A Bush Bloke’s Foundation Genetics Journey

Bush ranger

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G’day everyone,


I thought I’d kick off a thread that’s probably going to wander all over the place over time.
After forty years of growing in the great outdoors .I honestly thought I had a pretty good handle on what interested me. Turns out I was wrong.
Like plenty of us, I spent years chasing bigger plants, bigger harvests and trying the latest hybrids. Nothing wrong with that either—it was all part of the journey.

Then somewhere along the way I caught myself asking a different question.
Instead of “What’s the next great strain?” it became “Why do people still talk about these old lines thirty years later?”
Well… that was probably my first mistake. 😂
Because one question turned into ten, then fifty, and before I knew it I’d disappeared headfirst down a genetics rabbit hole that I don’t think I’m ever coming back from.
That’s what eventually led me to Mr. Nice.

I’m not here because I think I’ve got anything to teach. Quite the opposite. There are people on this forum who’ve forgotten more than I’ll ever know, and I’m hoping to learn a bit from them along the way.
I’ve started what I jokingly call my Foundation Genetics Project. The idea is pretty simple. Instead of chasing every shiny new release, I want to understand the genetics that became the foundation for so much of what we enjoy today.
For me that currently means reading everything I can, asking probably too many questions, and slowly working my way through lines like Black Widow, G13 Haze, Critical Mass and Early Skunk. Not because I think they’re automatically the “best”, but because they all seem to have left their fingerprints on modern cannabis.
As I learn more, I’m sure that’ll expand to include other old lines as well. The list will probably change ten times before I’m done, and that’s half the fun.
As for breeding… that’s a little ways off yet . I reckon you’ve got to earn that right first. I’d much rather spend time understanding the parents than rushing into making crosses I don’t properly understand.
One thing worth mentioning up front… my lifestyle doesn’t allow me to grow continuously or keep a weekly grow journal. There’ll be times I’m around a lot and times I disappear for a while. So if this thread goes quiet occasionally, don’t assume I’ve fallen off the planet. Life just has a habit of getting in the way sometimes.
Also, my little patch isn’t a picture-perfect setup by any stretch. If I was designing it purely for growing, I’d probably make a few different decisions. But, like many people still growing under prohibition, sometimes you work with the location you’ve got rather than the one you’d choose. That brings its own set of challenges, but I actually don’t mind. In a funny sort of way, it’s forced me to stop chasing perfection and start understanding what genuinely works within my own little corner of the world.

What I’m hoping this thread becomes is pretty simple.
A place to ask questions.
Share observations.
Talk about old lines.
Hear the stories behind them.
Maybe bust a few myths.
Probably create a few new questions.
Talking with people as passionate as I am . And I learn somethings along the way
Fair warning though… once I get onto genetics I have an unfortunate habit of rambling. Someone usually has to drag me back out of whatever rabbit hole I’ve disappeared into. 😄

Anyway, thanks for having me. Grab a beer, pull up a chair and feel free to tell me where I need to look or where I’m wandering off track ( happens all the time 😉 )



Cheers,
Bushy
 
Should be a good thread Bushy.
I think my journey has similarities.
I looked at MNS strains for over a year before I started bidding.
As I understood their histories, legacies and timelines, they stood out for their pedigree.
Why pay a capitalist good money for an F2 or S1 copy, probably bought here.
It’s hit and miss entering the cannabis seed market, but when I eventually chose a direction I started heading to my desires.
I do miss the decades were cult strains existed as a topic of conversation, not a possible reality, bag seed rocked and it was how the weed worked not the way it looked.
Being an old fart I count my life expectancy in seasons left. It’s been stuck on 20 more for the last five or so years 👍
Lots of good topics to join you in down those warrens.
 
Should be a good thread Bushy.
I think my journey has similarities.
I looked at MNS strains for over a year before I started bidding.
As I understood their histories, legacies and timelines, they stood out for their pedigree.
Why pay a capitalist good money for an F2 or S1 copy, probably bought here.
It’s hit and miss entering the cannabis seed market, but when I eventually chose a direction I started heading to my desires.
I do miss the decades were cult strains existed as a topic of conversation, not a possible reality, bag seed rocked and it was how the weed worked not the way it looked.
Being an old fart I count my life expectancy in seasons left. It’s been stuck on 20 more for the last five or so years 👍
Lots of good topics to join you in down those warrens.
Mate, I reckon we’re walking a pretty similar road.
The deeper I get into these old lines, the more it all comes into focus—I’m not chasing trends or bag appeal, I’m chasing that feeling that hooked me in the first place. Its really always about flavour, character, and a smoke that lingered long after the last exhale.
I keep thinking back to those old Thai sticks from the 80’s and sandwich bags full of golf ball sized buds that could stink up the house —and those random bag seeds that somehow turned out magic. Back then, no one talked about percentages or zoomed-in trichome shots. If it was a good smoke , and had everyone laughing around the fire, that was all that mattered.
There’s nothing wrong with all the new strains coming through—they’ve got their place and plenty of people love them. It’s just not what I’m chasing after right now. I keep finding myself circling back to the older genetics and the growers who’ve quietly kept them alive all this time.
And don’t go counting seasons just yet, mate. Twenty has a funny way of sticking around if you refuse to let it go. 😄
I’ve got a feeling there are a few good rabbit holes ahead of us.
 
Welcome Bush Ranger, bloody good to have you on board! I'm all about the older lines too and they grow so well under the Aussie sun it's hard to say no! With all these hype strains that turn up every now and then, I just try to keep focus on what I'm actually looking for and that is effect, yield, flavour and then looks 😃 I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice on here and I look forward to seeing what you grow out 🙏
 
Welcome Bush Ranger, bloody good to have you on board! I'm all about the older lines too and they grow so well under the Aussie sun it's hard to say no! With all these hype strains that turn up every now and then, I just try to keep focus on what I'm actually looking for and that is effect, yield, flavour and then looks 😃 I'm sure you'll get lots of good advice on here and I look forward to seeing what you grow out 🙏
Thanks Easty . I feel you mate , doing the big bed expansion in couple of weeks time , then while the microbial army recovers I’ll do an auto run just cause I have a few in the fridge , before starting the Blue Tara seed run mid October
Autos current lineup ( subject to late changes 😝 )
Fat Bastard
Moby Dick
Amnesia Haze
Possibly Future1as a ring in
 
Thanks Easty . I feel you mate , doing the big bed expansion in couple of weeks time , then while the microbial army recovers I’ll do an auto run just cause I have a few in the fridge , before starting the Blue Tara seed run mid October
Autos current lineup ( subject to late changes 😝 )
Fat Bastard
Moby Dick
Amnesia Haze
Possibly Future1as a ring in
You'll love that Blue Tara! That Bubba Moonshine is a cracker parent 👌
 
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