neville *Mango

Hi aktarus,

Since you're still in the end of second week in flower they should recover and bush up. I'm just a little worried because the plants are under 11/13 witch will speed things up a little.

It's a heavy sativa hybrid, things should go ok for you :)
 
Hi Buddha :)
i made this to control height mainly and to make them bush up as you say , i hope it will work as intended .

I think i wont cut them any more , because bud will be begining ,just some bending next time.

Also for the nute i mixed veg and flower as they are streching and in a "transition" phase. is that ok or should i go with the flower nute only ?

Heavy sativa hybryd with fruity flavour and neville high , iam in love with this strain what can you ask more :D
 
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Hi aktarus,

The extra Nitrogen in the veg nutes will make them grow even bigger. I never tryed the Neville's Haze x Mango but with my Neville's Haze plants i never used veg nutes.

Here's my recipy for Neville's Haze:

3 parts all purpose soilmix 10-10-10
1 part river sand
1 part worm castings
1 tsp of granular nutes 7-7-14 + 2 Mg per gallon of soil

After being in that mix, they were feeded with Black Molasses (15ml/gallon) + Kelp 1-0-4 (at half recomended dose) + a few drops of Superthrieve, once every 2 weeks. The rest was plain watter at PH 7.0. They loved it!

As you can see, i'm not very experienced with liquid nutes :D

Do you have height room for them to grow tall?

Note: i forgot, the plants were also foliar feeded with the same mix once every 2 weeks.
 
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Hi Aktarus,

Your male is heavily trimmed, i cannot see his structure :(

In any case, you can do a small test to have an idea of what he has to offer. Rub your fingers against the steams and smell them…. see if you can distinguish any particular smell. I like my males to have deep and fragrant fruity smells (not nasty!) and hope they are able to donate aroma to the offspring. Since it’s a Neville’s Haze cross he can have a hazy smell also, in that case it’s more likely to be Haze influenced. The mango influenced individuals should have more fruity smells (i have to check this one with L33t as i never did that hybrid).

I don’t know what criteria you have chosen to follow in the selection of that male (you had 6 males, right?). Is he a heavy brancher or not? Does he have longer internodes or shorter than the others? Is he the most vigorous grower of the bunch (or one of the most vigorous)? And finally, how does he flower? Does he take longer or less time than the others? Does he produce abundant amount of pollen sacks? Does he stretch a lot or not? Here you have some questions that are important to have answers for.

Finally, and I cannot stress this enough, flower your male candidates and force them to reveg. This is a very important stress test. If a plant has any kind of hermie tendencies it will most likely fail this test ;)
 
I would say what you see is 1/3 what left of it after trimming ,he was very branchy ;)
His purpose is just to make me few seeds of each plant ,first try for me and seeds ,so i will leave him with only few balls to not waste all the bud ,do you think it will work with the male trimmed for fewer pollen ?

Or should i go with isolate it and do manual with the brush ?

I got a bad nose so i cant rely much on selection with the smell yet .

It was not the tallest one and with the most pollen sack on it but he was midrange and the leaf design and bush style was appealing enough to me.

Overall it looked good ,i think its a good neville pheno and hazy /branchy too .

Other nice male had alot of pollen sack and was bigger but the structure was to simple and straight to me .

Some were smaller and nothing special to be found on them .


After i noticed how every single branch twice itself in a awsome way !
Have you notcied it on the picture ?

i may select a mother from one female to make a rescue too if i find one worth keeping , but selecting now is not easy .
 
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Hi Aktarus,

Pollinating is a very simple task and you don’t need an entire male to do it right. They produce much more pollen than needed to produce a few hundred seeds ;)

I’m going to teach you a simple trick i learned over the years. Let the male flower in the flowering room until the first pollen sacks are formed and almost ready to open. When this time comes remove him from the flowering room and place him at a window or under florus, or any other grow light you have (mines were always at my window). When the pollen sacks open, collect the pollen with a knife with a large dry blade, and place the collected pollen in aluminium paper (the one that is used in the kitchens). After 2 or 3 days of collecting pollen remove the selected females from the flowering room, grab a brush and pollinate 2 or 3 of the lower branches (or one of the top ones). Now comes the important part, grab a piece of newspaper and enclose the pollinated branches, closing the overtures with clips. Again place the females in the flowering room and give them 48 hours. After, remove them from the flowering room, remove the newspapers and clips from the branches and spray them well with tap water (this will destroy the pollen). Now you can safely place the females again in the flowering room without fear of making unwanted seeds. Give them a few weeks in flower and you should have perfectly mature seeds (if I remember correctly I usually gave mines 4 or 5 weeks).

Female selection is easy. The keeper is the one witch the mason jar empty first :D

Note: Pollinate all females. Save the seeds from the keeper(s) and discard the rest :)
 
Hi Buddha you always got good advice here :)

I will do it that way you explained ,look simple .

How do you handle seed , i would wait for the bud to dry 2 week and collect them ,then store them cool and dark is it ok?

Dam man iam so exited about this quality strain and the work involved by NEville and Shanti , this is top notch thank you all for that being possible !

PS :Anyone think i should clone all 6 femalle and wait till smoke report to keep one mum ?
This is my first Mns experience and that strain attract me alot , if i have to make a keeper , that is from the first pack right ?
 
