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matthewriot
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I would like to encourage everyone who seeks to understand TRUTH to check out the below link, and explore the concepts discussed therein.
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If we identify our self with the idea we are discussing, then we set our self up to be destroyed when the dominant meme presents itself.* We then waste a lot of time trying to protect our self from a false attack that does not exist. We sink into irrationality and confusion. We create ‘false problems’ that do not exist and attempt to solve the nonexistent problem while the objective problem remains un addressed.
OS 0 1 2 BASIC
If we identify our self with the idea we are discussing, then we set our self up to be destroyed when the dominant meme presents itself.* We then waste a lot of time trying to protect our self from a false attack that does not exist. We sink into irrationality and confusion. We create ‘false problems’ that do not exist and attempt to solve the nonexistent problem while the objective problem remains un addressed.
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bigherb
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Chaso skunk an Kush
Since we have seen a wide range of discussion off the topic ,id like to say a few things .I need to get off my chest since i havnt posted in a while .If i get banned(which seems impossible here) soo be it im Fed the fukk up
I work craz hours an im not home for days at a time on occasion ,in a matter of a day or 2 this thread went to shit it got ruined completely an that pisses me off .Its specifically becaz of some egoistic psychopath who is clearly off his rocker .it slear hempy has apersonal vendetta with me an its clear he is a sick man who is a habitual liar
Mediator where are you ? LMAO
Freedom of speeh becomes a joke at some point because in the Real world an where im from it woulnt have gone this far .It would have been done a long time ago .This is the net ,soo anything goes .But as there are rules in life they sghould apply here aswell .There are rules at MNS but they are not followed nor any repercussion for foul actions .
Id exspected all types of opinions from day one since my thought to publish this article .I Do not consider myself a writer expert or journalist of anything .I dont have to answer anything but i enjoy talking about haze .I am a man of respect an a can only say soo much about what i know ,wheter you choose to understand or not .Same with my article , i poured my heart out is it poorly written some might consider it soo but id love too see a brighter light on the haze origin an it would amaze me .
I have had many mixed emotions for a year or soo at MNS ,the start of this thread an Kangas return brought me back to the place i once felt .I asked from the beginning to speak your piece an move on say what ever you feel but do it respectfully .Id loev to dsicuss anythin gi can but something i dont have answers too an if i answer you more than once than it is amatter of opinion soo lets leave it at that .
I tried an have ignored a few ill comments especially hempy's first few ,but i was amazed at all the positive feedback from all sites im a member of .
Soo people dont like me for whatever reasons ,we all cant get along i understand .Id love to hear all commments an opinions good an bad but have enough diginity to know when enough is enough .
I dont like too stoop down to alower level but when you hit an edge ,you dont think right .I dont think certain people will ever change .Well i am not sure how i will change for the better or worse .I tried ignoring an it really hasnt made an impact but bneither does fighting soo im stuck right now .
I would like to ask again ,for the MNS family to speak your mind but do it respectfully .I dont wish to Discuss any other topics in here either ,Id like to foucs on haze an its origin
i hope you can understand
I also want to say thankyou to those who can understand the actual menaing of my post .there have been many an sevral post i hit like to not because they debate hempy but because it was much of my feling in the post .Im not great with words or a great typist an there is oo much i want to say an didnt but its been said already .
Im hoping we can get back to a civil discussion
1luvbigherb
Since we have seen a wide range of discussion off the topic ,id like to say a few things .I need to get off my chest since i havnt posted in a while .If i get banned(which seems impossible here) soo be it im Fed the fukk up
I work craz hours an im not home for days at a time on occasion ,in a matter of a day or 2 this thread went to shit it got ruined completely an that pisses me off .Its specifically becaz of some egoistic psychopath who is clearly off his rocker .it slear hempy has apersonal vendetta with me an its clear he is a sick man who is a habitual liar
Mediator where are you ? LMAO
Freedom of speeh becomes a joke at some point because in the Real world an where im from it woulnt have gone this far .It would have been done a long time ago .This is the net ,soo anything goes .But as there are rules in life they sghould apply here aswell .There are rules at MNS but they are not followed nor any repercussion for foul actions .
Id exspected all types of opinions from day one since my thought to publish this article .I Do not consider myself a writer expert or journalist of anything .I dont have to answer anything but i enjoy talking about haze .I am a man of respect an a can only say soo much about what i know ,wheter you choose to understand or not .Same with my article , i poured my heart out is it poorly written some might consider it soo but id love too see a brighter light on the haze origin an it would amaze me .
I have had many mixed emotions for a year or soo at MNS ,the start of this thread an Kangas return brought me back to the place i once felt .I asked from the beginning to speak your piece an move on say what ever you feel but do it respectfully .Id loev to dsicuss anythin gi can but something i dont have answers too an if i answer you more than once than it is amatter of opinion soo lets leave it at that .
