The True Origins of Haze- BigHerb's Article

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G`day Kanga

Dunno if you`ll get the ergot from cane bro .

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Like the hippie guy in Easy Rider said "the right place with the right people " he he .

Thanks for sharin

Elmer Bud .
 
Hey Elmer..All the right people are here, they just have to learn to get on:D

Namaskar....Yep that too....But my mind was more on the Rum, nothing like a little shot in the coffee on a cold winter morning:D

Sorry BH no haze in rum:D
 
Kangativa said:
Hey Elmer..All the right people are here, they just have to learn to get on:D

Namaskar....Yep that too....But my mind was more on the Rum, nothing like a little shot in the coffee on a cold winter morning:D

Sorry BH no haze in rum:D
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thats what came to my mind straight away also kanga ,, hehe ,,

i use bailed up sugar can mulch aswell , makes nice mulch ...
 
Thanks to you all ,who've posted in the last page or two.

Its great too see some Positive interesting convo ,The origins of cannabis has always had my curiousity .I thought the Himalayan foothills and/or Xinjiang mountain range were thought to be the birth place of cannabis

I appreciate the mindset

Ive said it in the past Lets agree to disagree ,but lets do it respectfully .Hopfully we can continue in this fashion an get back to the topic of haze .



Kanga

Lovely pic

what is the haze in that plant crossed with ?



1luvbigherb
 
heres a question ive always wondered. my answer is because of geographical location, but i feel there is a deeper, more technical explanation.

at exactly what point did the cannabis genus split into the sativa and indica sub lines? and ruderalis as well? all make the same product, but are drastically different in itself.
 
Namaskar said:
Which Mexican variety is in the Haze, an Oaxacan or an Acapulco or...??:confused:

Namaste :)
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In case you forgot Ohaze was a pure punto Rojo :D

BUt from what Sams has shared which i believe was his private work/breeding 2 post below

QUOTE]Originally posted by Knowsitall4sure
I never grew Original Haze for sale like the two Haze Brothers that is why I do not consider myself a Haze Brother, even if they used to call me SHEMP, the Unknown Haze Brother.
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[B]I gave them Acapulco Gold,Thai, South Indian seeds, [/B]saw the plants, saw their offspring from a Acapulco GoldXColumbian cross, and saw them grown the next year, and many after."
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It had several Colombian lines like Santa Marta Gold, Wacky weed.
You must remember that Purple colors can be induced in some clones by cold, while other lines turn purple regardless of temps
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A surprise was the mention of wacky weed at the time ,but now looking back on it its just plain wacky :D.What ive always found interesting is the lack of mexican phenos/traits reported in the haze lines



1luvbigherb
 
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oaxacan sativa if im not mistaken. ive grown alot out and still hold a mom thats been around since 99 now.

its def the oaxacan.

im also to the notion that haze is a mutt of a bastard strain. kinda like how arcata trainwreck came about!

Namaskar said:
Which Mexican variety is in the Haze, an Oaxacan or an Acapulco or...??:confused:

Namaste :)
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JetLife said:
heres a question ive always wondered. my answer is because of geographical location, but i feel there is a deeper, more technical explanation.

at exactly what point did the cannabis genus split into the sativa and indica sub lines? and ruderalis as well? all make the same product, but are drastically different in itself.
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its crazy what the possibilities re an they would just be educated guesses ,Im sure some of the other fellas have some interesting insights to these thoughts

But asking this questions makes me wonder if it existed an what cannabis was like during the times of Pangea and Afro-Eurasia ?



1luvbigherb
 
JetLife said:
heres a question ive always wondered. my answer is because of geographical location, but i feel there is a deeper, more technical explanation.

at exactly what point did the cannabis genus split into the sativa and indica sub lines? and ruderalis as well? all make the same product, but are drastically different in itself.
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From what ive read sativa and indica types grew in the same location ,
they still do in parts ,, often sativa plants are seen growing outside the hash feilds ,
and in yunnan both sativa and indica types are seen ,
i think it was more man seperating them ...
 
Kanga

Lovely pic

what is the haze in that plant crossed with ?



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Thanks mate......Its a SSH x Mullum Madness, just going into it's summer growth.
 
Kangativa said:
Hey Elmer..All the right people are here, they just have to learn to get on:D

Namaskar....Yep that too....But my mind was more on the Rum, nothing like a little shot in the coffee on a cold winter morning:D

Sorry BH no haze in rum:D
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oh you poor guy , must suck having to wake n bake on a "cold winter morning"

i woke up to snow this am :eek:

earliest ive seen snow in years , in fact i remember a few times in the last 12 - 15 years not seeing any untill january

(giggle giggle kanga and a cold winter morning giggle giggle)

haha just bustin ur balls cause im JEALOUS !

good thing i wasnt tryin to pump out any haze this year :p

peace :cool:
 
b0b_b1tch1n said:
oh you poor guy , must suck having to wake n bake on a "cold winter morning"

i woke up to snow this am :eek:

earliest ive seen snow in years , in fact i remember a few times in the last 12 - 15 years not seeing any untill january

(giggle giggle kanga and a cold winter morning giggle giggle)

haha just bustin ur balls cause im JEALOUS !

good thing i wasnt tryin to pump out any haze this year :p

peace :cool:
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Lol.....I know mate, I shouldnt whinge about our winters, I only need a fire for about 3 weeks of winter and that is only to take the chill out of the air a bit.
One year I was up your way, they had -72 temps for winter, I was down in Oaxaca for winter and you always tell a new swell was on its way because the water temp would drop heaps.
 
Donald Mallard said:
From what ive read sativa and indica types grew in the same location ,
they still do in parts ,, often sativa plants are seen growing outside the hash feilds ,
and in yunnan both sativa and indica types are seen ,
i think it was more man seperating them ...
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No botanical differentiation. Sativa and indica have only ever been seperated by colonial sourses. Cannabis sativa is the botanical name. So what is haze?
 
jwf said:
No botanical differentiation. Sativa and indica have only ever been seperated by colonial sourses. Cannabis sativa is the botanical name. So what is haze?
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thin leafed indica apparently , as adverse to fat leafed indica ,
we smoke the indica ,,
the sativa is rope ,, apparently , so far as the more recent study suggests .
 
Donald Mallard said:
thin leafed indica apparently , as adverse to fat leafed indica ,
we smoke the indica ,,
the sativa is rope ,, apparently , so far as the more recent study suggests .
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I agree with you. Cannabis Has not been properly categorized IMHO. I'd love to see a genetic comparison of 5 hemp strains, 10 true landraces from all over the globe and then compare them to some of the famous strains we all love...ie, various Skunk#1, NL#5, the HazeC male, SSH, 5hzA (just to get a partial idea of it's relation to HazeC), Black Widow and maybe a couple others I'm not thinking of...that would be a fun project!

Do you have any links to that info?

Cheers,
Sensi
 
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