Grail: The Ultimate Haze Hybrid

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Read what Nevil Says about it Hempy. You are getting it confused with the other Haze B. You know, the one in La Nina that's not really Haze B. We were just told it was for some reason?

Nevil said:
After the first batch of '69 Haze seeds only produced 1 plant, I decided to plant the rest. This produced 5 plants A,B,C,D and E.
Plants B,D and E were females, of which B was the best. I tried all possible combinations and the best was B x C. BC was actually grown commercially alongside 5HzC1, so it was a 10/11 week plant. This fact alone indicated that HzB was a Haze Hybrid to something early. I suspect that most of BC's quality came from Dad.
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hempy said:
jack Hzb is not related to HzA and HzC jack.

Your comeing to a gun fight with a sling shot your honestly now sounding angry and becomeing rude why cant you keep a canna discustion cival is berhond me maybe your doing it to upset me and to take it of topic to avoid embaressing your mates more ?.

The sister to HzA And HzC ran 44 weeks by memory and Nev told Me it would Just not finish she was a monster and he regrets loosing her to this day.

So jack you just failed in your attack and now look rather silly how does that make you feel ?.
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Lololololololol

Maybe they should have reduced the light hours to 10/14 on a plant flowering for near a year.

So which is which and what is what here? What happened to pedigrees?
 
Hempy, I never read Shanti referring to the "Haze" female in La Nina as Haze B. It's possible that Rza got the info about the "Haze" in La Nina being MM, then presumed that "Haze" female was the legendary Haze B. Jack Hairy's post of Nevil's quote (just above your post of Rza's quote) clearly states there was a Haze B female which definitely WAS related to Haze A and C, and Nevil is the guy who grew them out in the first place. Seems like an 'open and shut' case to me.

ESS
 
jack hairy said:
hempy, this is a big problem with you.
you read what you want and discard the rest, and the "rest" might be what is the truth.

as far as haze, i trust what nevil says over what shanti says.
nevil was there shanti was not.

just because it was mistakenly reported that el nino, la nina, was haze b x ww, does not mean that it was. shanti cleared it up that it is MM x WW,
so how does that quote support your theory that haze b was long flowering, when nevil said that B x C took the same time as 5 x C? 11 weeks
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jack first off any thing shanti know of haze and talks about haze has come from neville.

jack in the 69 haze there were hazeA And HazeC was found a female was found to and she went over 44 weeks i think it was when nev harvested her and she would just not finish and he regrets loosing her there pure haze jack not a haze hybrid.

So getting back to topic how can you justrifie one of your buddys posts were he sed its looks like HazeA you cant its stupid to even try as he has no clue wat HazeA looked like.

The other batch of haze nev tried was diffrent to the 69.

I dont pretend to know it all or am i a haze expert like others in here are claiming but i have grown enuf of the mr nice haze hybrids to have some understanding of what im talking about i have grown so many of the mr nice haze hybrids over a decade to know but i still dont pretend to know it all so why do you guys think you do.

Face it jack i posted sed and sed to me it looks like a NL expresive plant i sed nice looking plant and i was set uppon well is there a reson for you now trashing nevs thread by attacking me and not focuseing on the grail No there is not.
 
for someone that has been around as long as he has,
i feel its disrespetful for him to speak on these subjects
and show his lack of understanding.

where is his passion if he doesnt even know what plants he is talking about?
if he was serious like most of us, i would think he should know this stuff.
ive learned most of it in a year or two.

It is ok to be wrong, and i would not throw it in someones face,
but when they talk down to you and treat you disrespectfully,
all the while begging to be respected,
makes you think...
 
itsbenfun said:
Lololololololol

Maybe they should have reduced the light hours to 10/14 on a plant flowering for near a year.

So which is which and what is what here? What happened to pedigrees?
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So you think a guy like neville that brang the world haze did not know how to grow it please mate your imbaressing your self.

What have you done for the canna community ? Fine tune trolling well im here to tell you that you faild in that endevour.
 
It's weird, I think he responds sometimes without even reading what he's responding to. Or who he's responding to, he seems to get peoples handles mixed up all the time too.

Or maybe he just can't read from way up there on his high horse?
 
