Holy Smoke, Holy Grail, and Widow Grail

Hey Shanti...

Sorry to hear you are on lockdown in N Italy... may be a good time to get you on the boards to clarify some info on your new releases. That hash u got should make the forum bearable for long enough that u can satisfy the forum members questions. As usual this will probably lead to more questions arguments etc. But a good opportunity for posterity.

We still have no info on Holy Smoke, can you disclose the genetics on this?

Also can you please once and for all state "categorically" that Mr Haze C is alive and kicking? A pic would say a million words you know that. The new release Holy Grail is sired by C, so if he is in rotation show him to the masses. Silence the naysayers. Once and for all. Pretty please.
 

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sounds like its tripled up on haze C, since it was already in NH and AC.

dont make this out to seem im not satisfied with whats offered,
just curious on the reasons behind such creations.

Why no NH x Haze C directly?
Why not an AC female x haze C?

i dont think shanti has to say haze C is alive, he just did by stating its use in these new crosses.
 
Hi All

firstly Growstone...well done for Hunters and Collectors song Holy Grail, if i must be totally honest it was one of the reasons i call it so...and Throw Your Arms around me is probably my choice of song to be remembered by...so well done!

Haze C , Haze AC, Afghan skunk, Afghan Haze, Skunk and Widow males are and have always been around since and before MNS was formed...not sure why or who is asking this but that should be clear.

The thing is with most things if people wish to ask directly and get a direct answer...then believe it or stop asking. See if you ask someone you do not trust a question it is better not to ask, as you will always be in doubt. If you ask someone you trust directly then you must believe them otherwise it means you no longer trust. So hope that is answered thoroughly now and this can stop side tracking you!

Now it is correct that i am stuck in North Italy and will be possibly more around than ever before. However we are harvesting our greenhouse in WA at present and very happy to have gone right through the winter this year to arrive at a crop that looks great.
We are getting ready with our Hemp farm in Colorado and Switzerland and cloning like crazy...but we also have completed CBD Gandhi which will fit commercial hemp farmers and extraction purposes well.
We have several other new projects on the cards but will write about them once it is all clearly defined...
Lastly the new company Sciva Corporation ( www.scivacorp.com) is something i am really excited about considering all the genetic work, plant production/extraction/refinement of my own strains is now in an finished product I controlled from beginning to end and use myself...as do my kids. Thanks to partners that have always concentrated on doing the job first and money second we have achieved such accomplishments. So wish to say big thanks to Evan, Ryan and Dr. Iva all who are their own bosses but who work with me to achieve these great things that were all impossible 30 years ago!

Stay safe and all the best Sb
 
What about Holy smoke Shanti :)

Can we get a litlle tease on it too?
Just a litlle direction if possible so we can guess-game a little?

My guess is, there will be something special in flavours.
So there could be some Afghan, maybe Afghan Haze role-play in?
 
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shantibaba said:
Hi All

firstly Growstone...well done for Hunters and Collectors song Holy Grail, if i must be totally honest it was one of the reasons i call it so...and Throw Your Arms around me is probably my choice of song to be remembered by...so well done!

Haze C , Haze AC, Afghan skunk, Afghan Haze, Skunk and Widow males are and have always been around since and before MNS was formed...not sure why or who is asking this but that should be clear.

The thing is with most things if people wish to ask directly and get a direct answer...then believe it or stop asking. See if you ask someone you do not trust a question it is better not to ask, as you will always be in doubt. If you ask someone you trust directly then you must believe them otherwise it means you no longer trust. So hope that is answered thoroughly now and this can stop side tracking you!

Now it is correct that i am stuck in North Italy and will be possibly more around than ever before. However we are harvesting our greenhouse in WA at present and very happy to have gone right through the winter this year to arrive at a crop that looks great.
We are getting ready with our Hemp farm in Colorado and Switzerland and cloning like crazy...but we also have completed CBD Gandhi which will fit commercial hemp farmers and extraction purposes well.
We have several other new projects on the cards but will write about them once it is all clearly defined...
Lastly the new company Sciva Corporation ( Sciva Corporation - Sciva Corporation) is something i am really excited about considering all the genetic work, plant production/extraction/refinement of my own strains is now in an finished product I controlled from beginning to end and use myself...as do my kids. Thanks to partners that have always concentrated on doing the job first and money second we have achieved such accomplishments. So wish to say big thanks to Evan, Ryan and Dr. Iva all who are their own bosses but who work with me to achieve these great things that were all impossible 30 years ago!

Stay safe and all the best Sb
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Rocking those winter crops and still coming out on top, not easy to do. Well done man.
Looking forward to some of those stringy pearls haze c loves throwing, eagerly awaiting others. Rock on man.
 
Hi All


hope you are all coping with this world precedent....sure it may seem tough but time to do all those jobs around the house and all those projects you been putting off....