I tried an have ignored a few ill comments especially hempy's first few ,but i was amazed at all the positive feedback from all sites im a member of .
Soo people dont like me for whatever reasons ,we all cant get along i understand .Id love to hear all commments an opinions good an bad but have enough diginity to know when enough is enough .
I dont like too stoop down to alower level but when you hit an edge ,you dont think right .I dont think certain people will ever change .Well i am not sure how i will change for the better or worse .I tried ignoring an it really hasnt made an impact but bneither does fighting soo im stuck right now .
I would like to ask again ,for the MNS family to speak your mind but do it respectfully .I dont wish to Discuss any other topics in here either ,Id like to foucs on haze an its origin
i hope you can understand
I also want to say thankyou to those who can understand the actual menaing of my post .there have been many an sevral post i hit like to not because they debate hempy but because it was much of my feling in the post .Im not great with words or a great typist an there is oo much i want to say an didnt but its been said already .
Im hoping we can get back to a civil discussion
1luvbigherb
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JessE
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Hi bigherb,
It would seem you have not addressed any of my questions, and that you are now making indirect threats?
I dont think this is the appropriate forum for such shenanigans and I would like you to first apologize for your insinuation of violence and then get back to addressing the questions and concerns as to the validity of your article please.
If you would like, I can ask the questions again. However any more threats of violence will ultimately result in my assumption you are unable or unwilling to discuss the merits of your article which you've aptly named "the true origins of haze" though most if not all of your information appears to be un-source-able and thus questionable.
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coop
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this shit is laughable yet again.
And there is supposed to be some mediator?
You can't play both sides of the fence MessE
And there is supposed to be some mediator?
You can't play both sides of the fence MessE
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bigherb
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Jesse
Its clear you an hempy share a brain you are the nicer one maybe we can discuss this ill make an attempt .I hope ill get answer good bad it wont be a surprise .the last time you tried to make me look foolish for a second time on the same topic was by quoting my post about the haze plant finishing in comparions to mine after i corrected you you didnt answer soo dont dissapear soo quick
Also what did you an hempy think of those haze buds grown outdoors in the snow on my haze poster ? hempy didnt respond to that one ,i know your both very familiar with outdoor sativas
For many years it was thought of by you an Hempy who told all of the net that Nevil aquired seed stock from within the US specifically what you said its not important but you both called Sams a liar sayin Nevil had different older stock
Correct ?
For years you an British hempire went on about how the Seed bank Nl5haze that was sold used haze A an Nevil tells us it was haze C
Correct ?
I wont go on but i think you get the point
QUOTE]Originally posted by Knowsitall4sure
I never grew Original Haze for sale like the two Haze Brothers that is why I do not consider myself a Haze Brother, even if they used to call me SHEMP, the Unknown Haze Brother.
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I gave them Acapulco Gold,Thai, South Indian seeds, saw the plants, saw their offspring from a Acapulco GoldXColumbian cross, and saw them grown the next year, and many after."[/QUOTE]
Its a cute post do you believe everything you read
common sense we all know sams was abit younger than G n RL do you think he became that close they would joke with a youngin like that .
Aside from that things change when your back is against a wall ,this post from Sams below was in reference to quotes posted by Bushy from hooteroll .If you dont know hooteroll posted here claiming to have been one of the 3 brothers from back east .But i said that already in response to hempy soo im not sure you'll catch on to this response either
what does that tell us above ,
1.He is telling a different story below,contradicting to what he said early but nothing out of this world
2.The article came out in the 80's soo it that when they joked with Sams about him being shemp
Sams was not the first to admitt this ,but when he seen somone else tell another verison of events his story changes abit .makes you ponder ?maybe you i know i did
Im gonna try an slow down for you
J who i refer to in my article ,is an intial i made up to disgiuse the identity of one of the three brothers originally from the east coast .He is the one i spoke with on the phone .This is not the J that sams refers to .you have to ask sams why he used j instead of G as ive said in my opinion it was to protect the indentity .
Think about it sams post i quoted above was the first reference to R.L why ? do you an hempy also believe that r an R.l are didnt people .Look at the full post below
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
Its his first reference to R.L why ???
look a page back where Chamba from Ic claims to have known R.L
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
when the truth comes out true feeling come out when your backs against the wall things change an you react with thinking
maybe chamba is a liar to an not really from the Cruz ,do we need proof a dvr an address how about this
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
Now in the mist of my mind rollin keep in mind that although G n R.L were the two main growers there were other grows taking place an others growers involved with them .Sams in my opinion was not a big part as some think an from what i understand/was told he wasnt around as much as some may think .
