NL#2

Probably not, I know Nevil did have a few NL lines but that was a long time ago. Northern Lights and NL#5 thrived but not even Sensi Seeds kept the others.

Should be a hell of a lot of NL variations in an F2 of Ortega which is NLxNL#5 that's my plan anyway.

But you have NL#9 I think from Sagamartha but he worked it a bit from Nevil stock was pretty big back in the day I actually want to try a few of his strains I know their is some great flavors in that Yumbolt just because of Yummy may need an F2 to find that extra special flavor but not much you can do when people want $100 for 10 seeds. Lol
 
Sagarmatha has a terrible reputation...

The Blueberry from Peakseeds I just grew had nanners too (although it went through a lot under my care this round).
Its a three-way cross between DJ's, DP's and Sag's Blueberry.

I had no nanners on any of the MRN, ACE, Karma and C99 from Peak so far (also this round with all the issues).

The worst offender was the Reserva Privada Tangie freebie. Funnily enough, none of the World of Seeds freebies hermed. Go figure 8)


So yeah, I would stay clear of Sagarmatha.

Ever seen a video of that guy talking in conferences and such? That guy acts like a grade A kumbayah, heal the world hippy.
And then acts like a grade A capitalist, charging 10+ bucks a seed, gatekeeping knowledge etc. . A theme quite common in this "industry" and none of those fitting that bill were ever worth a lick.

Just my 2 cents
 
Broseidon said:
Sagarmatha has a terrible reputation...

The Blueberry from Peakseeds I just grew had nanners too (although it went through a lot under my care this round).
Its a three-way cross between DJ's, DP's and Sag's Blueberry.

I had no nanners on any of the MRN, ACE, Karma and C99 from Peak so far (also this round with all the issues).

The worst offender was the Reserva Privada Tangie freebie. Funnily enough, none of the World of Seeds freebies hermed. Go figure 8)


So yeah, I would stay clear of Sagarmatha.

Ever seen a video of that guy talking in conferences and such? That guy acts like a grade A kumbayah, heal the world hippy.
And then acts like a grade A capitalist, charging 10+ bucks a seed, gatekeeping knowledge etc. . A theme quite common in this "industry" and none of those fitting that bill were ever worth a lick.

Just my 2 cents
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I don't know I never heard too much bad about him but his Yumbolt was used in Yummy. Not sure how his BB or NL#9 are but the Yumbolt was good enough for Resin Seeds and CBD Crew to work with. I think I would go with DJ when I try Blueberry and pollen will fly. Lol, But even DJ Short has a lot of herm reports as does every single breeder.

But such is life you got to weed out the dicks. Lol, DJ's book was a little strange he actually said it was good to breed with male dominant hermies. To me that don't sound like the best way to breed out the hermie traits in weed but could explain a lot of herm reports. Now Soma that guy had nothing but genetics from plants that hermed got a male Hawaiian from Shantibaba and started his seed company even the NYC Diesel was bag seed from good weed in NYC and it's been used a bit since.

I've had nanners on plenty of MNS plants never anything too bad but it has happened but to this day the only true hermaphrodite I've had was from AK-47 pre flowers in veg both male and female flowers but the others didn't even show a nanner.

But who knows them GMO's might just get rid of the male traits all together. But I'm too busy with breeding old school shit no need for GMO's.
 
Good info, wasn't aware about that part of DJ's book (I scimmed through it, shame on me).

Jeez, not Blueberry too.. I was thinking that if I am not satisfied with peaks BB, I would bite the bullet and get a pack of DJ's as that would be one of the few strains where I could justify the pricetag to myself, considering the well documented breeding effort that went into it and how DJ got screwed so many times by other breeders.

This info kind of breaks my heart. Wasn't aware on his stance towards hermies and that his BB also is documented as hermy prone. Sad.

Anyway, like I said, a breeder having hermy genetics in his lineups or a bad rep or the like doesn't mean they have nothing good to offer. It's more about the image of providing you with great odds to find something exceptional in their gear when the odds, in fact, are no better than F2 gear ala Nirvana.
Which rubs me the wrong way.

