brock1
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[it doesn't matter how many seeds you have, what is within them is the same.. ie the genetic codes within the grain is the same in all the seed be it from 1000 seeds or 100. the diversity within is the same ALL you have is more seeds!.]
no you wrong maybe you should look at how genes sometime aren't passed on at all not even as a recessive one. some times a plant has to copy a gene from the other parent not because it dominant or recessive but simply because its missing. you can have a loads of things that can change the genes in a population mutations ect. the bigger the population the greater the chance of this happening. if you not open pollinating then this can ad to diversity and help prevent bottlenecking. if you just re ad the gene then by open pollinating then its not going to help for long.
[bottlenecking is rel to the Ne and outcrossers. If you don't think as a crop cannabis has sims to corn in the way to breed them and grow then we are fucked!.]
this is you way of explaining how its relevant? seems more a way of saying sheep join the flock because i say so! look at it from my point of view you haven't explained anything. blind faith isn't my thing sorry. i don't believe in god ether because it's blind faith.
[hence for both hybrids are where its at!. hence many clones that you see are very inbred... they long to be outcrossed... only prob is some are carry too many recessives... (wonder why)]
and why is this? maybe because before people like Nevil started distributing cannabis seeds they were inbreed to hell. farmers who breed them weren't open pollinating. males were removed so the plants made more THC only strays that had grown from seeds from previous year and the od male were left to pollinate a entire population of 100's or even 1000's of related plant. ad this to the fact that entire populations of LR plant have been destroyed by the DEA and other similar organization and you will see its not to different to how man eradicates wild animals till the population is to small then try bringing it back from a pathetically small population and over breed them because of the value they have being so endangered.
[you ever had an inbred line and come across the stand out plant that has SI problems?]
i have had more then my sheer of problems with SI plants maybe you should take a look in my gallery on my profile there's a few in there. i don't see the relevance that has to corn which is also full of SI problem. even though i have been told it doesn't inbreed its a out crosser. all things that inbreed will bottleneck. slight inbreeding can produce a special plant as well have you never seen one?
[more inbred = less diversity... 1:1 matng is pretty inbred wouldn't you agree?
i would but then a 1:1 mating is only 2 plants of a population and a single moment in time. what your failing to look at is the bigger picture where cannabis isn't corn. like i said a cannabis plant can be cloned and keeped around for decades and breed from with different plants time and time again. 1 single cannabis plant can breed and make seeds with easily a 100 different plant's in its life time can it not? can corn do this over such a long period? this would result in more diversity then you could get from a entire field of corn and the Ne would be a lot healthier than that of just open pollinating a field would it not? this is were small scale hobby breeders have a upper hand on simple open pollination with 1:1 mating. i don't disagree with what your saying. there's just more than one way to skin a rabbit as the saying goes. same result slower proses. and a pedigree if you want one of known parents something you cant do with open pollination's. this would slow down any bottlenecking more so then doing all the mating at the same time in one place do you not agree? it also allows for selection. the only problem is the conservative side of thing. something i see more people interested in there day since the eradication of old LR strain. now do you see how cannabis isn't the same as corn? the same results can come from cannabis over a longer time then you would get from a field of corn simple because it can be cloned and re grown. preservation is the medicine of bottlenecking. not pollinating everything in a big field.
out crossing like inbreeding it's a tool that shouldn't be abused imoa as it can also speed up bottlenecking the entire population not just a small population.
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