked how that proves anything, he MISDIRECTS, and doesn't actually answer.
He uses fake indignation, and answers something like, WHILE I DON'T KNOW WHICH OTHER COUNTRY HAS WALLABY EXCEPT OZZSTRALIA.
But he hasn't proved a thing.

To shore himself up, He goes n boots his alt.
Jumps into a few threads, and drops the casual tip how his other, main avatar, is clearly from Ozzstralia. And a lot of other stuff, just to pad out the back story.
Maybe how EB is so brilliant, that he attracts haters. And a bit of other shade too.

Then any interest by anyone that isn't PURE WORSHIP, can be dismissed as emotional.
Envy for his stuff, or dissatisfaction, cos the other party can ONLY GROW F-GRADE HAZE, say.
You know, just gaslight the fuck out of it.

Then you get a few simpletons.
Like SIMPLE JACK, say.
Without the capacity, and most importantly, NO DESIRE TO SIFT TRUTH FROM BULL SHIT, AND WITH THE HOPE THAT EVEN THE MOST OUTLANDISH STORY IS TRUE, then you are on your way to BUILDING A MYTH.

Now you get a couple of people running inferiority complex, and a deep desire to feel superior, in possession of special genetics, etc. and THESE STOOGES will act like foot soldiers.

Spruiking the scam as truth.

The USEFUL FOOL, otherwhise known as a STOGOGE doesn't even have to know the truth, obviously.
They will argue. to the death to defend what they think is true, because to them it is.
After all, they WANT IT BE TRUE, even if it isn't even reasonable.

Yeah, that could probably happen very easily Blunt.

But it wouldn't happen here, would it?????

After all, Old spud/Elmer spice proved he's from OZZTRALIA, didn't he????

Bit hard for me to work it out, after all, you know with my mental health issues and all.

but thanks for sharing.....


( hey Elmer, you posted that same pic of the wallaby years ago.
Is that your only stock photo?
Mate if those big rats r chomping through your back paddock, wouldn't you have another one? Plenty of them out Tenterfield way, isn't there?

Maybe time to find someone to send you another pic.
You know, to keep your character's back story at least halfway believable.....
Thank you for sharing)

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

Anyway, back to my trip to Mexico.
I'm really interested in finding strains to use in cannabis health support.
Mexican strains offer heaps for effects, and don't necessarily even have to be the most potent. A lot of patients don't enjoy being totally fried, obviously, so it's just the quality of the buzz that counts.

Mexico and the Philippines was one entity for almost 300 years.
New Spain.
They were connected by the annual galleon.
I wonder if the Mexican buzziness and spear bud formation was influenced some how by Philo. stock.

The holiday snap is one of the locals I ran into.

Viva la marhawanna.

 

[bluntmassa]

Mexico was definitely a fine place for genetics, I imagine some of the farmers even kept some of the best bred fairly decent. You would at least hope one of them have an Oaxacan on Kangavita's level. I mean there has to be Sativa loving Mexicans, how else was Speedy Gonzalez so fast? Lol

Of course it's actually safer in Afghanistan than Mexico which I would rather travel for new genetics, we really don't have all that wide of a variety of Afghans on the market. Chances are Nevil never actually got too close to the absolute best Afghan seeds in the country. Really seems like we have much more variety of Sativa genetics on the market. Just who really has the balls to ride a camel all over Afghanistan to search for the absolute best Afghans? Especially since some of the radicals will kill you just for smoking hash. I might actually do it if I get cancer, I have been thinking I'd much rather die on my feet than slowly in a hospital.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

Shame about your health issues man.
Hope you are doing OK.

Some real interesting stuff in northern India/Nepal that could be selected./collected.
Going across through Pak, Iran, Syria/Lebanon Egypt and across to Maroc.
Even if those have been outcrossed to modern stock, they still maintain a lot of valuable diversity.

Also out of Africa a lot now.

It's a bit hard to select in Phil, atm, because their pres doesn't mind murdering ppl, even for weed.
But no way all the natty stuff is gone from Phil, or Indo.
They have so many islands, the environment doesn't suit quick maturing plants ( they mature too short. Because of the equatorial day length) and there isn't much money to bring new jeans into the gene pool.
I think Shanti may have mentioned PNG as an area of interest also.

Bit dicey going to any country where ppl would cut/blast you, on sight, simply because you look like a crusader/yt oppressor, or a walking wallet.

A HUGE collection of central American heritage genetics being line-bred in private collections in Can/Usa as well.

Take care man.

 

[jack hairy]

ive got some PNG, but you wont believe me cause i cant prove where they came from
150 days flowering

 

[bluntmassa]

I said if I get cancer, I'm healthy now thankfully, but I've watched my father die slowly of cancer which makes me want to do something crazy that will probably get me killed if I ever get cancer. I was thinking about maybe spear hunting lions, who knows if I die in battle I might enter Valhalla. Lol

I'm still more interested in Afghan landraces though, people get ahold of Pakistani and shit all the time, nobody is getting ahold of Afghans I almost think Nevil was the last person to score Afghan seeds. Definitely been few and far between of people collecting pure Afghans.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

ive got some PNG, but you wont believe me cause i cant prove where they came from
150 days flowering

You can talk theory too, on this site, Jack.
It's not just about growing, but a medical community also.

