Piff s2 has musty and kinda spicey like Indian. Feels thick in the air after stem rub. This first week the smell smacked me in face when opening tent. S2 is having a little leaf down cuppage from dry top air level. I ordered an ultrasonic ceramic fogger instead of this cheap baby humidifier.What’s Piffs2 smelling like?
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...The French provenance of champagne Bordeaux burgundy are highly detailed and command high market value. Once the smoke clears on the high mycerene golfball thc plants these same factors will come into play....
Are you thinking of Myrcene?
Are you thinking of Lowenfels?
Yup that's him
Are you thinking of Myrcene
Pcf did a terpene analysis on cuban black haze piffs2(brown) and redline. What he found is very interesting . These are 3 cuts all known to be very churchy in dif ways.
Each one was approx half Myrcene. And each ones 3rd highest terpene was ocimene at aprox 10 percent. This combo forms the base of church. The ocimene is key. Once those 2 combine it looks like pinene and carolyphene levels create a distinction between the piney church and basement church. The coolest part is Marcus discovered the amyrins (ocimene) importance in frankincense terpene and noted it is usually only found in hemp. Check out his pie chart.
How is everyone? I hope all of the mns community are doing well in these trying times. Stay safe and healthy before anything else.... now with that being said Was wondering if anyone else looking for church phenos in haze has found it or gave up yet? I’ve grown damn near every haze on the...mrnice.nl
?Piff s2 has musty and kinda spicey like Indian. Feels thick in the air after stem rub. This first week the smell smacked me in face when opening tent. S2 is having a little leaf down cuppage from dry top air level. I ordered an ultrasonic ceramic fogger instead of this cheap baby humidifier.
It is really nice to have a variety of scents instead of just skunkoids.
Pcf printed up a bunch of terpenes profiles of his cuts. It's very interesting because definitive pattern:
Second terp depending on variety
3. 10% ocimene .
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Ah good look thanks for posting that I tried linking to your old post I've read it before. I believe that these old lines with rare terpenes could be combos of nld and older multi purpose hemp strains. In spanish influenced colony's we know they were growing a shit load of hemp for sails and these lines probably came from north india/Himalayas. So these great colombian strains could be tropically acclimated multi purposeand artificially selected for high thc. We know thai ganja seeds were brought and acclimated to colombia in 60s 70s. And Mexico has had nld lines even longer. Combinations and crossovers for all these factors and inputs somehow spit out haze. I also wonder about the loss of genetic material due to only selecting firm males and females. Self resilience thru intersex must be looked at as a positive trait to the plant but to the producers of resin and sensimilla this is a bad plant immediately. You could even split them off into another lineI've said it before and I'll say it again: the closer you can breed a cannabis plant's terpene profile to that of frankincense the closer you'll get to church. Note from above that the Cuban Black Haze has the highest α-Pinene concentration, then looky here:
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The β-Myrcene in the three terpene analyses is the overwhelmingly predominant constituent, as it is in most cannabis. β-Myrcene is a minor constituent in frankincense, ranking thirteenth behind α- and β-Pinene, α- and β-Amyrin, D-Limonene, Camphene, Caryophyllene, and others. Here's part of the table I made from the composite Omani frankincense terpene sample analysis I found on the web:
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I'd love to smoke actual piff, if it exists. Cocktail Frank at ICM has a thread about his favorite weed, a mango haze cut from one of Shanti's first batches of mango haze. He says he bought piff in Washington Heights back in the day and his mango haze is a dead ringer. I suspect the original piff that everyone raves about was an Nl5Haze A or Nl5Haze C, or maybe an early Neville's Haze F1. My Angel's Breathe F2 keeper was made from a really nice mango-haze-leaning mom and I think it is definitely incensey, churchy smoke, but I've never had the piff for comparison. I'd love to run a terpene analysis on a properly grown and cured sample of her. I don't think I'd be violating the MNS TOU if I offered to provide a clone of my AB F2 keeper to someone here who can do it justice in flower, in which case I'd be happy to arrange for lab analysis of the finished product. PM me if there are any takers who live in Massachusetts or a legal state and can do so without violating the MNS TOU.
This is why I select for piney aromas along with long flowering times among the plants I grow. The best bags of Colombian and Mexican sativas I stuck my nose in back during the 70s always had a wonderful piney, earthy aroma. I want to recreate that. I want to build my own haze. I want to find my own church. It's a purposeful and righteous endeavor.
Seems to me the profiles with carolyphene (pepper) as 2nd instead of pinene represents a dividing line. Never really known the idfference between brown haze and cuban black haze. Always known both as haze or piff but i never get any redline and very rarely golden. The piff s2 is pcfs selection out of 20 females in brown haze line. Same group as piff s1 top dawg uses . It was chosen for the most francincense and has bloom time 10 to 11 weeks. If you look at cbh its got tons more pinene then carolyphene. In my head theres always tge musty basement heavy piff smoke or piney lung piercing oily smoke cbh and piff brown haze seem related but def not the same. The cbh seems to have a different pedigree its leaves have couple funny shapes. Not sure if anyone knows why its "black" haze but its known as a 2to3 pound plant that goes around 100. The big cash crop of the hazes. I guess they cut the first floor out of houses in fl and grow from basement up to 2nd floor ceiling. Kinda like what dutch call a "loft." the huge yield and vigor could be an outcross of nevils. They seemed to all start with him for sure.?
so, what does your nose and tongue tell you that profile tastes and smells like?