shantibaba
Breeder and moderator
Hi All
well unfortunately the story of the seed from Brazil that became the father of this union is nothing to really get excited about.
In 1987/88 I spent a year travelling through Peru, Ecuador, Columbia with my girlfriend. While in the Columbia section of the travel I got to Tyrone a mountain area near Santa Marta up north close to the Venezuela frontier...
We spent some time and a strong series of experiences with ethno botanics , namely San Pedro. A middle aged Brasilan who was living in the area became a good friend and we had alot of things in common. He was from the Amazon area in Brasil and had an IBL handed down for 3 generations of his family and in breed for quite alot of seasons in the same area by his people. It was foresure an IBL grown by the same people for years ...once I was able to grow it. This was the similarity of the Keralan IBL imo...
Both were not pure strains as they had been mixed over the years with the influences of selection depending upon the person who care taked them, but they had so many generations being grown by the same people in the same area they had taken on a new course and had become unique due to this fact.
So to the reason people see sativa phenotype in a packet of 15 seeds is very normal...in fact the girl I selected from the union of these two plants lines took well over 200 seeds trial and error. Not like the Super Silver Haze which took close to 1000 seeds trial and error and alot of years work for Nev.
But the most important thing that got the Widow down to 10 week flowering was to find one that expressed the indica phenotype in expression...taking a cut from the seed mother and flowering that which reduced the flowering time to 9-11 weeks. Also the plant does its thing the last 3 weeks so if you pull her early you will never see the real work it can do...
Many people over the years found a Widow that blasted them, but it was not every single seed that does this. It is also difficult to get all the elements correct straight up in a widow grow as the feeding varies depending upon the selected plant. So not making excuses to anyone as this strain has effected alot of growers positively but it is not as easy as Shit or Shark to get a very outstanding plant off the bat.
Really my Brazilan friend did not give it a name other than The One...his name to refer to it. So that is hopefully information to curb your inquisitiveness...but you must remember that the widow came from these two IBL and was made by over 2 years of inbreeding these two lines to find a male that inflenced all who it combined with...so here endeth the lesson according to me. By the way did any of the other people who claim to be widow breeders ever give a detailed account of the plants that lead to their so called version....because all I ever read is the description i wrote in 1995...regurgatated by people who never left their grow rooms and never sourced anything in their lives...but would be happy to be proven wrong!
All the best sb
well unfortunately the story of the seed from Brazil that became the father of this union is nothing to really get excited about.
In 1987/88 I spent a year travelling through Peru, Ecuador, Columbia with my girlfriend. While in the Columbia section of the travel I got to Tyrone a mountain area near Santa Marta up north close to the Venezuela frontier...
We spent some time and a strong series of experiences with ethno botanics , namely San Pedro. A middle aged Brasilan who was living in the area became a good friend and we had alot of things in common. He was from the Amazon area in Brasil and had an IBL handed down for 3 generations of his family and in breed for quite alot of seasons in the same area by his people. It was foresure an IBL grown by the same people for years ...once I was able to grow it. This was the similarity of the Keralan IBL imo...
Both were not pure strains as they had been mixed over the years with the influences of selection depending upon the person who care taked them, but they had so many generations being grown by the same people in the same area they had taken on a new course and had become unique due to this fact.
So to the reason people see sativa phenotype in a packet of 15 seeds is very normal...in fact the girl I selected from the union of these two plants lines took well over 200 seeds trial and error. Not like the Super Silver Haze which took close to 1000 seeds trial and error and alot of years work for Nev.
But the most important thing that got the Widow down to 10 week flowering was to find one that expressed the indica phenotype in expression...taking a cut from the seed mother and flowering that which reduced the flowering time to 9-11 weeks. Also the plant does its thing the last 3 weeks so if you pull her early you will never see the real work it can do...
Many people over the years found a Widow that blasted them, but it was not every single seed that does this. It is also difficult to get all the elements correct straight up in a widow grow as the feeding varies depending upon the selected plant. So not making excuses to anyone as this strain has effected alot of growers positively but it is not as easy as Shit or Shark to get a very outstanding plant off the bat.
Really my Brazilan friend did not give it a name other than The One...his name to refer to it. So that is hopefully information to curb your inquisitiveness...but you must remember that the widow came from these two IBL and was made by over 2 years of inbreeding these two lines to find a male that inflenced all who it combined with...so here endeth the lesson according to me. By the way did any of the other people who claim to be widow breeders ever give a detailed account of the plants that lead to their so called version....because all I ever read is the description i wrote in 1995...regurgatated by people who never left their grow rooms and never sourced anything in their lives...but would be happy to be proven wrong!
All the best sb