making "black" hash?

[Jamie]

Hi All,

I'm a long long way from needing this info in any practical sense, but I'm interested all the same. I see many people are making their own hash these days and seemingly a lot of the end product from dry sifting and water extraction is blonde. nothing wrong with that I hasten to add.

I see the ISO and butane methods offer up a more "oily" extraction and wondered is that how you make "black/paki/afghan" type hash? or is it a matter of processing the trichomes further to achieve the "sweet" old school kind of black?

I also saw dry sift being heat treated and then pressed but again this reminded me more of a dark marrocan than the hash I'd like to make.

I'm assuming I'll need a heavy indica to start with also

 

[L33t]

I see the ISO and butane methods offer up a more "oily" extraction and wondered is that how you make "black/paki/afghan" type hash? or is it a matter of processing the trichomes further to achieve the "sweet" old school kind of black?

Well good quality ISO & BHO should be a honey like color in general and should be quite solid in room temp.

With ISO when you leave the plant matter(trim/bud) for too long youll get dark to tar black hash.But for the best results go with a 'quick ISO wash'. (15secs to 1 minute max exposure)

I also saw dry sift being heat treated and then pressed but again this reminded me more of a dark marrocan than the hash I'd like to make.

I'm assuming I'll need a heavy indica to start with also

Genetics dictate the color of hash so does trichome maturity but I see no reason why one would really want black hash .

The color of the hash darkens the more its oxidized , if you press it , it will go darker. Apply heat and it will go darker. The more you 'play' it the more dark it will get . Charas/hand rubbed hash, is usually very dark in color cause its been exposed to heat and pressure for a long time.Air exposure also darkens hash.

Hash of the best quality should be of a relatively light color (brownish) , this doesnt mean that you cant get dark/black hash of very good quality .

 

[Jamie]

The more you 'play' it the more dark it will get . Charas/hand rubbed hash, is usually very dark in color cause its been exposed to heat and pressure for a long time.Air exposure also darkens hash.

perfect, I think my answer lies there, sounds like a perfectly nice way to spend time

although I dont think I'll be live rubbing as I hands like an old trucker... and I dare say it takes a serious amount of herb to begin with


thanks for the info


p.s which is the more important in terms of flavour, the cure of the weed or the cure of the hash? or both?

 

[L33t]

p.s which is the more important in terms of flavour, the cure of the weed or the cure of the hash? or both?

Depends on what method you use for extraction.

If you go with dry sieve process , dry well and cure the trim , then make the hash. its more important to do a long cure before extracting the trichs then just cure the unpressed hash for a week or two and it should be fine.Then press it and enjoy. Some people dont like to press it but I do.

With water extractions you can use fresh trim but you'll need to cure the hash for good result , before you press it .

 

[Jamie]

thanks again for the quick reply - direct, to the point, exactly the info I needed (twice)

 

[shogirl]

Hi Jamie,I have just made some hash and oil from some mold spored super silver haze and skunk/haze. All was primo bud and what a shame as I don't care that much for hash,always loved the spliff. I came up with a few ways to make it and one was as l33t stated quickly run the iso through pure crumbled up dry bud through a permanent coffee strainer in to a mason jar. Pour out the filtered iso into a flat pyrex dish and let air dry or on a low heat vent and viola.I scraped up the residue into a piece of black rubbery,elastic piece of hash. Other stuff a little runnier mixed with a l'il dry sief and again some beautiful black hash of the gold seal type of yore and just knocks you on your asssssss!! I have too much oil that I think will last me 5 years heheheh yuuuk. Can hardly wait for my present grow so I can have a spliff of ssh et al Peace Shogirl

 

[Jamie]

oooh mixing in a bit of dry sift..... that sounds ideal - does it look like a peice of hand rubbed hash now? all Charas like?

