The Great Cheese Deception

[deran]

10 cuttings from 1 mother, will give you 10 different products when given to 10 ppl 4 growing

structure, taste, yield, smell, even high/stoned will vary

you will find the common denominator, but often you wont

and that all within just one grow (2-3 months) , now imagine what happens after a few years

 

[Anushka]

yeah whenever mate

cheers, it is good to be back online & healthy-ish

sorry for the hijack,let the shitfest continue by all means

 

[dr Rockster]

Hi Riz,this is my new online name lol ya think i'll get many offers?

Glad you thought the same about that bit of smoke you tried,she did smell very cheesey growing but you always wonder if you are letting any effect your descision.There were 2 this run which where that pheno but after grwoing ch#1 i can honestly say there are more cheesey phenos in the ch#1,this girl would require one more incross for me to feel confident about saying that we got cheese into seed form using normal breeding methods.

Alright Rockster,how's tricks you cantankerous old bastard?[it's voodoo by the way-i've had a sex change and feel i wanna shout to the world about it

Hey Shogun the suicide is a yeidler,sorry to say the opposite of what you are but are you sure that your source is legit?I've grown the suicide a few times now and last run got 5.73 k from 5400wts,so over a g/w,in soil with drippers,no boosts such as pk- plus we had to cut down early and throw away ten ounce of rot.

Aint it a twat when someone flat out contradicts you?i personally can't stand it but felt for the honour of the suicide lady that i had to speak up,not tryin to piss on your parade fella.

Hi Anushka

Long time no hear and hope is all well with you?

I agree with what you say about Cheese#1 as the first generation although all cheesy had a lot of variation but after back crosses is far more uniform in structure
as well as chemotype.

 

[Anushka]

Hi Rockster,you misunderstand me mate,i meant about mine & Sonic's cross,the suicide shimla one.I would only feel confident saying we had got cheese into reg seed form with a re-inforcing of said phenotype to increase the % in any group is what i meant.Bet you thought voodoo is being a fucking tit lolol
Nothing wrong with you saying that about ch#1 fella,it's a correct statement but i would agree you could lock the phenotypes down some more structure wise,but i'd also say its not necessary,plenty of time for that and it's secondary to what you have already acheived.Plus people like to choose there own rather than be told which pheno to go for it wouldnt be an issue if you never did that imo.

All good hear thanks mate,been severly depressed for around a year but getting better thanks.

Give us a shout sometime if you get a minute,i can give you my email or phone#.

good to hear from you mate

 

[dr Rockster]

Please send me your email and phone ole bean.

There ya go, a leetle Exodus/Haze/Cheese#1 cross I'm working on.

 

[Anushka]

Will send it to you next time i'm here,got some shopping to do online right now but i won't forget[he says hopefully ]

Which haze did you use?Is this a bx of your haze line you have for sale or was that male from your first cheese escapade,Rocksters cheese?

Riz gave me some pollen from the ch#1 but unfortunately it didnt take,think i fucked up the freezing/thawing process & now i've got mosiac virus so just keeing em alive is a feat in itself!

 

[Demon1]

Hey guys
In recent years one of the more popular varieties on the internet has been the UK Cheese variety(s). Having been a member of these forums for almost ten years now, I can remember when the only time cheese was talked about on the forums was in munchy threads. But I can actually remember the first time I heard of the variety from the UK known as cheese, and I can tell you with 100% certainty every UK Cheese clone Ive seen since then has not looked like the original UK Cheese plant.

The Original UK Cheese

Below is some information about Cheese from Sam the Skunkman, who is widely credited with the introduction of Skunk #1 to Holland.



Here are some UK Cheese Cuts that look absolutely nothing like the original, in fact Ive not seen one cutting of UK Cheese that resembles the original. Now considering the nature of cuttings themselves, this leads me to believe there are quite a few fraudulent UK Cheese cuts. Sure, there are cuts being called 'Cheese' that floating around out there, but for some strange reason they dont resemble the original cutting at all.

Suspect UK Cheese

Suspect UK Cheese

How come all of these UK Cheese varieties look so much different from one another? This leads the casual observer to believe there are quite a few different versions of the cut, but none of them resemble the original UK Cheese.