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i remembered it as first haze and found this. pretty sure hempy was talking about this instead of haze b. so nevil didnt have this plant when his next 5 a,b,c,d,e and the final seventh haze were sprouted.

Nevil said:
my first question for neville

while none are noted in the catalouges ,im very curious as too what haze hybrids have you created using the haze female B?

The subject of Haze keeps coming up.
I got mine from Sam the Skunkman in the 80's. I bought a couple of thousand of old stock late 60s/ 70. The first batch that I planted produced one plant, a female. It was the slowest to flower I'd ever come across and flowered for longer. I got 3 different crops of seed of it and it had still not finished. It was huge and filled a quarter of the room, it had wispy buds and when you smoked it, other people complained about the smell. It didn't have much resin and after 9 months flowering, with no end in sight, I chopped it. It seem the most impractical plant I'd ever grown. I didn't keep a cutting.

One of the males I crossed it with was Ruderalis x NL1 X NL1. I was testing a 25% Ruderalis male on the most difficult plant I'd come across to see what it would do. I used all the seed I had to find the earliest male for the next generation. I grew the females out and because it was so resinous, I made hash out of it. To this day it was the best hash I've ever smoked, and I've been privileged to have smoked the best.
I truly regret not having made a cutting of that plant. I didn't make that mistake with the 6 that followed.
I'm feeling a bit sad now, I think that I'll go and have a smoke.
I'll tell you the rest later.
N.
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hempy said:
So you think a guy like neville that brang the world haze did not know how to grow it please mate your imbaressing your self.

What have you done for the canna community ? Fine tune trolling well im here to tell you that you faild in that endevour.
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I trust Nevil knows how to grow, I said maybe they should have tried reducing the light hours. Did they?

Dodging the question "Dodge"? Nothing new for u. So what exactly is haze B?
 
jack hairy said:
for someone that has been around as long as he has,
i feel its disrespetful for him to speak on these subjects
and show his lack of understanding.

where is his passion if he doesnt even know what plants he is talking about?
if he was serious like most of us, i would think he should know this stuff.
ive learned most of it in a year or two.

It is ok to be wrong, and i would not throw it in someones face,
but when they talk down to you and treat you disrespectfully,
all the while begging to be respected,
makes you think...
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I find it rather odd people that claim to love the plant that are here to better there understanding of it use there time in this forum to attack fellow members it really shows that some of you have over stayed your welcome.

And the lack of respect tawards Shanti and Neville is rather disupointing to see.
 
itsbenfun said:
I trust Nevil knows how to grow, I said maybe they should have tried reducing the light hours. Did they?

Dodging the question "Dodge"? Nothing new for u. So what exactly is haze B?
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Maybe you should keep your stupid remarks to your self mate as its clear you dont have a clue what your on about wen it comes to growing sativas.

A haze hybrid like nevilles haze even with a 10/14 cycle can still go to 20 or more weeks in flower and thats a haze hybrid but you knew that right im sure.
 
hempy said:
I find it rather odd people that claim to love the plant that are here to better there understanding of it use there time in this forum to attack fellow members it really shows that some of you have over stayed your welcome.

And the lack of respect tawards Shanti and Neville is rather disupointing to see.
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Now you are getting me angered, so soon i will stop communicating with you.

WHERE DID I EVER DISRESPECT NEVIL OR SHANTI?
you did by confusing their plants. Do you have children, would you mix up their names?

Im just chillin and chatting here at the forum, and you are spouting misinformation and insults that cause me to respond.

Someone has over stayed their welcome?
Care to elaborate on this?
 
hempy said:
I find it rather odd people that claim to love the plant that are here to better there understanding of it use there time in this forum to attack fellow members it really shows that some of you have over stayed your welcome.

And the lack of respect tawards Shanti and Neville is rather disupointing to see.
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Hempy, I've got a question. What percentage of your posts don't reprimand, antagonize, belittle and/or insult other members?

ESS
 
hempy said:
Maybe you should keep your stupid remarks to your self mate as its clear you dont have a clue what your on about wen it comes to growing sativas.

A haze hybrid like nevilles haze even with a 10/14 cycle can still go to 20 or more weeks in flower and thats a haze hybrid but you knew that right im sure.
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No answer your stupid remarks concerning Hz B. Maybe because you have no clue? Because la nina was passed off as haze?

Please do explain.
 
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