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Hi Aktarus,

Most of the time it was my personal preference to keep the seeds in the buds wile drying, giving them an extra time to mature... although after 5 weeks they were pretty ready.

My seeds were stored in the fridge, in small labelled plastic bags, inside a sealed hard plastic container (I think it’s called Tupperware). I had thousands of my own production, and always with excellent germination results.

Now don’t forget to give us updates once in a wile… we love diaries :)

Note: Yes, you should clone all your females prior to flowering (or during the first weeks in this case). When a keeper is selected you just have do discard all other moms. And don't forget to take at least 2 clones from each plant. Sometimes a clone does not root and you wouldn't want to lose a keeper because of it.
 
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Hi Buddha thank you for the tips ;i dont know if i will clone anything yet ,i cut them enough so far and forgot to keep some cut ;(

The male here doesnt look so happy , but after being trimmed i can understand it :



On the female side nothing much , they are recovering still from trimming ,not much growth;waiting for the soil to dry ...
 
Hi aktarus,

Don't worry; you should still have time to take clones. Even when the plants are in flower you can still take cuts and root them... it's just less advisable.

Please consider getting some kelp or Nitrozyme for foliar feeding. plants reaction is admirable. Nitrozyme is able to increase your yelds as much as 20%... tested ;)

Remember, what i'm doing for you is the same someone have done for me... and one day you might do for others.

Above all, we all wish you a happy harvest :)
 
Hi Buddha ,
I use algamix as foliar feeding on a dayli basis , i use also some cannazym; dont know if it compare to nitrozym tho.
 
Good morning aktarus,

I did a search on Algamix (as i never used it myself) and it seams to be a seaweed extract (kelp), so you should be fine :)

The idea is for you to have the best results possible for a first try with the hybrid and later improve from there. So keep doing what you’re doing as the plants are looking healthy green.

Always pay attention to the new grow. It’s a good indicative of how the plants are reacting to your treatments. Judging by the pictures yours are looking perfect.
 
Hi ,
AlgAmix is pretty good and safe to use on foliar and with watering .

I tried it previously on some indica and they showed that nice green all the time .


Forget it about the clone its no a good idea with all the trimming done recently and i will focus on a keeper mom later , thinking more of a neville if i have to keep one.

They doing great now ,more pistil ,next watering will maybe a flush ,i think it could help .
Some are early with big leaves and one is not event showing much pistil just long branching :)
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Hi aktarus,

A picture of health! Very strong new grow :)

The one not showing much pistils, just long branching, is the more Haze influenced.

Treat her gently; the smoke from the Haze is amazing ;)
 
Hi ,
Its hard to say but i could believe i stopped the strech with my trimming , it look like they are no more going for height and are focusing on pistil , its good but its my opinion.

For the several week of flowering to come i bet they have a plan ;)
In my dream they have stopped their growth and going for bud only now and the real bushy style , i hope they will be nice with me and do it that way hehe .

Overall they got the same height and a good structure and enough budsite to my liking ,the cool tube is the only bad thing because the light doesnt go far enough on the side of my tent ; it does have a particular "wide" design :1m20*60 by 1m60 height.

I will be trimming more lower branch and flower to promote upper flowering in a week or so .


Any advice welcome and some picture to come :)
 
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Hi aktarus,

I never did the hybrid you’re growing, just the Neville’s Haze (3 packs), so there’s no way for me to be sure about their stretch. My favorite NH plants were quite stretchers and could take as long as 22 weeks under 12/12… but I had so much fun gardening them it’s hard to tell. And what a high :)

The Mango Haze influence is unknown to me (they are on my wish list), but I suspect they would be kinda like the SSH, with some shorter flowering plants in the bunch. It should lower the Neville’s flowering time quite a bit.

You should have the best of both worlds, some plants more Mango influenced, some more like the Neville’s. Overall, should be a splendid experience to prepare your gardening skills for a very balanced NH grow ;)

The problem with the Neville’s is not growing them, they are quite hardy plants… but to do it like a gardener should. Perfect leaves, no curling upside or down, no burnings. That demands a bit of experience, something you are gaining right now. I think you did a good primary choice with the hybrid before entering the “chosen ones” field, although the SSH or MH or even La Nina would be good alternatives as well. But the important is that you feel happy :D

I hope you to present us with some detailed pictures before trimming.
 
Hi buddha ,

the light are off now and they are wet from me spraying some canna bio boost :)





Pistil showing everywhere , they are very happy and not much height growth again , smell is coming nicely ,tomorow some plain watering is planned .
 
Hi aktarus,

They are indeed looking very healthy ;)

Now let's see if you can keep them looking that perfect until flush time.

How many weeks do they have in bloom already?

And can you picture the more Hazy expression tomorrow? I miss looking at my girls :D
 
Hi Buddha ,
They got a month of flowering time now ,the most hazy one is funny because very skinny , i 'll take her outside for picture tomorow :)

The male doesnt hurry up much on making pollen sack tho ,i gave hime some nute as i felt it was a bit pale ...

they are in 6l. pot now i plan on repoting in 11l pot for final florwering , when do you think its the best time to do it ? i was thinking in 2 or 3 week max...
 
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