A version of events about the UK Cheese.

the facts.the pic jessie claims is the original cheese was posted on overgrow in early 2003 by queejo who now works under the bco baner .homegrown fantasy were given there cheese cut in 2002 by cf and crew.the facts are easy to find,making it obvious which cheese cut is the original and oldest and where and who this cut stems from.

 

[kief420]

I know I am bumping this but I just read it and it still shows recent in the area of the thread it is in ... I have never read such utter bull shit from so many people in my whole life ...

 

[Grover Sativa]

... I have never read such utter bull shit from so many people in my whole life ...

Couldn't agree more but then - that's JessE for you. I always found him to be a horrible individual.

Did you really read it all?

 

[kief420]

I didn't read it all but for some reason I did read a good bit of it .

 

[APxRS]

I read many pages of this about a year ago, was kind of days-of-our-lives addicting. Some of the grail haze threads are big, long, funny reads too.

 

[coxnox]

that 1st picture isn't cheese, so 56pages of blabla

Jesse you're a smart guy trying to put the cheese cutting down and say that we should buy sensi seed sk1 or shit from shanti, did you grow both of them ? did you found anything like cheese ?

UK Blues:

UK Cheese:

In the box:

 

[seymour-buds]

cheese is peng....

that strain will hold her own against many and i know many man on a staple cheese diet....

personally i hold the blues/livers cut. this is heavily related to cheese and is said to be another sk#1 pheno from the same time as the exodus. flavour profile of these phenos is like no other strain ive ever smoked and any cross that is used with these parents are just so prevalent in the offspring cause the flavour is just soooo intense.

the original exo is still in my area of the midlands

easily be taken at 7 weeks and taste better than any street weed but 9 - 10 weeks is her sweet spot

 

[bluntmassa]

So who has the best Cheese these days? I came really close to trying Big Buhddas had it in my shopping cart but I don't have a clue what happened from their it must have been the Haze. LMAO

Just so many breeders with Cheese God knows which to try I remember a few years back people where talking about the Big Buhdda Blue Cheese a bit but I think I'd rather try a pure Cheese to see what all the fuss was about. Damn sure don't hear about it as much as when she was the flavor of the month. Now it's all about GSC and GG#4 smoked some of both they were good just not worth the hype IMO and I would think at least the GG#4 was legit pretty good for sure but I have had better.

But I still have to try Cheese as that should have a truly unique flavor.

 

[Moffaka]

is alegria the same variety as that offered by kiwiseeds? some spanish guys grew it for years? this one is an indy dom and i am pretty sure it is not a skunk pheno but she certainly has many skunk characteristics. peace-biteme

Same name but no idea if the strain. No idea if that's true.

 

[dwc225]

ive never personally grown any of BigBuddahs stock, however, years ago when i was selling weed in Texas, i once came across a batch of big buddha’s (cheeseXblueberry)XTahoeOG
and i gotta say, that batch was hands down the most unique and foul smelling (in a good way) batch i’ve ever come across... and girl scout cookies was usually my house strain for comparison. DEF some dank to be found in his seeds.....
while we’re on the subject of cheese tho, i am a tad curious and hope sthat meone else can chime in and answer for me...
i’m not trying to debate if cheese is worth the hype,
but the cheese cut is in itself a great example of a very specific (recessive?) phenotype that happens to be somewhat rare...
i mean i haven’t grown enough old school sk1(before inbreeding depression etc) to know for myself, but the fact that these guys were the only ones to ever find a cheese pheno leads me to believe that it just wasn’t that common. certainly other growers have grown out sk1 in the past 20 so years, hoping to find that pheno. yet no one has to my knowledge. that’s a tad odd to me, that the pheno never showed herself again to a grower ready to clone her. ... people talk about the cherry AK pheno that’s hard to find, yet there have been multiple people who did the necessary work to find them(surely some are fake but u get my point)... so do these little genetic raritiy phenos, that are almost a strain onto themselves, exist in every strain?

So who has the best Cheese these days? I came really close to trying Big Buhddas had it in my shopping cart but I don't have a clue what happened from their it must have been the Haze. LMAO

Just so many breeders with Cheese God knows which to try I remember a few years back people where talking about the Big Buhdda Blue Cheese a bit but I think I'd rather try a pure Cheese to see what all the fuss was about. Damn sure don't hear about it as much as when she was the flavor of the month. Now it's all about GSC and GG#4 smoked some of both they were good just not worth the hype IMO and I would think at least the GG#4 was legit pretty good for sure but I have had better.