It was not revealed in the article because ,the only j is the one i made of to tell the story of one of the 3 brothers from New jersey
I was telling my story not Sams ,this came up in discussion an debate from hempy an the answer is obvious for many but impossible for others to comprehend
He is not new to the story ,he has been in the Cruz before haze he is till in the Cruz an he will be in our most coveted stash for eternity .Ht article below speaks about him with a fairy tale twist ,conicedince ???or maybe im really a sick mother fucker who tells a good story an made all of this up
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - Vintage Cannabis photography
Hope i shed some light for ya ,I doubt it since all i did was repeat what ive said before an some of our other brothers who tried to help you an hempy comprehend
1luvbigherb
Its clear you an hempy share a brain you are the nicer one maybe we can discuss this ill make an attempt .I hope ill get answer good bad it wont be a surprise .the last time you tried to make me look foolish for a second time on the same topic was by quoting my post about the haze plant finishing in comparions to mine after i corrected you you didnt answer soo dont dissapear soo quick
Also what did you an hempy think of those haze buds grown outdoors in the snow on my haze poster ? hempy didnt respond to that one ,i know your both very familiar with outdoor sativas
For many years it was thought of by you an Hempy who told all of the net that Nevil aquired seed stock from within the US specifically what you said its not important but you both called Sams a liar sayin Nevil had different older stock
Correct ?
For years you an British hempire went on about how the Seed bank Nl5haze that was sold used haze A an Nevil tells us it was haze C
Correct ?
I wont go on but i think you get the point
QUOTE]Originally posted by Knowsitall4sure
I never grew Original Haze for sale like the two Haze Brothers that is why I do not consider myself a Haze Brother, even if they used to call me SHEMP, the Unknown Haze Brother.
(...]
I gave them Acapulco Gold,Thai, South Indian seeds, saw the plants, saw their offspring from a Acapulco GoldXColumbian cross, and saw them grown the next year, and many after."[/QUOTE]
Its a cute post do you believe everything you read
common sense we all know sams was abit younger than G n RL do you think he became that close they would joke with a youngin like that .
Aside from that things change when your back is against a wall ,this post from Sams below was in reference to quotes posted by Bushy from hooteroll .If you dont know hooteroll posted here claiming to have been one of the 3 brothers from back east .But i said that already in response to hempy soo im not sure you'll catch on to this response either
what does that tell us above ,
1.He is telling a different story below,contradicting to what he said early but nothing out of this world
2.The article came out in the 80's soo it that when they joked with Sams about him being shemp
Sams was not the first to admitt this ,but when he seen somone else tell another verison of events his story changes abit .makes you ponder ?maybe you i know i did
Im gonna try an slow down for you
J who i refer to in my article ,is an intial i made up to disgiuse the identity of one of the three brothers originally from the east coast .He is the one i spoke with on the phone .This is not the J that sams refers to .you have to ask sams why he used j instead of G as ive said in my opinion it was to protect the indentity .
Think about it sams post i quoted above was the first reference to R.L why ? do you an hempy also believe that r an R.l are didnt people .Look at the full post below
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
Its his first reference to R.L why ???
look a page back where Chamba from Ic claims to have known R.L
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
when the truth comes out true feeling come out when your backs against the wall things change an you react with thinking
maybe chamba is a liar to an not really from the Cruz ,do we need proof a dvr an address how about this
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - question for sam the skunkman on the original haze
Now in the mist of my mind rollin keep in mind that although G n R.L were the two main growers there were other grows taking place an others growers involved with them .Sams in my opinion was not a big part as some think an from what i understand/was told he wasnt around as much as some may think .
It was not revealed in the article because ,the only j is the one i made of to tell the story of one of the 3 brothers from New jersey
I was telling my story not Sams ,this came up in discussion an debate from hempy an the answer is obvious for many but impossible for others to comprehend
He is not new to the story ,he has been in the Cruz before haze he is till in the Cruz an he will be in our most coveted stash for eternity .Ht article below speaks about him with a fairy tale twist ,conicedince ???or maybe im really a sick mother fucker who tells a good story an made all of this up
International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums - View Single Post - Vintage Cannabis photography
Hope i shed some light for ya ,I doubt it since all i did was repeat what ive said before an some of our other brothers who tried to help you an hempy comprehend
1luvbigherb
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bigherb
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Thats most appreciated
If anyone else had respect for Shanti an a fellow memeber this whole thread could get cleaned up
because we damn well know that no mediator or moderation will clean it
1luvbigherb
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JessE
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Big,
You had previously already told us that Sam Skunkman had nothing to do with your article, now it appears as if you're attributing G to Sam though there was never any mention of a G prior to your article.
So why are you saying we? When you had already told us Sam had nothing to do with your article?
I was hoping to save the discussion about Sam's role in all of this for later, but it seems you have simply skipped straight to the point.