I took a walk around the house figured i wanted to do some wood work for a while but never been in the head space...was too busy so i thought. Now i made half a dozen shelves ...amazing myself too!

So i puffed on what i call a world joint today...mixed Moroccan, Afghan, Nepali and my own Shantibaba blend...put on this album i been wanting to listen to from start to finish....so today is that day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFBEQst_FMo

Anyway later today i will tackle finishing writing up the new descriptions of the new strains...missing photos but will add as they come in...so hope you are all doing well?

All the best Sb
 
Hey all....

I hope everyone is keeping themselves healthy and happy with their loved ones. Just hope supplies last long enough for us all if you are on lockdown.

Shantibaba can you please let us know release dates for the new strains. Think a lot of us will have extra time on our hands so I wanna get planting soon. Self sufficiency seems a must.

Also can we have the details for Holy Smoke?
 
Hey all....it took me many years, but when I finally came to the conclusion..." Let the seeds speak for themselves ".....life suddenly became...less complicated.
Anyway, peace friends.
Hope everyone is good during these current times, lots of love and light...Sensient xx
 
Yeah thats the case for hoby growers (just grow the seed an nothing else maters) things have changed now. Theres places on the planet now were people are able to grow seriously large amounts legally. Now if some one wants to breed an make seed strains for the future certain things are very important. For example if i have a 1000 seeds planted and certain traits an things are showing up in some an not in others it then becomes important to understand whats happening an why it happens. The correct information about what your using can help you understand an predict an work things that may show up afew generations later. One day that information may have to be passed on to another generation of medical users an breeders. Its not gona make things easy if the information is a jumbled mess that dont even make sense with what your seeing in the seeds. Things are changing its no longer just about small time hoby growers growing 5 or 10 seeds.
 
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Yeah, taken totally out of context mate.
And um...what are you talking about bro...there called different phenos!
Lineage will give you an idea of what to expect.
But many different factors come in to play
Its a plant mate.
Same clone can look completely different grown in a different enviorment.
So I guess you want Scott to tell you the exact expressions you,ll encounter in your enviorment?
Or every single pheno you will encounter in the line.
Yeah, cool story bro....you grow 1000 seedlings and expect all the plants to look the same or very simular ?
You don't get how genetics work, do you?
 
sensient said:
Yeah, taken totally out of context mate.
And um...what are you talking about bro...there called different phenos!
Lineage will give you an idea of what to expect.
But many different factors come in to play
Its a plant mate.
Same clone can look completely different grown in a different enviorment.
So I guess you want Scott to tell you the exact expressions you,ll encounter in your enviorment?
Or every single pheno you will encounter in the line.
Yeah, cool story bro....you grow 1000 seedlings and expect all the plants to look the same or very simular ?
You don't get how genetics work, do you?
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Sory sensient, it wasnt supposed to be directed at you. I suppose it was just more a rant about how things are in general. No one seem to take things seriously no more. Its like were second class citizens. Im on about something different to what your saying. A pedigree should be a indication of whats there an if going to F2's it should give you a fare chance at hitting parental type phenotypes and not getting further stablized to your parent matings. It was more a rant about the whole industry in general.Some people dont understand this. My 1000 seeds was an example which I did make clear. Sorry mate it wasnt directed at you. No one needs to tell anyone anything lets leave it at that. EG. I expext holy grail to throw many hazeC phenos, especially at f2 being 50% if not more haze c, I expect a good chance at finding many that match the parents. This is why il be getting them. Scott has done this when making ibl's too. Il be looking forward to it.
 
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shantibaba said:
Hi All

Taken a bit of time due to the other workloads consuming me so my apologies for that but I do hope the new offerings will satisfy some old timers and new comers to Haze world.
Holy Grail came about from Nevil Haze bred to Haze AC , then we selected an excellent female NHxAC and bred it to Haze C male...so doubled up on the C...and after testing those beans over 2 long crops indoors it seems quite a special combination. Fore sure it is not for everyone, but those who love the challenge and pot of gold at the end of a rainbow may well find this exciting work. Little tip on this strain from my limited crops...go directly into 12 / 12 from beginning of germination...if you go limited space indoors.

CBD Gandhi-new CBD fem strain coming in at 8 to 13% CBD >0.2%THC...so feminized hemp strain suitable for hemp farmers saving all cloning work and setups....“In a gentle way, you can shake the world.”M.Gandhi

will share the others soon as i see them flowering again next week.....hope those teasers are of interest to a few of you waiting patiently on me to finish.

All the best Sb
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Whats haze AC ?
 
Shanti, are you still locked down in the North of Italy? Any information on this release? Are you going to ask any MNS member to be testers? I'm really curious about holy grail and holy smoke.
 
Aloha!

With the worldwide "scare" now abating and it getting on June, is there an update of substance? A release date, perhaps this year?


Shaka
Mu
 
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