Anyway, a bit off-topic here...

Regarding Northern Lights, I would say as mentioned before, Ortega and bottlenecking towards desired traits yourself.
Nirvana might be another such option?

Specifically NL#2 is probably only available through a stroke of luck in making connections and getting a clone, if any are even conserved to this date.

The more likely option is to find a breeder that has the NL#2 genes in their version of Northern Lights and then bottlenecking towards these traits.
 
i have heard nl#2 reaching 32%thc and definitely wanted to grow it
Has anyone grown grown oasis from dutch passion?
The only thing i have grown from them is delta 9 and it was excellent.
 
lion said:
Will mr nice seeds ever make a NL#2 strain?
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Nevil was at the "Cannabis Castle" at the time he was working with the NL lines.
NL#5 was (according to him) never actually released as a pure seed line because he was busted shortly after the catalog went out announcing it.
Only a handful of people ever cot the pure seeds according to Nev, and they got them directly from him at the castle.

The most popular NL#5 based version of NL to make it into distribution was NL5 x NL2.
Nev described NL#2 as a "kush type."
Most modern lines sold as NL#5 today originated from those NL#5 x NL#2 beans.

Ortega is advertised as a selection from original seeds of a breeding project Nev did crossing NL#5 x NL#1.

There was a pretty diverse range of phenos to be found in Ortega, and I encourage you to explore it. I found 3 unique phenos out of 5 females I had. 3 were very similar and 2 were outliers.
The outliers were my favorites.
1 was a fast, shorty NL#1 hashplant with purpling ping pong ball nuggets.
The other was a tall golden-red resin queen with large calyxes in dense narrow spears with an delightful stink of fresh baby poo.

The other 3 girls made giant colas in a candelabra structure and although I know the line is not supposed to have NL#2 in it, those main plants struck me as looking ike what NL#2 should look like.

Remember, the NL lines Nev got were all hybrids with different fathers.

Can you tell us what specific NL#2 characteristics are attracting you to the line?
 
"oasis" is the only NL#2 based stuff around that I am aware of. And it's been a decade since I heard any current grows.

Plants don't stay the same after numerous Xs I'm afraid. The line of NL I had way back in the day (late 80's) was likely closely related to #2 as it was all juniper stinky and super short plants. Of course, they were the first true indoor oriented plants I ever worked with so the height thing wouldn't seem out of place now. In fact, they were probably average in stretch compared to almost all modern cultivars.

Good luck. Personally, I would go for something you are hearing good things about now.
 
lion said:
i have heard nl#2 reaching 32%thc and definitely wanted to grow it
Has anyone grown grown oasis from dutch passion?
The only thing i have grown from them is delta 9 and it was excellent.
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I have grown Oasis as regular Seeds in 2007 - the years after that it was sold as fem seeds only. Nowadays there are only a few Oasis fem seed pack left at the resellers. Those must be kind of old now. Oasis isn't produced anymore AFAIK.

btw. it was advertised with 12,3 % THC - not 32% ;)
 
Broseidon said:
Good info, wasn't aware about that part of DJ's book (I scimmed through it, shame on me).

Jeez, not Blueberry too.. I was thinking that if I am not satisfied with peaks BB, I would bite the bullet and get a pack of DJ's as that would be one of the few strains where I could justify the pricetag to myself, considering the well documented breeding effort that went into it and how DJ got screwed so many times by other breeders.

This info kind of breaks my heart. Wasn't aware on his stance towards hermies and that his BB also is documented as hermy prone. Sad.

Anyway, like I said, a breeder having hermy genetics in his lineups or a bad rep or the like doesn't mean they have nothing good to offer. It's more about the image of providing you with great odds to find something exceptional in their gear when the odds, in fact, are no better than F2 gear ala Nirvana.
Which rubs me the wrong way.

Anyway, a bit off-topic here...

Regarding Northern Lights, I would say as mentioned before, Ortega and bottlenecking towards desired traits yourself.
Nirvana might be another such option?