If you have something positive to say, I'm sure other members are happy to read you.

Peace.

 

[jack hairy]

so since some of these guys get a kick out of stories,
did you here about afghan shadow king?

i dont remember what site or forum or whatever, but someplace had some expensive sees for auction.
one of them was health robinsons black rose.
yet another case of shady business, not on heath but whoever was selling the seeds.
heath didnt want them for sale, just shared or something like that.

so my friend wins the auction , and because of some other issue, is given 4 packs of black rose hybrids along with the pure.
black rose x purple wreck
black rose x purple kush
black rose x afghan shadow king
black rose x sour bubble

someone named muddy paws may have made the hybrids, or at least the purple wreck one.
thats about all i can remember about that fiasco.

so the afghan shadow king...
some military busted some taliban(i think) operation and liberated the seeds.
im sure there is a more entertaining version of the story somewhere.
but i dont remember so im not going to make it up.

i dont think i have any seeds of that line,
but i do still have the purple wreck cross mixed with NH,
and f2's of the puple kush cross.
sent shanti a little over 400 (ok yes, 420) of those seeds to give as freebies right when they instituted that policy about no sharing seeds unless its through them.
never heard if anyone got there hands on them, they probably went in the garbage.
i imagine they are drowning in seeds already.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

so since some of these guys get a kick out of stories,

Why can't you make s single post without a backhanded compliment, an insult, or some silly innuendo?

Do you even know what snark is?
I don't get how respectful communication is so difficult for you

Can't you help yourself, but to be snarky?

How are you going working on that IMPULSE CONTROL ISSUE??

It's telling too man, that while blunt and I were chatting about generalities in collecting strains, you choose to tell some fantastic tale, ABOUT YOURSELF.
What was that about narcissistic personality disorder??

 

[jack hairy]

well, for one, this is a thread i started. you are welcome to take your off topic posts elsewhere.

second, the story wasnt about me, its about an afghan variety that was supposedly brought back much more recently than the old afghans that were being discussed.

third, i havnet shown you disrespect, quite the contrary, i continue to debate with you on whatever rational thoughts you manage to form. its just you arent giving me enough to work with.

you keep crying about how others should behave, and are completely oblivious to your own actions.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

I said if I get cancer, I'm healthy now thankfully, but I've watched my father die slowly of cancer which makes me want to do something crazy that will probably get me killed if I ever get cancer. I was thinking about maybe spear hunting lions, who knows if I die in battle I might enter Valhalla. Lol

I'm still more interested in Afghan landraces though, people get ahold of Pakistani and shit all the time, nobody is getting ahold of Afghans I almost think Nevil was the last person to score Afghan seeds. Definitely been few and far between of people collecting pure Afghans.

Fuck man, lucky I misunderstood.
You know how you get pre-Soviet invasion ghan genetics, while they are 41+years old now.
Since then that country had been in almost constant warfare.
I think it's hard enough to keep people alive.
Let alone maintain strains for so long in that environment.
Just up from mazar I shareef you have Uzbek.

You might be lucky there.

But that pre-Soviet invasion name is there for a reason.
Petrloia HS looks good.and also the Afghan black from usc.
Buy I'm thinking that is black Kandy cross ghan#1.
The Kandahar that BOEL and Mr China Syndicate of that time imported, a euphoric head buzzing black Kandy.
Pretty sure this is the strain that DJ Short used/uses in his work, a resin factory type.
But the usc version is more narcotic.
They aren't what you are looking for, obviously.

 

[Vlad the Inhaler]

well, for one, this is a thread i started. you are welcome to take your off topic posts elsewhere.

second, the story wasnt about me, its about an afghan variety that was supposedly brought back much more recently than the old afghans that were being discussed.

third, i havnet shown you disrespect, quite the contrary, i continue to debate with you on whatever rational thoughts you manage to form. its just you arent giving me enough to work with.

you keep crying about how others should behave, and are completely oblivious to your own actions.

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The thread doesn't actually belong to you.

This is Shanti's board mate.

I don't want to debate you, I actually just want to chat.

But you seem to just want to snark out at any opportunity.

It's beyond me man.
I'm sorry I thought you had it in you to grow.
I'll stop suggesting better behaviour to you.
Non worries.
I made suggestions to you with love man, honestly hoping you would grow a little.
But you just think they are rhetorical points, apparently.
Accusing me now of lack of awareness.
I've been trying to pull back from you.
But you seem to want to win, or something.
Mimicry is the highest form of flattery.
Peace.

##and point #2, you're speaking about a much more recent Afghan than Blunt and I were.
You understand we were discussing pre'78 strains.
WTF had your much more recent than the old strains we were discussing have to do with it?

 

[jack hairy]

you shoulda stopped pages ago, but thanks

the thread does not belong to me, it belongs to mns and all its members.
and the topic is about correcting errors in pedigree details.
or correcting our understanding of what the pedigree detail weve been given means.
but im thinking it s the first one.

how do you do those signature things.
if you can do that here, i think im going to make mine

IM SNARKY