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Freedom_Fighter
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G13 IBL
Current bid: €300.22
wow
/steve
With 4 days left to go. Wonder how high the bidding will go? I swore to myself that I was done with seed purchases for this year, but this one is probably the only seed that could possibly get me to change my mind about that. However, I'm out. Good luck to the current bidders!
Cheers! - FF
CanaViper
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G13 IBL
Current bid: €300.22
wow
/steve
So been thinking, this IBL, when talking about a particular strain, would be the best choice if you wanted to breed your on version of this G13 line.
IE: G13 x something.
Is that the reason for the for the cost. Plus don't see a G13 non IBL so this must be pretty sought after...
just thinking out loud. /steve
Info for newbies:
Inbred line (IBL) means the genetics of a plant are stabilized and consistent throughout many generations, which in turn allows breeders to produce offspring with stable and consistent traits. Breeders generally focus on dominant traits like the effect, appearance, potency, and aroma
Freedom_Fighter
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Yes, it's very rare and highly sought after by breeders because it's absolutely one of the best genetic building blocks you could possibly add to your genetics collection. It's one of a very few select indicas that have the genetic potential to yield up to 30% THC, but it will require sifting the F2 generation for the super potent progeny.
The fact that it's an IBL makes it all that more desirable to breeders, as it will produce killer F1 hybrid vigor if crossed with a stable breed of highly dissimilar genetic background.
Cheers! - FF
CanaViper
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Freedom_Fighter
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Sorry, I'm not sure about the myth or the parents, though I suspect it descends from pure Afghani genes. According to the "story", the stolen cut tested above 28% THC; which seems to imply F1 status, to me; or possibly F2. Based on that test, though, and the story attached to it, it was the most potent indica known, at that time.
So, since it was clone only, it had to be out-crossed and inbred to IBL status, to preserve the genetics. It's difficult to speculate, if not impossible, about how many cuts were distributed in the USA before Nevil got his.
In the podcast interview with Shantibaba, posted on the forum recently, he attempts to address the issue / problem about how different plants on the market are sometimes known & sold under the same "trademark" name, but appear dissimilar.
It has to do with the breeding process that involves individualized breeder selection; but then still calling it by the same name, rather than rename it, after all that work, if it looks little or nothing like its original parent(s).
Not being a breeder myself, it's something better explained by Shantibaba than I; but, I seem to recall him discussing that topic, in the podcast, in connection with the different Hazes & Skunks that Nevil had access to, and worked with in the '80s, along with the SS & RC Clarke; some of which still survives as 40 year old seed stock; if I understood correctly.
I recall Shantibaba saying there was great variety or variability among the Hazes back then; but they were called "hazes". I think I recall him saying it was possible, back then, to fill a room with a hundred different plants, all of which were all "hazes", technically.
So, selections had to be made; and he said that Neville's selections were uniquely his own, and those by Watson & Clarke were uniquely their's. Shanti said that he & Nevil would make different Haze selections, based on different criteria. He said they had a different morphology that is still visible or detectable today, in the MNS genetics.
Anyway, It sounded to me like Nevil, Clarke and Watson worked closely, or collaborated on some breeding projects, for a short period; until it all fell apart when the 'Green Merchant' bomb dropped.
That ended their joint breeding projects and those common strains which were already branded as "Haze" and "Skunk1", along with other strains, developed in different directions, from that point on, based on individualized breeder selections.
In terms of pheno hunting ability, Shantibaba said that Nevil was the real gene chaser among those three; and had the most influence on their development, producing superior versions of the Haze & Skunk1. Maybe I imagined it, but I thought I heard Shantibaba say that Clarke had a Skunk1 phenotype that made killer outdoor hash; which really impressed him.
So, why am I saying that anyway? Because in "theory" three different breeders, in the '80s, could have each obtained a G13 cut, out-crossed and back-crossed it 4 times, and ended up with 3 different looking versions of G13, based on the selection skill(s); but all 3 are legitimately called G13 if all the female selections were highly G13 dominant, selected for looking the most like the Original cut.
So, anyway, I personally have zero doubt that Nevil possessed the real G13, and worked it well, until it was lost; and I have zero doubt that Shantibaba obtained an authentic G13 replacement. You are getting the real deal from MNS. That's not at all to say it's the only version of G13 out there; but there aren't many and it's not so easy to find it as an IBL in regular seed.
Cheers! - FF
A good grow is always a good advertise isn't it ?G13 IBL
Current bid: €300.22
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/steve
there is not much around from the G13 ibl.Is a very nice strain and fairly has the legendary status but some people go insane with the bids.
Diesel840
Well-known member
Besides being excellent for breeding purposes becuase of the genotype stability from being an IBL, it isn't available normally so people jump at the opportunity to purchase. All pf the IBL's turn into a bit of a bidding war.
Shanti has stated how different growers can all start with the same exact batch of seeds, and after several generations of breeding each will take on its own unique qualities. It all comes down to selection.
I look at G13 in the same frame of mind as I do Haze. Regardless of whether Nevil had the "real haze" or "real G13he" is the breeder who put it on the map. When people first learned about and tried G13 or haze, it is nevils version people are familiar with. If I want the Hazes, widows, G13's ect, which first rocked the canna word, then I want the people who made it famous to begin with, enter Shantibaba with his and Nevils library of mums and pops.
Diesel840
Well-known member
wonder if this will be a repeat 
if not, then damn. Congrats to the winner.
Hard to believe though, when it jumps up a thousand euros in a single bid.
Skunkerbudz
2022 COE Winner
Another instance of an auction and a chance at a rare strain being taken away I bet ...
BrotherBoris
Well-known member
Update as promised. First order went so well that I made another and all went well again. Delivery was within 7-10 to USA.
CanaViper
Well-known member
Everything from both Mr nice websites is quick, efficient and fast. First shipment under 2 weeks to East Coast usa
Shipment for new site posted today, speeding processing and very good communication.
Working on second order from here, scored me some nl5xhaze and other gems the last few dayzzz
I have almost built up a retirement stash that will help me to calm down on purchases, this has been a goldmine for
setting up my future plans, i never dreamed i would have this access... ahh life works in mysterious ways.
No worries from Mr Nice.
/steve approved!
Shipment for new site posted today, speeding processing and very good communication.
Working on second order from here, scored me some nl5xhaze and other gems the last few dayzzz
I have almost built up a retirement stash that will help me to calm down on purchases, this has been a goldmine for
setting up my future plans, i never dreamed i would have this access... ahh life works in mysterious ways.
No worries from Mr Nice.
/steve approved!
Deach69
2022 COE Winner
FFS
. Although, if there was one source I'd get G13ibl from its MNSOn another note, I just received my MNS order in Canada in less than a week from Europe, amazing. And I love the stealthy way it was done, much appreciated. Thanks to Sara and Shanti, cheers!!!
