Wich Haze mother was used in La Nina?

hi blabla,

welcome to the mns forums

To answer your Q , I m not sure if LN is a direct cross , but I believe so . It combines a pure haze female and the famous BW male Shanti uses in his hybrids (Shark shock , LN , etc) .

The pure haze female comes from Haze Bros seed stock (from 1969) of pure haze that Neville got in the 80s through Sam Skunkman. From those seeds Nev kept the HazeA male , the HazeC male and a pure haze female , I believe this is called the one called HazeB.This female haze plant is alive from what I understand but LN is the only line I 'm aware of that is using this haze plant.

LN is a great line , a unique and very fast haze hybrid , definitely worth a try esp if you like haze and widow . Its a low yielder but there are real gems to be found in this line..

l33t
 
LaNina, Haze Female

Hi! Blabla... I thought I just read that LaNina was an undisclosed female haze, that doesn't have a name of either A or B etc. I read that somewhere on this site recently from a post on this very same subject. I would like to know the facts as well if I'm wrong? resinbud ;)
 
The haze female used in the La Nina work is obviously not Haze A or C, but an unrelated pure haze female from my understanding. Im not sure exact details have ever been released, definitely a question better suited for Shanti to answer.
 
Blabla said:
Wow Jesse, Resinbud and L33t answering. I like your grows and posts :) But back to the question. Couldn't one of you Mr Nice veterans ask Shanti?
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you ask lol your not scared are you Blabla?:D he's a nice guy ask him he wont hurt you honest mate. he might take a while to answer because he's a busy man but he's honest and a genuinely nice person to talk to. shanti the green eyed monster scaring the newbie's.:D

edited to ad welcome to the forum mate dont be scared no green eyed monsters here.
 
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Blabla said:
Lol. Yes I'm terrified of Shantibaba.:D The reason I wanted them to ask him, was because others have asked the same question and they have not recieved an answer. Considering Jesse, L33t and Resinbud have been members here for a longtime maybe they would recieve an answer?
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shanti's just a bussy man breeding and reading 1000's of pms. theres a ask shanti thread like the question's for nevil thread mybe it would be beter to ask there as he would have to prioratise pm's i would of though;). he's alway answered any questions i have asked but the forums been bussy laterly and i think his pm's will of increased aswell. even when it wasnt it sometimes took a few weeks to get a answer but he alway's sent one back.:) questions like this are best on the forum anyway i think. he's got enough pm's to go through without 10 or so asking the same thing every few week's maybe you should of directed the question at shanti in the title as he cant read them all?;)
 
Blabla said:
Yeah Brock, I guess your right. To bad I can't change the title of the thread.:rolleyes:
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try posting your question in this thread.http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4324&highlight=questions+shanti as it's called question for shanti it might get his atention when he gose through the forum.;) i think more people should use these types of thread that way it save's time for shanti. having to answer the same questions over and over again it must get annoying at time's. hope you get your answer Blabla.:)
 
it be great to hear a direct response from shanti

the idea of haze B being the parent has long been thought and with the info in the quote below from nev im sure its most likely true



Originally Posted by Nevil
After the first batch of '69 Haze seeds only produced 1 plant, I decided to plant the rest. This produced 5 plants A,B,C,D and E.
Plants B,D and E were females, of which B was the best. I tried all possible combinations and the best was B x C. BC was actually grown commercially alongside 5HzC1, so it was a 10/11 week plant. This fact alone indicated that HzB was a Haze Hybrid to something early. I suspect that most of BC's quality came from Dad.
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1luvbigherb
 
Blabla said:
In the thread the grail,http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=4345, Neville himself states that female B is dead (his first post in that thread). On page 3 he also states that male A is dead.
So the question is still unanswered. What hazemother is being used in the La Nina cross?
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Blabla said:
Hi L33t! Thanks for that fast reply! (I enjoy your photos and posts both here and at Thcfarmer). I know of the three original plants, but isn't male A and female B dead?
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Hi all

hi Blabla

Neville did not state anywhere that haze B is dead. I do not know where you read this cause there is no such info in Nevs post you mention. The female that Nev did not get to keep was the the first plant he got from the very first batch of haze seed he grew. That was not HazeB. HzB came from the second batch he germinated , and thats where Haze A B C D E F came from.

HazeC is alive and so is the pure Haze female used in LN from what I understand , which unless stated otherwise by Shanti/Nev must be the HazeB.
 
sad news indeed.

since this is the case I believe LN is not a direct cross between a pure haze female and BW.
 
So I think your wrong L33t.The perticular female BC is dead, but Shantibaba and Neville still probably have seeds (i.e it can be resurrected). But a female BC wouldn't be a pure haze, considering the B female wasn't pure.

So the question is still unanswered, but a clue would be the Haze AC? But it's really piontless to guess, considering the huge number of crosses that Neville has made in the past
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based upon my obersvation its my understanding/IMO

neville meant not a pure haze expression ,wen he said hazeB wasnt pure

remember all the haze parents came from the same seed from SAMS stock labeled diff years ,soo if you think the haze B isnt pure would mean you think none of the haze parents are pure

it seems obvious that the answer is haze B but without a direct responose from neville or shanti its not clear


1luvbigherb
 
Blabla said:
L33t, I think La Nina is crossed to a pure hazemother.

Quote Shantibaba:-La Nina is the widow father breed to a pure Haze female...neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all. (http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2064&highlight=nina#post2064)

But the question is wich Haze mother he is useing?

Quote Neville:-After the first batch of '69 Haze seeds only produced 1 plant, I decided to plant the rest. This produced 5 plants A,B,C,D and E.
Plants B,D and E were females, of which B was the best. I tried all possible combinations and the best was B x C. BC was actually grown commercially alongside 5HzC1, so it was a 10/11 week plant. This fact alone indicated that HzB was a Haze Hybrid to something early. I suspect that most of BC's quality came from Dad. (http://www.mrnice.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=57318#post57318)

It can't be female B (not pure), maybe D or E? Are they also dead? And in the PM to HHHG, Shantibaba states Haze AC. But both A and C are males and the only strain to hold them both is Nevilles Haze that I know of (and Neville isn't pure- NL5 12,5 %)
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MangoHaze and NHxMH also contain both HzA and HzC according to Shantibaba.And the New rock n roll series hybrids also have HazeC and HazeA blood as they use the HazeAC male plant Shanti selected. HazeAC male is 25%HzA and 25%HzC.So its not only NH having blood from both HzA and HzC males.

So I think your wrong L33t.The perticular female BC is dead, but Shantibaba and Neville still probably have seeds (i.e it can be resurrected). But a female BC wouldn't be a pure haze, considering the B female wasn't pure.

So the question is still unanswered, but a clue would be the Haze AC? But it's really piontless to guess, considering the huge number of crosses that Neville has made in the past
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HazeAC is not pure Haze.. Find and read the info Shanti posted on it.Its 50%haze , with 25%SK and 25%NL..

Like I said I m not 100% certain and I may be wrong but I believe LN uses HazeB , thats from what I understand from Nev/Shantis posts . HazeB although it may not really be a 100% pure haze it came from seeds labeled as pure haze (same batch of seeds as HzA and HzC came from) so I believe this is why Shanti says LN is a cross between a pure haze female and BW .

..it would be nice if Shanti could chime in and post some details about the breeding of this excellent line.

cheers
l33t
 
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