Big it seems as if your stories just keeps evolving, what are any of us suppose to make of this?
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bigherb
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I havnt asked anyone to speak for me an in my opinion many of these fine fellas has voiced ther own opinion about the situation
You couldnt wait i said i had to get somthing off my chest even ,i said i wasnt home id rather not type a serious message on my phone i cant do access all the features i can at home .i hope that is okay with you
I wasnt gonna curse but you brought out the NYC in me ,Now im tight .From day one i said it was a promise .I dont make threats i tell you how it is .as ive always done from day one .
Go eat a dick ,Go fukk hempy, if you want an apology .Im sorry you have to fukk a man with no balls who is a tough guy on the net ,Im also sorry you have no brain an are 2 adults who are on a handicap child's level .
Are you serious ???These guys havnt gone public ,its not my position to reveal anything more
Yes asshole you cant access my source's ,i would never jepordize anyone Especially a man i Respect somone who is my hero .
Ive told you all i will ever believe it or not content or not .
I have my word an my balls an I dont brake them for no one
captain caveman
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mystery solved
i know who gave use the haze, yo. It was mother nature
i know who gave use the haze, yo. It was mother nature
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bigherb
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remember smart guy ,Im not a good typist an im pist an ive been typin another post I havnt looked to edit my post
Does this line make sense
We used j that makes no sense ,my j reference hasnothin to do with Sams an i Explinaed it all .which i think you may now understand
I was tryin to type why he used j
b0b_b1tch1n
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id like to see a new post created , and made a sticky , but at the same time only have it as your original article and maybe a few comments from yourself , then the haters could not ruin it
cleaning up this one is a lost cause because even if some or most of us edited our posts not everyone would unfortunately
as a wise man once said "Mediator where are you ? LMAO"
ive been wondering that for days
peace
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JessE
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Big,
First I simply will not stand for any threats, I will again ask you to please apologize.
Now lets back up for a second, you said you had something to get off your chest? Now that you have revealed Sam the Skunk Man in fact did have something to do with your article, can you tell us why you have lied to the entire community?
What this would mean is that once again Sam the Skunk Man has been caught red handed in pushing a different versions of events to his previous stories. The story continues to evolve, and it all seems to fall right back on Sam the Skunk Man's shoulders and it looks like his house of cards is crumbling.
It is a shame Bigherb has contributed in pushing this evolved story to thousands of readers across the world, but it has helped in the since that we can narrow down the x factor to all of the confusion surrounding haze to one central figure.
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b0b_b1tch1n
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shove it jerk , you have threatened me many times and not once said sorry , id say where but we arent alowed to mention it because its "private"
screw off hypocrite , take your b.s. with you
i hope big writes more articles and does them on things you have written about because he does a way better and far more accurate job
get lost loser
sorry big , jesse just makes me sick
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bigherb
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Sup brotherid like to see a new post created , and made a sticky , but at the same time only have it as your original article and maybe a few comments from yourself , then the haters could not ruin it
cleaning up this one is a lost cause because even if some or most of us edited our posts not everyone would unfortunately
as a wise man once said "Mediator where are you ? LMAO"
ive been wondering that for days
peace
Im always honest as you may ,know by now Im bad with the computer
Im not sure if i understand .Does a sticky only allow me to post ,because if not it would be the same shit .
Maybe soo a lost cause ,my ohaze thread a long while back for Sams got heated but things got on track .Might happen here
You brought me back
A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who
So stop with that childish shit, I'm grown
Please leave it alone - don't throw rocks at the throne
Do not bark up that tree, that tree will fall on you
I don't know why your advisors ain't forewarn you
1luvbigherb
b0b_b1tch1n
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a sticky just means it stays at the top of a forum/sub forum
you would need shanti or admini to have it locked and unlocked to give only you access to post
peace
you would need shanti or admini to have it locked and unlocked to give only you access to post
peace
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bigherb
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LMAO your an ignorant arrogant asshole ,apologize to you
you got the wrong guy Go Fukk ya mother after you Fukk Hempy ,I wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire .You think im gonna apologize ,You guys head are above the clouds .Bring that BS Round here an see where you end up
You are one stupid mother fukker ,I just told you it was a typo i wrote that last post wrong an it didnt make sense anyway is that what you made of it .
Sams has not added anything to my article ,he had no part in anypart of it .I just spoke of what i knew about him an the story i was told .I never said he had anything to do with my article
its like talking to Hempy all over again
makes no damn sense how do you figure that implies i am sayin he helped write my article ??? His reference to J all these years as you say was him being a brother one of the main growers .
My reference to j was an intial i made up to cover the indentity of one of the 3 brothers from new jersey who brokered the haze
Im not repeating myself again an again,if you have somthing to add go ahead if not knockyourself out
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