But I still have to try Cheese as that should have a truly unique flavor.

 

[jack hairy]

That genetic rarity may be present in more lines, or maybe it comes out when skunk is involved?

I have been searching for a plant as good as a jack herer i had back in '00.
havent found anything quite as good yet.
and the jack has skunk in it so...

 

[59lespaul]

Of course we all know Original 89 Cheese is clone only, and unless someone made fems ( EEEEEWWWWW/YMMV....) the only way we can get it is a hybrid, or an original cut.

The Nature Farm Genetics has the ORIGINAL 89 cut, and gave it to the guys at Coastal Seeds/Kagau/Bob Hemphill ect for hybrids.
Coastal did a big run Heirloom NL1 hybrids and 89 UK Cheese was 1 of them. Coastal now only sells in California, and wont ship out of state.

BUT, there are still 6 packs of the... Coastal Seeds... UK Cheese x NL1 at Great Lakes Genetics... $100 a pack, and also James Bean, and they are pure fire. Indica Dom, and all of them Ive sampled have that funky Cheese smell taste, and it REEKS. Better have odor control, and even at that, you better have it dialed in, or it will defeat the filtration.

GLG also has a few packs of UFO... ORIGINAL 1979 ROMULAN CUT x NL1. Real Deal here. Ive not grown these out yet but have 5 packs.

In the fall, The Nature Farm is going to have an 89 UK Cheese x Original Sk18. REAL ORIGINAL SKUNK. No sweet stuff here. Floral hints on some, but pure funk.

SK18 also does have CHEESE/RKS, Chemical/Gas/Cat PEE, Onions, and body odor phenos. Weve got 20 x in veg, and gave up any type of odor control.

SK18 has also been Phylos Tested, and the results are available. Theyre not afraid to put their stuff to genetic testing, and post it.

Genetic testing says Sk18 is highest in the Berry and second for Skunk, and isn't related to any known genetics in the Database, which are in the thousands.... So the genes are very uncommon, and they also show a good variety of genetic variation.

 

[Jerel26]

that 1st picture isn't cheese, so 56pages of blabla

Jesse you're a smart guy trying to put the cheese cutting down and say that we should buy sensi seed sk1 or shit from shanti, did you grow both of them cbd? did you found anything like cheese ?

UK Blues:

UK Cheese:

In the box:

MMM cheese, but ww favorite strain)

 

[Elmer Bud]

Of course we all know Original 89 Cheese is clone only, and unless someone made fems ( EEEEEWWWWW/YMMV....) the only way we can get it is a hybrid, or an original cut.

The Nature Farm Genetics has the ORIGINAL 89 cut, and gave it to the guys at Coastal Seeds/Kagau/Bob Hemphill ect for hybrids.
Coastal did a big run Heirloom NL1 hybrids and 89 UK Cheese was 1 of them. Coastal now only sells in California, and wont ship out of state.

BUT, there are still 6 packs of the... Coastal Seeds... UK Cheese x NL1 at Great Lakes Genetics... $100 a pack, and also James Bean, and they are pure fire. Indica Dom, and all of them Ive sampled have that funky Cheese smell taste, and it REEKS. Better have odor control, and even at that, you better have it dialed in, or it will defeat the filtration.

GLG also has a few packs of UFO... ORIGINAL 1979 ROMULAN CUT x NL1. Real Deal here. Ive not grown these out yet but have 5 packs.

In the fall, The Nature Farm is going to have an 89 UK Cheese x Original Sk18. REAL ORIGINAL SKUNK. No sweet stuff here. Floral hints on some, but pure funk.

SK18 also does have CHEESE/RKS, Chemical/Gas/Cat PEE, Onions, and body odor phenos. Weve got 20 x in veg, and gave up any type of odor control.

SK18 has also been Phylos Tested, and the results are available. Theyre not afraid to put their stuff to genetic testing, and post it.

Genetic testing says Sk18 is highest in the Berry and second for Skunk, and isn't related to any known genetics in the Database, which are in the thousands.... So the genes are very uncommon, and they also show a good variety of genetic variation.

G `day Fitty nine

More shilling and still no RKS !


Skunk 18 .2 is more than likely the fore bear of what Shanti uses today as Nevil had Skunk 18.2 and was working it .

Thanks for sharin

EB .