Specifically NL#2 is probably only available through a stroke of luck in making connections and getting a clone, if any are even conserved to this date.

The more likely option is to find a breeder that has the NL#2 genes in their version of Northern Lights and then bottlenecking towards these traits.
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Just a look at the history of Blueberry​ it's obvious he used genetics from other people's​ work he did do a bit of work on her and others helped a little along the way but he certainly isn't Luther Burbank. Lol, It's certainly worth working with though.

I almost bought it from Dutch Passion but I emailed them with some questions and they didn't seem to be on point. Of course the guy handling the emails probably isn't the most knowledgeable about the origins. I'm certainly not expecting a keeper in a pack of Dutch Passion BB but an older less worked version to work with for a bit less money they might do.

They do have a terrible reputation though but surprisingly not so bad in Europe. But I think they made the fem seeds like Soma he would leave them in flower until they where on the verge of death get some pollen and pollinate mother's. Probably why he justifies his retarded prices nobody goes thru that much trouble for hermie pollen. LMAO

But they all really have a bad reputation for hermies you look hard enough you will find something. Mr. Nice is on the lower side especially since they sell so many seeds but they are around though Shantibaba don't breed with any hermie stock to my knowledge he stayed away from all the OG's and shit though no telling what Nevil got really.

I heard all the Northern Lights plants he got where female clones but somehow he made a Northern Lights pure probably crossed to an Afghan and backcrossed a bit. I know Nevil was a little shady back in the day but so are most in the seed industry probably why Shantibaba was like the first to go to Switzerland. Like "fuck y'all I'm taking my parents and going to Switzerland​ without all the fucking drama I'll send you a postcard!" LMAO
 
G `day Blunt

You like to make it up if you don`t know the facts ?
NL#5 was a clone . The other NL #s were seeds .
NL #5 was smuggled into Holland in a terrarium .

Its all here to read if you want to take the time and not speculate .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
Isn't there only much info on the NL#5?

Because I have read a whole lot about that one and the infos are sometimes very conflicting as well, especially about the origin (if I remember correctly, has been a while I read into that one).

But I do not remember finding much if any info on the other NLs. A few links could be particularly helpful for lion I feel.
 
Elmer Bud said:
G `day Blunt

You like to make it up if you don`t know the facts ?
NL#5 was a clone . The other NL #s were seeds .
NL #5 was smuggled into Holland in a terrarium .

Its all here to read if you want to take the time and not speculate .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
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I know there is a lot of conflicting information on NL's I've read plenty if you have a link that would be great I didn't hear about him getting seeds.
 
G `day GS

K I`ll walk you through the process .
Look up the members list . Find Nevil`s profile . Right top of the page click show all statistics . All posts by Nevil or All threads started by Nevil . From there look for references to Northern Lights .

Also the same process for NL Seattle Greg .

Story as I recall it ; poetic license intended .

NL Greg and friends were Vietnam Vets . Greg got seeds from the local hydro store in Seattle . Pre Soviet invasion . He used a gumby hash method to select males . And worked with a collective .
When Reagan started just saying NO . Greg fled to Holland and took with him his prized NL#5 clone [ Affie x Hawaiian Bx ] in a terrarium . He also took versions of NL # 1-4 , 6- 9 .In seed form .

For whatever reasons Greg went further underground and Nevil lost contact . As evidenced by a note in his catalog .

Nevil went to the USA to source more NL . This where the "Indian " story embellished by JessE comes in .His son was a veteran . He was a friend of the NL crew . He had NL plants given to him by the NL crew . He sold weed brownies at the Ferry Terminal .
Nevil said the NL the Indian had was inferior to the NL#5 clone he already had .

NL#1 produced a male that was mated to the NL#5 clone and was worked for several generations . The seeds lost in a bust . NL #1 was also mated to Hash plant [from the trip to the PNW ] and subsequently a male HP / NL #1 crossed to G13 clone [ also from the same trip to the PNW ] to create G13 /HP#1 .

Thanks for sharin

EB .
 
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