 

[herbmister]

talkin of black years ago in the dam i got some nep temple ball very expensive but my god was it strong had me gigglein for hours

wonderfull stuff

 

[shogirl]

oooh mixing in a bit of dry sift..... that sounds ideal - does it look like a peice of hand rubbed hash now? all Charas like?

yes and some other hash turned out as bit softer also as like hash I had purchaced years ago. best texture was the gold seal type hash that got hardened up conciderably when not in my fingers and when you pull apart it was dark green to black inside. Basically a giant piece of finger hash and I'm not sure How I got there probably the primo dry sief mixed with the quick iso rupper hash Showgirl

 

[shogirl]

talkin of black years ago in the dam i got some nep temple ball very expensive but my god was it strong had me gigglein for hours

wonderfull stuff

Oh yes I remember smoking some of that and watching a harvest moon for hours..what a memory..what a age.Peace Shogirl

 

[Jamie]

a great time in Holland for imported hash and no mistake - Manali cream at 30 guilders a pop from One Love ...hmmmmm creamy

 

[herbmister]

hi J if your ever up for sendin red cross parcels lol only messin
you lucky man

 

[Jamie]

(Jamie does a little birthday dance)


Mate - I went out this morning in search of something along those lines, came home with Ice-o-later hash... nothing to be found around my way of any genuine quality thats been imported from India/Pakistan/Nepal ... that said "when" I do find something worthy, I'll send u a spliff no bother

 

[Jamie]

... some beautiful black hash of the gold seal type of yore and just knocks you on your asssssss!!....

I was recently reading some posts "elsewhere" that mentioned the old red/blue and gold seals.. and how this was probably one of the earliest "marketing by name" schemes employed in the uk scene

I wasnt able to post "elsewhere" so I couldnt add this...

I remember well that we used to get all kind of gold stamps too, my fave ever peice of that kind of hash carried an "Elephant" stamp - subsequently "elephant black".. as well as that many bars back then came with an AK47 stamped or emblazoned on them.. my guru at the time informed me that this was to signify that the sale of one bar represented one additional rifle for the Mujahadin. Something I was never all that happy about, but on the other hand, if you've ever bought any kind of import then you're probably fuelling someones war somewhere...so, the original AK47 or what?

 

[Mother ShaBooBoo]

Yer hash is the bomb, I haven't seen that in Australia since the 80's, The only bad thing about black hash was it looked like poo balls hehe

 

[gertbfrow]

jamie doesnt come around here anymore, I do see him over at icmag...

 

[Donald Mallard]

I should think climate and location(soil types etc) could also dictate the colours experienced in hash ..
I would definately agree temperature makes a big difference , and many folks i see are making hash in cooler climates which is a little more forgiving as far as a slow drying process goes , what the cooler climate water hash makers get away with as far as curing etc ,, we cant in the tropics , humidity and heat is not kind to hashish if its not dried properly initially .
I make quite a lot of hash each year and have seen blonde hash only the odd time , mostly from indoor grown herb ..
The hash i make from the outdoor herb is most often brown , black or a red colour , mostly dark bording on black ... now and then we will get marbled hash, which is usually very good quality ..

Mother shabooboo , there used to be some very nice hash around those parts in the 80s , was always a hash season once the greenery dried up if i recall ..
something very cool these days is we can make hash quite a lot better than what we used to toke in those days and in the comfort of our homes , doesnt get much better than that ..
ill dig up some hash pictures if anyone is interested ....

 

[L33t]

hi Donald Mallard

hope all is well

I agree growing conditions and location can affect color in hash and temps making a big difference as well in the final product
i was wondering how to you keep and smoke your hash , loose form or pressed?

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I make quite a lot of hash each year and have seen blonde hash only the odd time , mostly from indoor grown herb ..
The hash i make from the outdoor herb is most often brown , black or a red colour , mostly dark bording on black ... now and then we will get marbled hash, which is usually very good quality ..

ill dig up some hash pictures if anyone is interested ....

Btw interesting to hear about the color differences between your indoor and outdoor hash.
I remember seeing some comparison bud and macro pics from uv treated vs untreated plants from an experiment done by a fellow grower and the uv-treated plants had more amber and violet-red colored resin/trichs so maybe the difference in color between your indoor vs outdoor buds are due to this since you are in an area with strong uv radiation?

btw would love to see some of your hash pics when you have time to dig some up

 

[Donald Mallard]

Id agree there L33t , i talked with bubble man about it and he mentioned the only place he had seen the marbled stuff like i had was in the tropical hash they made in jamaica , so guessing it is as you say uv light affecting the colours of the trichs , i should do a bit of closer photography to see whats going on this year down at that level ,, new camera and lenses at the ready ..

anyhows heres a few shots youll be able to see some colouration with ,, unlike shots you will see from some folks where their resins didnt dry before pressing ,, this is actually the colour ...

 

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O luvely bubbly,


think you should send me some.lol. Just to make sure its ok?!


Donald that looks most excellent sir!.




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